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Feminism now targeting: Mansplaining

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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Dark Ghost

A hotline for women to talk to someone about men "talking down" to them at work.

Just curious - - are you saying its not a problem?


Guess what? Guys get talked down to at work, too. Arrogance isn't a gender-specific trait.


It helps if you get Equal Pay.


Ah, so there's a dollar value on your ability to swallow the behavior of assholes? Interesting, but doesn't that really curtail the ideology of non-merit based equality and dignity?


It was a bit of a joke.

Money helps sooth the pain.




posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Annee

I wouldn't know. Female licensed professional engineers are paid more than their male counterparts.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Annee

I wouldn't know. Female licensed professional engineers are paid more than their male counterparts.


Can you prove that?

I'm sure its getting better for women with degrees in trained professions.

Women from my generation simply had no recourse. But, women today do. And they're not gonna keep their mouth's shut.

But, there's still the issue in other type jobs. I mean, how many times has Walmart been sued for gender inequality.


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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Annee

I wouldn't know. Female licensed professional engineers are paid more than their male counterparts.


Well duh, supply and demand.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Aside from being a project manager who works with staff and project financials? No, I can't. I can only tell you that if you work in engineering and have government contracts, women and minorities are "must hires" and see a tremendous amount of competition among perspective employers, all trying to sign them to their companies.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy
Yeah, feelings, nothing more than...feeeeelings.

Don't like the snark? Don't ask stupid questions.

Just kidding ladies and gents!

The thing about all this crap is who determines what is "mansplaining"?

There can be no civil discourse with all this BS floating around between the sexes.

It's like the fems want men on the defensive at all times around them.

Check out Stefan's take on it.

7 mins. Language alert! maybe.



Dare I say it? That's mansplaining.

Maybe it worked like that long ago, but it doesn't anymore. We know from brain scans men and woman are not distinguishable. There's so much overlap. If all we saw were brain scans, we'd not see gender.

The reality is any psychological differences we perceive are mostly social in nature. We learned them. Girls were taught to be girls. Boys were taught to be boys. Prejudices abound, as a result, since they're deeply ingrained in us from an early age. We're wandering in a fog, blindly attacking unseen enemies only existing in our psychology..

Make no mistake, in the modern age we've destroyed many of these psychological differences and prejudices. There's no going back because once we taste freedom we won't let go.

Soon lesbians and homosexuals will be having children. Children will have many-parents and even apps and AI-friends who teach them. Many things are going to change. And we'll have to change along with it. Why? Because we want freedom and once we have it we won't let go.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Annee

Aside from being a project manager who works with staff and project financials? No, I can't. I can only tell you that if you work in engineering and have government contracts, women and minorities are "must hires" and see a tremendous amount of competition among perspective employers, all trying to sign them to their companies.


I do find it sad that law has to intervene to force Equality, but it does - - - hopefully, someday that won't be the case.

Both my daughter's get equal pay. One is a producer - so she negotiates hers. The other drives one of those humongous trucks in a gold mine. While she does get equal pay, the harassment from men was so out of control - - "biggy wigs" had to step in.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: Dark Ghost

DISTRESSED victims of “mansplaining” in the workplace can now report it to a dedicated union hotline.

Swedish women who believe they have fallen to victim to instances of sexist male colleagues explaining things to them in a sarcastic way are being offered advice and support.

Unionen, which represents 600,000 private sector workers, has set the advice line up in a bid to stamp out the scourge of what has been dubbed “mansplaining”.

The hotline will be manned by feminist politicians, comedians and scientists. They will advise angry women what action to take next, The Local reports.

But Swedish men were not amused, taking to the union’s Facebook page to complain about what they called a “sexist” and polarising campaign.

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Surely this is taking things a little too far? Where does this lead and what good can come of this?
The problem I have is not with calling out arrogant or condescending men. My problem is that there is now no word in social justice, nor recognition for when women are 'splaining to men. I've experienced this myself countless times in the work place or classroom, a woman talking down to me or at me as a male, even when they are in the wrong. Also, mansplaining is now being abused, where instead of it just being about stopping sexist condescension, it's now used frequently by sjws to shut down a man who merely disagrees with a woman. I hate this bull. This is exactly what is making many people including liberals become alienated by social justice.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

I like it when women wield swords in thongs.. that is the woman I cherish.

I only like women that are truly strong, the ones that fight dragons and demons without flinching.

These feminist women are not real women, they are not even truly human.. they are the very opposite of strong: they make weakness a virtue and if it weren't for the rest of society they would waste away wallowing in their own self-pity.

They have no drive and no individual animating force within themselves. They are empty husks. Indeed, many have even speculated that feminists may be nothing but biological robots and that they may not even have souls. Russian and Chinese scientists free from the politically correct stranglehold of Western academia have studied this exact question for quite some time now.

We await the results with interest and distant optimism. This may be the discovery that will let us diagnose feminists with even further disorders.

At its most fundamental level we are looking at a disorder of the soul here. This is why I always say that feminists are not even truly human.

Still we must treat them with at least the same respect that we would treat our animals. Just because their personality will wither away and never be born again doesn't mean that we can treat them inhumane. Just because they never had or never will have any chance to develop their character or their intellect doesn't mean they deserve to be discriminated against.

We must remain true to our morals but still condemn the demonic not only with all of our strength but also with all of our integrity remaining intact.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:32 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Annee

I wouldn't know. Female licensed professional engineers are paid more than their male counterparts.


Can you prove that?

I'm sure its getting better for women with degrees in trained professions.

Women from my generation simply had no recourse. But, women today do. And they're not gonna keep their mouth's shut.

But, there's still the issue in other type jobs. I mean, how many times has Walmart been sued for gender inequality.



Engineer is kind of a funky field. Especially the technical side.

The thing is an Engineer can be paid 50k differences just based on the company they work for for the exact same Engineer. Companies tend to try to higher diversely when they're at the top to avoid criticisms and so while it's ironic the field is dominated by men, women do make it to top positions over men for the exact same 'fields'. These positions would still be equivalent for men that held the job in the company, it's just interesting that women thrive in the business environment and parts of that poor into the Engineering field itself because of how much competition there is.


If you were to look at less crazy, less technical, more traditional Engineering fields, like architecture, I would actually bet there is still sexism, between harassment and equal pay, opportunity etc.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: DeadMoonJester

Don't use such a broad sweeping brush against "feminists".

First and second wave feminism accomplished great things, and worked hard to empower women.

It's the recent phenomenon of third wave feminism that is the problem. Instead of lifting up and empowering women, it uses a cult like mentality to push young women down into a state-of-belief in never ending victimhood by using propaganda and blatant distortions of reality.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: jonnywhite

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
The reality is any psychological differences we perceive are mostly social in nature. We learned them. Girls were taught to be girls. Boys were taught to be boys. Prejudices abound, as a result, since they're deeply ingrained in us from an early age. We're wandering in a fog, blindly attacking unseen enemies only existing in our psychology..


Looool. No. There are HUGE differences in natural behavior between boys and girls. I know this for a fact because I've been on unnaturally high doses of synthetic testosterone before.

Testosterone very noticeably changes the way you think, your ability to think, and your behaviors, interests, and hobbies. It does this within just 2-3 days of being on high doses.

I can't believe what you're writing. It's just so ridiculous that I can't believe that you believe it. I bet you actually don't.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Annee

I can only tell you that if you work in engineering and have government contracts, women and minorities are "must hires" and see a tremendous amount of competition among perspective employers, all trying to sign them to their companies.


If you're anyone that's 'good' minorities are 'must haves'(including Canadians) because most Americans just aren't as good. That's the truth.

Sorry that your Government contacts sound the opposite.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: redmage

You think talking about the no soul hypothesis may be a little too enthusiastic because we have no proof? It lacks merit?

I get your thinking. Maybe you are right. Maybe we should focus less on the no soul hypothesis and more on the more down to earth disorders..



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Annee

I wouldn't know. Female licensed professional engineers are paid more than their male counterparts.


Can you prove that?

I'm sure its getting better for women with degrees in trained professions.

Women from my generation simply had no recourse. But, women today do. And they're not gonna keep their mouth's shut.

But, there's still the issue in other type jobs. I mean, how many times has Walmart been sued for gender inequality.



It's much easier for women than it is for men to get into engineering schools, to get engineering jobs, and to get promoted in engineering. Same thing for programming.

The field is dominated by men because most women simply don't want to be engineers or programmers. It's very possible that there's an aptitude component as well; there are many more men with high IQs than there are women with high IQs (also many more retarded men than retarded women). This isn't a belief. This is a fact.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: RedDragon
there are many more men with high IQs than there are women with high IQs (also many more retarded men than retarded women). This isn't a belief. This is a fact.


Another fact is that they have lass variability, meaning all huge idiots are men. Not simply 'more'.

The conception you're basing this off of is also only 5 points, and also stopped trending in 2012.

It really takes some kind of special to compare 5 IQ points, be it at 155-160 or 95-100.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: imjack

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Annee

I can only tell you that if you work in engineering and have government contracts, women and minorities are "must hires" and see a tremendous amount of competition among perspective employers, all trying to sign them to their companies.


If you're anyone that's 'good' minorities are 'must haves'(including Canadians) because most Americans just aren't as good. That's the truth.

Sorry that your Government contacts sound the opposite.


Next time you visit a corporate HQ, notice that a huge amount of the security guards are African American. They do this because they desperately try to hire minorities as hard as they can.

Even trying to blatantly discriminate in favor of minorities, there still simply aren't enough even reasonably unqualified applicants. You can be unqualified trying to find an engineering or programming type job in a large company and still be shoed in for hire if you're a minority. There are numerous legal advantages for discriminating in favor of minorities.

Since they still can't get enough minority engineers and programmers no matter how hard they try, they have to bump up their minority hire numbers by filling up expendable positions that anyone off the street can do: security work, HR, etc. Walk into a corporate HQ, especially a government contractor's HQ, and it's impossible not to notice this.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: imjack

originally posted by: RedDragon
there are many more men with high IQs than there are women with high IQs (also many more retarded men than retarded women). This isn't a belief. This is a fact.


Another fact is that they have lass variability, meaning all huge idiots are men. Not simply 'more'.

The conception you're basing this off of is also only 5 points, and also stopped trending in 2012.

It really takes some kind of special to compare 5 IQ points, be it at 155-160 or 95-100.


5 points isn't a measure of standard deviation.. I mean this doesn't actually mean anything. Are you saying that the delta of standard deviations between men and women is 5 IQ points? What you're saying doesn't make any sense. ??

Of course women have less variability in IQ. That was the entire point.

Even though men's IQs are only ~2 points higher on average, men have a larger standard deviation. That means that more women are clustered around the average than men. It also means that there are more men at both extremes, low and high.

So, if you're going to look at occupations that trend to include the upper end of the right side of the bell curve, of course men would naturally outnumber women. You find the same patterns when you look at things correlated with the left end of the bell curve. Notice how many more autistic men there are than women, for example.

It's just common sense. Women are XX and men are XY. Women have more genetic material than men do. That means that women have a higher chance of containing a dominant gene for a specific trait. Dominant genes by definition usually cause average expressions of a trait. By definition, the average is the most expressed version of a trait and the most expressed versions of a trait are by definition dominant..

So, obviously, that extra genetic material usually brings up the IQ of what would have been mentally retarded if they were men and brings down the IQ of of what would have been a genius if they were men.

You can't really dispute this. It's just pure logic. It's common sense.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: DeadMoonJester

No no, the "no soul hypothesis" may be the case when it comes to third wave feminism.

I simply think it's a good idea to make that "third wave" distinction.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: RedDragon

I'm specifically referencing that he says they're 'forced' to higher minorities and you say they 'can't get them', however their performance is always above average.

The framework of how you guys say it almost sounds racist. What's the issue? In our Company the Engineers are Indian and Iranian because America physics scores are low, and so are graduate rates, and people that live here are idiots.

Like I said before, even the damned Canadians are better hires than America Engineers, and you're trying to convince me the security is black out of desire for minority hire?

Don't be delusional. They hire black people to do security for the same reason they hire Indians to build software. They're better at it.
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