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originally posted by: jabvista
a reply to: opethPA
This is mass hysteria. They are just going along....most of them don't even know why they are doing it. Living a simple life out in the country has sheltered me from a lot. I guess I underestimated how brain washed some Americans really are.
originally posted by: Christosterone
"Paging Sheriff Clarke"
Sincerely,
Department of Homeland Security
I should say this is horrible...
...but its just to be expected in a big city. If one cop looks at a person wrong people will show up in the PC forum here with pitchforks proclaiming them all brownshirts.
A scenario like this and all 50 of the animals should be arrested but sadly that wont happen.
Ill post follow up if its there but my guess is the same authors on Philly.com will blame everyone but the kids who did this..They will blame being ignored or marginalized or something similar vs just saying "a pack of an animals acted like a pack of animals
You can mock and ignore the underlying causes of this phenomenon, but it's far more practical and beneficial to make sure it doesn't happen to begin with. Much better than pointing fingers over hurt and dead bodies.
We can start with the toxins in our water supplies, specifically lead, which is known to negatively impact developing minds...
Or we could look into something that has changed consistent with the increase in violent tendencies among youth.
Lead use has been curtailed in society, not increased. Ergo, lead consumption is not a logical suspect.
What has changed is societal attitude towards youth. Constant coddling throughout formative years. An attempt to remove all consequences from actions. Prescribed drug use for children to maintain calm rather than discipline. Definition of 'child abuse' to include corporal punishment. Attempts to remove parental rights to promote social agendas. Family courts that are more responsive to financial gain for the lawyers than to the true best interests of the children.
You are correct that we need to determine the cause and fix it.
Just not that that cause must coincide with easily swallowed propaganda.
originally posted by: opethPA
Go Philly!!!
"Over 50 juveniles reportedly began attacking people in the area of 16th and Walnut streets around 6 p.m. Saturday night, leading to as many as eight injuries. NBC10 reports an off-duty police officer had the bone around his eye broken when the crowd turned on him while attempting to make arrests."
I should say this is horrible but its just to be expected in a big city. If one cop looks at a person wrong people will show up in the PC forum here with pitchforks proclaiming them all brownshirts.
A scenario like this and all 50 of the animals should be arrested but sadly that wont happen. Ill post follow up if its there but my guess is the same authors on Philly.com will blame everyone but the kids who did this..They will blame being ignored or marginalized or something similar vs just saying "a pack of an animals acted like a pack of animals
www.philly.com..."
One of the injured was an off duty police officer.
According to police, a smaller group of juveniles broke off from a large crowd and began attacking people in the area of 16th and Walnut streets around 6 p.m. Saturday night. Six people were injured.
Ergo, lead consumption is indeed a logical suspect...
All valid points, and very much appreciated.
I would suggest that the "easily swallowed propaganda" is coming from the city, state and federal officials who are trying to cover their own butts, who know this is a problem and that it happened on their watch and continue to let it happen and refuse to fix the problem.
Well, and those exploiting the situation for their own selfish purposes and agenda.
I can't make the statement that lead could not possibly be impacting the situation... but I do see it as a minor contribution at best.
While there are, as you say, older buildings contaminated with lead in the inner city...
...these buildings have been around for quite some time. Why would the lead suddenly be making such an impact now?
If we are thinking along social terms, the one thing that has shown marked increase in the inner cities during the last twenty years is desperation and poverty. These could easily be contributors to the causes I listed...
... and could be combated effectively by making the inner cities more attractive to business - creating more employment, and targeting them for first-stage infrastructure repair.
Vandalism is a major issue. If the infrastructure repairs were done primarily by local youth, allowing them to make some money by working for it for a change, would that also help discourage vandalism? People who have a vested stake in things typically have more respect for those things.
I find hope in the fact that four of Trump's major priorities are economic recovery, infrastructure repair, corruption prosecution, and inner city revitalization.
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: opethPA
Go Philly!!!
"Over 50 juveniles reportedly began attacking people in the area of 16th and Walnut streets around 6 p.m. Saturday night, leading to as many as eight injuries. NBC10 reports an off-duty police officer had the bone around his eye broken when the crowd turned on him while attempting to make arrests."
I should say this is horrible but its just to be expected in a big city. If one cop looks at a person wrong people will show up in the PC forum here with pitchforks proclaiming them all brownshirts.
A scenario like this and all 50 of the animals should be arrested but sadly that wont happen. Ill post follow up if its there but my guess is the same authors on Philly.com will blame everyone but the kids who did this..They will blame being ignored or marginalized or something similar vs just saying "a pack of an animals acted like a pack of animals
www.philly.com..."
What you quote is not in the article.
The only specifics are given is this:
One of the injured was an off duty police officer.
According to police, a smaller group of juveniles broke off from a large crowd and began attacking people in the area of 16th and Walnut streets around 6 p.m. Saturday night. Six people were injured.
It says nothing about 50 youths attacking people 'flash mob style'. The title of the article says 'flash mob', true, but there is nothing in the article that matches your quote. The author doesn't say how it was a 'flash bob' either.
I don't think we disagree necessarily.
It is not just buildings, but the underground water pipes throughout cities which contain and leech lead.
I think we can probably also agree that -- whether physical/environmental or mental/emotional or both -- garbage in, garbage out, and the inner-city population has been fed a whole lot of garbage for far too long. And, yes, I am including those who claim to want to "help."
I think that may be exactly the type of thing we need to focus on. Give people a stake, give them an opportunity, give them a purpose, give them security, give them a future to work for -- all of that also gives people genuine self-worth not only because they did accomplish something, but because they know they can build on that and expand on it and achieve even more in the future. Just as negativity feeds on itself, so does positivity feed on itself.
But the achievements have to be real for the value to be real. And the opportunities have to be real for the achievements to be real.
Hell -- just make Mike Rowe Secretary of Labor!!!