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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: Boadicea
I think that she even attacked infowars and Alex Jones at one point.
The labeling and associations that go with the labels used to work for the most part.
I think that is how the left found a place but Trump kind of knocked that wall down or at the least put a big crack in it . Our last election that went to a liberal majority might just be the last time the main stream parties rule . Canada is usually a few years behind the states so one can hope .
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Boadicea
There's already some threads on this that go into detail.
Breitbart seems to be the self proclaimed home of the alt right.
NPI’s moves come from a well-worn playbook. “The alt-right is just a rebranding of white supremacism for the digital age,” says Mark Potok, senior fellow at SPLC.
Here’s how it works: First, get a likable, accessible frontman. “There’s been a major effort for the last 30 years to make the radical right more respectable, and Spencer is a part of that tradition,” says Potok. Another example would be the KKK’s David Duke, who famously encouraged Klansmen to get “out of the cow pasture and into the hotel meeting room.”
The comparison tracks. NPI held an official press conference in a hotel meeting room just last month. Spencer is polite and square-jawed, with a neat high-and-tight haircut. He doesn’t sneer or curse, and he pitches big ideas about the future—like NPI becoming the alt-right equivalent of the Heritage Foundation, a lynchpin of mainstream conservative thought. “I’m very optimistic about the future of our movement,” he says. “The Heritage Foundation has big physical buildings and scholars, but if you measure dollars to impact, it’s shockingly low. The alt-right’s is shockingly high. It’s low-end disruption.” Very Silicon Valley.
Step two: Clad yourself in the trappings of academia. “People have always tried to give an intellectual foundation to euronationalism,” says Brian Levin, director of CSU San Bernardino’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism. Remember phrenology, the bogus science of studying the size and shape of someone’s skull as a predictor of intelligence and character? And how it was really just a bunch of racists poking at people’s heads? Same idea.
Package your most controversial ideas in pseudo-academic arguments, using ornate, polysyllabic, racial-slur free language. It makes people more willing to hear it. And if you do so on a bland website—as NPI has—so much the better. “The ruling, non-discriminatory ideology, that we’ll be a little stronger for the more piquancy of the sauce, is a suicidal ideology,” Spencer says. “The races are not equivalent or interchangeable. The prevailing ideology is one that will lead to the ultimate dispossession of my people and my culture.”
The active version of recruitment is a bit more assertive. Like most of the alt-right, Spencer is very Internet-savvy. He knows that most of his target audience isn’t going to sit down with a tome on the “biological reality of race,” one of Spencer’s recurring phrases. That’s why he has a Twitter account and runs sites like AlternativeRight.com to deliver his ideology in bite-sized chunks. “It only takes a few influencers to make these things take off,” Potok says. “There’s been a major effort from people like Richard Spencer to push out memes like Pepe the Frog or #whitegenocide.”
And the cycle perpetuates. You start seeing posts using Pepe (who has recently joined the swastika and the burning cross on the Anti-Defamation League’s list of hate symbols) or #whitegenocide, and you do some Googling. If you keep at it, you’ll get to articles written by people like the New Century Foundation’s Taylor. “It’s how they downplay how extreme they are,” Gerstenfeld says. “Most people who get interested in these groups aren’t drawn in by the rhetoric. They work their way there slowly.” So while not everyone shouting about cucks on Twitter is a Richard Spencer in the making, a proportion of them probably are.
These guys are literally trying to rewrite conservatism in their image and they are doing it right under the moderates' noses by getting them to defend their least racially insensitive talking points.
And the people in denial saying this is a left wing creation know this is true. That's why they are in denial. They SEE the ugly side and don't want to admit that they belong to it. Thus it becomes a liberal conspiracy. But the problem is that they are enabling it by denying it.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
The alt-right phrase was used as a pejorative, and piece of ad hominem, against Trump and his supporters. There is no actual group of the alt-right, by the fact that they have no leader, no meetings, no membership process, no common cause, no common ideology, nothing in common besides that they supported Donald Trump.
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
The alt-right is not a fabrication.
Racist organizations proudly brandish the label.
The alt-right is the hidden faction that has been apart of the Republican party for a long time hidden in plain sight from the good non-racist Republicans.
The good natured fiscal conservatives didn't know for years there were wolves in sheep's clothing all around them. Trump allowed them to take their costumes off.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Boadicea
From what I understand it to be, it's like your OP says--a loose group of people with right-leaning idea(l)s that don't want to claim conformity with establishment Repubs or Conservatives.
And, much like what happened with/to the Tea Party movement, they (the mainstream media, far-left people/groups, and establishment parties) are trying to demean and destroy any legitimacy to the movement/group of people because it threatens the status quo.
Basically, the alt-right is a group of individuals who really don't feel like they have a home in the main two political parties. I have found my home (generally) in libertarian ideals, but many are nervous about attaching themselves to that moniker because it, too, has been trivialized by the three groups that I've already mentioned.
Right now, the alt-right is a life boat for people who have either abandoned the ship of fools (establishment politics) or were forced to walk the plank because of changing ideologies, and they're adrift in a sea of insults awaiting a rescue vessel. Yes, there are all kinds of people on this life boat--white-nationalist/supremacist types included--but they are not one general group with a set ideology, and to treat them as such only serves to denigrate the group to keep the status quo seemingly more legitimate as an option (which it's increasingly becoming apparent that it's not a legit option anymore).
My take on it, anyhow.