Satanic child abuse beyond belief.

originally posted by: erikthegreen
a reply to: Noinden

Dude you and greggers are the only ones backing the pedos....

Please do not accuse me of "backing pedos."

Pedophiles are vile monsters and should be banished from society. The damage done by pedophiles to their victims is life altering and catastrophic.

So no, I do not "back pedos." I hate them, with every fiber of my being.

I do, however, find there to be NO CONVINCING EVIDENCE that Satanists have risen into the highest positions of global power and are currently part of a clandestine circle of ritualistic child abuse.

We are debating the merits of THIS PARTICULAR CASE, not whether PEDOPHILIA is abominable. Get a grip.

a reply to: Greggers

Apparently if you are not joining the band waggon/Lynch mob, you are part of the problem .... oh wait that is a logical fallacy right there

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: erikthegreen

No try again. WE are backing that there is no evidence the Satanist are doing it.

I'm betting he knows exactly what we're arguing, but has resorted to this nonsense as the debate equivalent of flipping us the middle finger.

He's the second person in this thread who has accused us of being "evil" because we find the evidence unconvincing.

And see, this is a huge problem... It is exactly this mentality that caused witches to be burned in Salem.

a reply to: Greggers

Its the whole argument from a logical fallacy. The Maud Flanders "who will think of the children" response to something, that is in this case not proven to be real. ATS seems to be full of people, who don't understand logic.

a reply to: Greggers

It is exactly this mentality that caused witches to be burned in Salem.

Actually, if you go into the background of the Salem Trials, you will find it was politically motivated at the local level. So it does have some relevance here.

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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Greggers

It is exactly this mentality that caused witches to be burned in Salem.

Actually, if you go into the background of the Salem Trials, you will find it was politically motivated at the local level. So it does have some relevance here.

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While that may be true, I don't think the people in this thread are politically motivated--or if they are, it's subconscious. I think they REALLY, TRULY believe the DEBIL is running the country and raping babies.

Either way, it's the runaway train of paranoia and fear that allows atrocities like the Salem witch trials to happen in the first place.

a reply to: pheonix358

So was the burning of "witches" in the middle ages and renascence, to some extent so was teh whole Satanic Panic

a reply to: elementalgrove

Well, I figure if the people find out we're dealing with Satanists, and then they find out about the chimera monsters that they've created in secret underground bases.. yeah, people would probably lose their #. I've seen one of the creatures, mixture of a human and two animals.. disgusting evil looking thing. True abomination, true story.

Look into the Franklin cover up.. the lid on this thing has already been partially lifted, the UK paedophile scandal, the Vatican, Hollywood.. this is MK-Ultra stuff, if the lid on this thing comes completely off it's gonna lead straight to MK-Ultra and mind control programs.. and from there there'll be calls to uncover all the secret things they've been up to. People will be livid.. won't stand for it.

That is what they fear, that is what needs to happen.. But I just don't know if it will, is it too big? And yet I also think it will.. eventually. The truth movement will continue to grow..

You are all doing a great service to humanity in speaking up about these truths continually on a frequent basis. There's enough evidence to bury these sons of bitches. We can do it!

In Norway there was a recent bust of a whole swatch of the elite involved in, you guessed it, ritual child sexual abuse.

It's started, and soon there'll be no where left for them to hide in the dark, and it's too late for them to step forward as "leaders" so they're screwed now and their magic probably doesn't even work anymore or certainly not as expected.

Keep the pressure on people, which might help generate the space for the FBI to launch an investigation that won't exclude or try to run interference for anyone no matter what their position in "society".

a reply to: DeadMoonJester

You are all doing a great service to humanity in speaking up about these truths continually on a frequent basis. There's enough evidence to bury these sons of bitches. We can do it!

A bow and salute many blessings to these two brave people!!Why can't more be like them!!
Nearly 400 children rescued and 348 adults arrested in Canadian child pornography bust

Toronto Police Service Detective Constable Lisa Belanger (L) and Inspector Joanna Beaven-Desjardins of the Toronto Police Service Sex Crimes Unit

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
In Norway there was a recent bust of a whole swatch of the elite involved in, you guessed it, ritual child sexual abuse.

It's started, and soon there'll be no where left for them to hide in the dark, and it's too late for them to step forward as "leaders" so they're screwed now and their magic probably doesn't even work anymore or certainly not as expected.

Keep the pressure on people, which might help generate the space for the FBI to launch an investigation that won't exclude or try to run interference for anyone no matter what their position in "society".

I am with you!

People have done it, won against all odds! Faced with such power, people involved with the world's top elite they need to be brave as it is seriously dangerous! if no one shows they care and speak up we leave them alone in the dark!

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Greggers

It is exactly this mentality that caused witches to be burned in Salem.

Actually, if you go into the background of the Salem Trials, you will find it was politically motivated at the local level. So it does have some relevance here.
P

While that may be true, I don't think the people in this thread are politically motivated--or if they are, it's subconscious. I think they REALLY, TRULY believe the DEBIL is running the country and raping babies.

Either way, it's the runaway train of paranoia and fear that allows atrocities like the Salem witch trials to happen in the first place.

PARANOIA?
How many said that to these women who cracked probably a tiny part of this ring? The big boys have been untouchable but they have made themselves rich while enjoying their filthy fun and destroying innocents!!
please look there are many many more

Nearly 400 children rescued and 348 adults arrested in Canadian child pornography bust

www.nbcnews.com...
or this one?

An Internet pedophile ring with up to 70,000 members — thought to be the world's largest —has been uncovered by police, a security official said Wednesday.

www.nbcnews.com...
PLEASE LOOK!!

Norwegian police have filed charges against 51 people suspected of various kinds of abuse of children including babies. Even the future abuse of yet unborn children was discussed in the country's largest ever pedophile ring.

A total of 150 terabytes of data, including photos, videos and chat transcripts was seized in an operation codenamed "Dark Room," which was the largest operation of its kind carried out in Norway. The seized data shows, among other things, toddlers being penetrated, children being tied up, children having sex with animals and children having sex with other children.
Read more: sputniknews.com...

Scotland

77 suspected paedophiles held as police find 30 MILLION abuse images: Children as young as three among 500 victims of extortion and rape
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BUSTED: 239 Pimps Arrested and 80 Children Rescued in Massive Child Sex Trafficking Raids

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Worldwide, the human trafficking industry is worth some $150 billion a year, according to the International Labour Organization.

www.reuters.com...

FBI Busts Sex Trafficking Ring, Rescues 149 Children, Arrests 150 Pimps

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A 10-month operation by an Australian police anti-pedophile taskforce put an end to a global ‘dark net’ of child abusers that had 45,000 members.

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a reply to: Char-Lee

People have done it, won against all odds! Faced with such power, people involved with the world's top elite they need to be brave as it is seriously dangerous! if no one shows they care and speak up we leave them alone in the dark!

I think that they have gotten away with it for so long that they actually believe they are immune. From the Catholic Church, to the supposed Franklin scandal hoax involving Boys Town, it looks like a repeat.

With enough power and money, they can buy a lot of silence and turned heads.

a reply to: Char-Lee

My father came out as MPD (multiple personality disorder) in 91. He and his shrink cooked up a load of ritual satanic nonsense from regression hypnosis sessions. Apparently -- dad had 20+ distinct personalities, who were conjured up to protect him from my grandparents, who were the ringleaders of a vast network of ritualistic Satan loving child sex / murder hobos.

Except it was all nonsense. Every single last bit of it. How do I know? Because they were my grandparents: the people I spent my summers with growing up.

Of course, his shrink was selling a book. He was also part of the infamous Redondo Beach Day Care case that ran a handful of innocent people through the Salem Witch routine before it was proven to be a HOAX.

Yes, there are real bad guys in this world. Some of them like to have sex with children. They are awful people and they must be fought.

You know who is worse? The "good people" of Salem, who burned a dozen men and women to death behind delusional fantasies of gods and devils and other forms of mental illness.

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

very real networks involved in this...

An Internet pedophile ring with up to 70,000 members — thought to be the world's largest —has been uncovered by police, a security official said Wednesday.

sorry about your Pa

but it doesn't mean every story is a hoax

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Char-Lee



I would believe this much, much more if the 80's and 90's weren't rife with hoaxes relating to satanic ritual abuse. It was the "child sex predator" of the day, with all manner of innocent people being rounded up by over exhuberant detectives.



This whole satanic thing is mass hysteria. Until evidence proves otherwise.

You believe exactly what msm wants you to believe---that such things couldn't possibly happen and be covered up by those doing these deeds. I hope your belief gets you through if one of your loved ones should become a victim.

There was plenty of evidence but newspapers and tv reporters were "cautioned" to "avoid" mentioning what they had discovered and investigators were threatened if they did any full exposure.

originally posted by: Char-Lee
How many said that to these women who cracked probably a tiny part of this ring?

How many?

I bet they actually had proof of actual crimes being committed. That helps.

ETA: They are actual detectives and not just people pointing at coinkidinks.

Unfortunately those that commit these crimes are often the same people that control the law courts so its difficult to sentence the culprits for the horendous acts they have commiitted against innocent children. But I am happy she is free from it now.

Thanks for sharing. Only way to stop these crimes is to make them known to greater pulic.

a reply to: Char-Lee

Excellent work, now if only we can bust these elite criminals and paedophiles.. they deserve death sentences for the stuff they put children through.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: Char-Lee

People have done it, won against all odds! Faced with such power, people involved with the world's top elite they need to be brave as it is seriously dangerous! if no one shows they care and speak up we leave them alone in the dark!

I think that they have gotten away with it for so long that they actually believe they are immune. From the Catholic Church, to the supposed Franklin scandal hoax involving Boys Town, it looks like a repeat.

With enough power and money, they can buy a lot of silence and turned heads.

Exactly my own conclusion, they have felt not only safe but with the control of judges and the protection of FBI and Senators and probably the secretary of state among others they truly have been safe and will probably still continue to be safe. The child in the video said that even President bush gave money to the host and left with a teen boy, I have less reason to doubt that then not.