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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
As always great stuff.
Just a few things where my current status of stacks collides with yours:
1. Information is the oldest fabric of the universe, back then before the big bang happened there already was singularity and that is matter- and consciousness-less information. As I see it consciousness could have been formed before matter did which would imply it expanded and expands with atoms and stuff through the universe already containing lifeforms.
As potential, maybe but still existing. Point is it is older than us much older than us. Needs us a host is... wishful thinking.
2. There might very well be nuts and bolts crafts, lots of sightings leave behind metall relicts, then there is Roswell and other stories where military seems to have scavenged huge bits. NASA paintbrushing stuff before showing it to the public etc. nuts and bolts is not off the table.
3. Vallée himself was getting into the UFO business because he witnessed a retrograde satellite. He also stated more than once that he himself has metallic relicts. (Heard him say so on C2C) So to verify this "it is all just parasites/symbiotees playing tricks on our minds" with him doesn't work.
Besides he could be part of the disinformation campaign since he created this control-loop-meme which has gotten very powerful and he knows people who know, are experts on, distractions and smoke&mirrors.
I like him, I don't buy blindly.
If I would have to imagine a why, I would say because there is a certain galactic law forbidding them to interfere with civilisations unaware of their existence. Protecting us from occupation as long as less than 50% know.
4. It's obvious that it's more than one phenomenon. Cooperation between biological ET and informational aliens, possibly terrestrial in origin. Maybe, but still that wouldn't be surprising because to figure out long distance spacetravel you got to know what spacetime is made of we don't, they would have to. Which means they can detect our invisible co-earthlings, we're mostly unaware of.
We are all guilty to make our own experience the measure of reality but we are all equally prone to pick just what confirms our bias and neglect what challenges it.
So I believe it is much more complicated. More parties, misunderstood consciousness and technology beyond our comprehension. I couldn't rule anything out and I absolutely disagree with everyone saying they know.
Vallée doesn't know, I don't know, you don't know, BASSPLYR doesn't know, mirageman doesn't know, NASA doesn't know,...