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--23 child pornography sites Ran by the /FBI/ in a bid to lure and catch online predators',

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posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:10 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



Not to be a stick in the mud, but are you part of Disinfo.com??

No, I will be looking them up though. Why do you ask?




posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:10 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

Thing is , are they arresting them or just identifying them for later investigation .



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:24 PM
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Official court documents

Fair WARNING, there are descriptions of certain aspects of the sites the FBI used for this operation.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: FraggleRock



Fair WARNING, there are descriptions of certain aspects of the sites the FBI used for this operation.


Thanks for the info, information is power, and freedom.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

Because I believe this forum is meant for questions to them, or announcements from them. The "Deconstructing Disinfo" forum is for dissecting the media kind of stuff.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Vector99

Thing is , are they arresting them or just identifying them for later investigation .

I hope both, I just hope they are using CGI and not actual child porn.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:37 PM
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Because I believe this forum is meant for questions to them, or announcements from them. The "Deconstructing Disinfo" forum is for dissecting the media kind of stuff.

I see.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: Vector99




Playpen had a total of 215,000 members. Operation Pacifier collected 1,300 unique IP addresses and led to 137 users charged, meaning, nearly 90 percent of those tracked were never charged with a crime nearly a year after the investigation concluded.


Sadly while looking into they are not as squeaky clean as the OP had me believing . While not posting images they allowed them to remain online .

thenextweb.com...



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 11:29 PM
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edit on 12-11-2016 by SPHARAOH because: Because sometimes i make mistakes.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 11:54 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Whatever they need to do to catch these scumbags. I say do it.

So putting up child porn, to catch people that like child porn is ok? WTF?


Yeah, that really doesn't sound right does it. The people putting it up probably need to view it to know if it is appropriate. WTF sounds just about right.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 12:39 AM
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a reply to: seasonal


If that's what it takes to catch predators, than maybe that's what they have to do. I might be misunderstanding though.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 12:49 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

What's the point of arresting people if they just go to court and get let off due to entrapment by the FBI. The FBI would have to have a viable reason that this was not entrapment.

I suspect that these were actually criminally run sites that the FBI didn't shut down immediately, in order to catch as many perpetrators as they could.

They may have proxied through FBI networks and have confiscated existing, running, servers to monitor the unencrypted communications at the server, rather than having to try and decrypt the data in-line.

edit on 13/11/2016 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 02:17 AM
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Personally I don't believe entrapment is right in any situation. Be it bait cars, pretending to be a young girl online, running fake sites etc..

The end don't usually justify the means imho

Of course there are exemptions but they are rare



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 03:57 AM
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listen guys, maybe someone already pointed this out....but havent we learned anything from the movies?

intelligence agencies know who most the people of interest are. They KNOW about human trafficking and do nothing about it, yet they want to go after some guys trading pictures? No....this is not about catching random pedos. I think there is something more going on.

I like what Jordan Maxwell said once about how the government allows criminal networks and gangs to operate even though they could shut them down anytime they want.

At what point does using something to catch someone become trafficking in that thing? Who decides where the line is? Oh, thats right, those with the badge and gun.....how convenient.

I'm sure there is a pragmatic element involved in keeping tabs on criminal activity without shutting it down so as to not force the rats to go deeper and darker, inventing new and improved methodology......but those of us not calloused by the daily exposure to the horrors of the world cannot help but view these kinds of tactics as being either dangerously close to an ethical moral line or already crossing it.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 04:02 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Vector99

Thing is , are they arresting them or just identifying them for later investigation .

I hope both, I just hope they are using CGI and not actual child porn.


Unless their budget is 10 million dollars and they hired ILM and the guys looking at said porn only have one good eye and just finished cutting onions...they are not using CGI porn. Exactly how easy do you think that would be to do convincingly and what animator would agree to do this?

Please use your common sense.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 04:12 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Vector99

Thing is , are they arresting them or just identifying them for later investigation .

I hope both, I just hope they are using CGI and not actual child porn.


Unless their budget is 10 million dollars and they hired ILM and the guys looking at said porn only have one good eye and just finished cutting onions...they are not using CGI porn. Exactly how easy do you think that would be to do convincingly and what animator would agree to do this?

Please use your common sense.

It's something I won't confirm personally. So that said I doubt they used CGI if they displayed actual content. I really think they probably used actual child porn with the thought of it being for a good cause. I hope to hell I'm wrong with that thought, but I doubt I am.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 09:16 AM
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It's something I won't confirm personally. So that said I doubt they used CGI if they displayed actual content. I really think they probably used actual child porn with the thought of it being for a good cause. I hope to hell I'm wrong with that thought, but I doubt I am.
a reply to: Vector99
I'm sure we will get all the info we can stomach in the very near future.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 09:30 AM
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Perhaps the FBI should have asked the mean old confused criminal to nicely just stop looking at bad pics.. Im sure the criminals would have listened because after all, its never their fault so why wouldnt they stop.

The world has bad people in it who often do bad things and sometimes you need to take certain steps to stop them.

Meanwhile in the real world, every hardcore waste of flesh criminal is begging that we just operate on the "good side" of the ethical meter ..



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 11:10 AM
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I saw this article as well and at first I had the same thought as others here.. however, after really thinking on it I feel that if I were a victim of child porn or human trafficking, Id okay the FBI to use my pictures or vid or whatever they needed to catch those that deal in it. I guess if they have the victims blessing, it is more than okay.

I work in victims services, advocacy and Amicus Curiae. I deal with victims of crime and we are forced to take what we call mental health rotations. On several months and off several months. Many of the victims and family members have our personal cell numbers, so youre never REALLY off.. but you get the idea. Dealing with this is rough. BUT I know for a fact... most would say use whatever you can to catch these guys and get as many as you can. Though we dont deal with child porn exclusively and handle all sorts of victims of all ages and sorts of violent crimes... the worst are involving children and even the "least" of the offenses against children result in life long effects to the victim and their families. Our biggest challenge in these times is internet crime.. our detectives and prosecutors have to deal with other jurisdictions and sometimes other countries trying to secure warrants and etc.. and all sorts of local and conflicting laws. Right now a pretty hairy case involving the app KIK is ongoing.. and the laws are so convoluted. These guys KNOW how to circumvent the law and how to play the game so even if they are caught.. they dont get what they deserve.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 11:12 AM
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That's not what happens. Read the document in this thread. They put up the site, and then members sign up and throw up their own collection of material to gain the capacity to download other stuff and/or gain rep.

There is no victim's blessing.




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