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Aluminum: New factor in the decline of bee populations?

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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: network dude



The ectoparasitic honey bee mite Varroa destructor was originally confined to the Eastern honey bee Apis cerana. After a shift to the new host Apis mellifera during the first half of the last century, the parasite dispersed world wide and is currently considered the major threat for apiculture.


As for its spreading , i remember 60 minutes segment years ago saying that the right weather conditions and a large enough swarm and they could get from NZ to Australia . Thats a long way for a bee .




posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: concernedUScitizen

why can't they be contrails?

did you see the link and explanation I offered a few posts up?



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 09:12 AM
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In a World without bees, Monsanto is god.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: elementalgrove

elementalgrove, I do not mean to hijack your thread, I think it's a very good discussion to have.

Let me know if you think I am out of line here. I have been trying not to be so aggressive on this topic.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: network dude



The ectoparasitic honey bee mite Varroa destructor was originally confined to the Eastern honey bee Apis cerana. After a shift to the new host Apis mellifera during the first half of the last century, the parasite dispersed world wide and is currently considered the major threat for apiculture.


As for its spreading , i remember 60 minutes segment years ago saying that the right weather conditions and a large enough swarm and they could get from NZ to Australia . Thats a long way for a bee .


I'm about to ask a loaded question here, but is there any chemical remedy that can kill this mite and not harm the environment, or cause some other catastrophe? If we caused the mite, we need to find out how and stop it. If it was just nature, then our intervention might cause some other unforeseen damage. It's not an easy thing to fix or even identify.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: network dude

It is all in the wiki link in my first reply , Yes they are getting there but i guess they have to be careful , think cane toads in Australia .



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 09:21 AM
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I would like to thank you and all the other contributors to this thread who are causing me to question my previous notions about the nature of the contrails.

I am at the end of a long night and will be able to digest the information shared. It seems that the contrails that are persistent have been happening for a long time and this has been verified in numerous ways.

To use NASA as a source for contrail science does not sway me to much, NASA seems to be at the core of a myriad of cover ups, but those are all off topic.

However I do not doubt your due diligence and informed opinion and will give weight to that on its own merit based on your well formed opinion.

Hutch, Inhale Exhale, Box of Rain I appreciate your input.

Concerned citizen, Vinyl Tryant I appreciate yours as well, I look forward to going through this thread tomorrow evening.

to engaging in differing points of view and maintaining respect and cordiality as we do so!

Enjoy your mornings!
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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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in relation to NASA being used as a source, I get this a lot. If you can show me where the information is wrong, I will chastise them and never EVER use their source again, but if you can't refute it, and all the facts point to that being the truth, how can you dismiss it out of hand?

If the Devil tells you the sky is blue, is the sky still blue?



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 10:26 AM
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that was an example of that laziness I mentioned earlier. Just checked out the link. It seems there is a cure for this, but it's labor intensive. I recently acquired a small farm and it has 4 hives with 1 active hive on it. I am discussing with the previous owner weather I keep them and get into this hobby, or he takes them somewhere else. It's something that might be very cool to learn about first hand. Thanks for the info.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: elementalgrove

How come you ignore this from the paper?


Human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels resulting in ‘acid rain’, intensive agriculture producing acid sulphate soils and the mining of aluminium ores to make aluminium metal and salts have all contributed to the burgeoning biological availability of this non-essential metal



And instead make up your own explanation blaming chemtrails?




Couldnt it be both?



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:00 PM
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It's most revealing when we judge our effect on the environment by the health and proliferation (or lack thereof) of the world's most vulnerable species. Bees are one of those populations, they're highly sensitive to changes in their ecosystem. The same goes for species like frogs and other aquatic things; super-sensitive to PH levels and the like.

When all our rivers, lakes and oceans are totally devoid of life, then we'll really know we f*cked up majorly.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 04:14 PM
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No.

High aluminium levels in soil is an issue in places where seeing any sort of aerial trail is extremely rare..

www.agric.wa.gov.au...

You will almost certainly find that bees in places with dry and high acidity soils will have high levels of aluminium in them..



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 05:12 PM
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TPTB want to enslave humanity by turning us into robots.

In typical problem, reaction, solution, style they concocted a plan to deliberately poison the bees via chemtrails in a slow and realistic fashion.

the solution is robotic bees that save the day and the human race's undying trust and faith in robots is cemented whilst we get tricked into believing that nature or god let us down and that we somehow outgrew her/him.

the end.

of humanity.

now I'm going to go and finish that bong.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 06:22 PM
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Al is used in jet fuels for lubrication. Al could have built up over a long period of time. It would be interesting to see if the skyrocketing Alzheimer's cases coincide with the decline in the bee population.




Aluminium borohydride, also known as aluminium tetrahydroborate, (in American English, aluminum borohydride and aluminum tetrahydroborate, respectively) is the chemical compound with the formula Al(BH4)3. It is a volatile pyrophoric liquid which is used as rocket fuel, and as a reducing agent in laboratories. Unlike most other metal–borohydrides, which are ionic structures, aluminium borohydride is a covalent compound.


Aluminum borohydride is used in rocket fuels and added to some jet fuels apparently. Here is the Wiki.

Aluminum Borohydride and Mixtures with Hydrocarbons in Jet Engine Combustor Ignition


Could it have been added to replace lead in fuels?
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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: elementalgrove

If you want to know why bees are disapearing take a good long hard look at this fellow .



en.wikipedia.org...


That mite is a problem but is only responsible for a small percentage of the bees dying. The companies making chemical sprays try to steer us to look at that mite to keep us thinking it is not them.

Aluminum is an abundant chemical in the earths crust and is not too much of a problem unless it is in an active form. The form causing the problem is active. But it also is just a small part of the problem. Pesticides and herbicides and other man made chemistry is the biggest problem.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 02:23 AM
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Near extinction of real bees could not happen so quick unless the auli is from checmtrails. Not sure how its been done but I would not be suprised if it was planed and intentional.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:51 AM
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originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: elementalgrove

Near extinction of real bees could not happen so quick unless the auli is from checmtrails. Not sure how its been done but I would not be suprised if it was planed and intentional.



how exactly do you arrive at that conclusion?



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 06:53 AM
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So what's the point? Why would they be spraying aluminum?



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: elementalgrove

Near extinction of real bees could not happen so quick unless the auli is from checmtrails. Not sure how its been done but I would not be suprised if it was planed and intentional.



If they wanted to kill off an insect, it would be better to spray closer to the ground, as they do now for insect spraying.

If they are doing the spraying at the 7-mile altitude that we see contrails (what some people call "chemtrails"), then it would be far more difficult to target bees because particulates that high up would remain aloft for hundreds or even thousands of miles before coming down towards the ground.

For example, due to the direction of the jet stream, if the contrails we see on the east coast of the U.S. were actually sprayed chemical "chemtrails", then those sprayed chemicals would not fall to the surface until somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 04:06 PM
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Al is used in jet fuels for lubrication. Al could have built up over a long period of time. It would be interesting to see if the skyrocketing Alzheimer's cases coincide with the decline in the bee population.


Bingo!

People are wondering what has changed in terms of flight and contrails over the last 20, 30 years, yet they keep forgeting the advancements in nanotechnology. Try aluminum nanopowder for increased combustion efficiency...for starters.

One thing to note is also the lack of regulations of particles smaller than 2.5 micrometres.

It`s easy to connect the dots here. Cost reduction and lack of regulations on such materials will always lead to the same conclusion. Abuse and overuse. But that just the first step into the contrail=chemtrail CT.




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