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originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: underwerks
No I'm not okay with people sneaking across the border purposefully dodging authorities proving they know what they're doing is not the correct way.
I have nothing against people wanting to come over, but there is a process.
When people sneak across that takes away from resources that could be allocated to getting the people who are trying to get in legally here.
Reward those who follow the protocol, simple as that.
So it's just about the rules. Gotcha.
Californians bear an enormous fiscal burden as a result of an illegal alien population estimated at almost 3 million residents. The annual expenditure of state and local tax dollars on services for that population is $25.3 billion. That total amounts to a yearly burden of about $2,370 for a household headed by a U.S. citizen.
Nearly half of those expenditures ($12.3 billion) result from the costs of K-12 education for the children of illegal aliens — both those illegally in the country and those born in the United States. Another major outlay ($2.1 billion) results from the need to provide supplemental English language instruction to Limited English Proficient students, many of whom are children of illegal aliens. Together, these educational costs are 57.1 percent of total expenditures.
Other fiscal outlays result from the costs of medical care ($4.0 billion), public assistance services ($800 million), administration of justice functions ($4.4 billion), and general governmental services ($1.6 billion).
Because some tax revenue is collected from the illegal alien population, we include an estimate of this revenue from sales, income, property and "sin" taxes. Yet, it should be kept in mind that the $3.5 billion in tax collections is not truly an offset to the fiscal costs, because similar, and likely greater, tax revenue would be collected if the same jobs were filled by legal workers.
originally posted by: visitedbythem
originally posted by: underwerks
Do illegal immigrants pay sales tax on everything they buy?
Yeah, just not what they steal. Im in Cali, and one of those idiots stole my Social Security number so they could work. Im glad I didnt have the government come after me at the end of the year and make me pay their taxes too. When I paid my hospital bill the ospital workers laughed and stated that my bill ($70,000) was so high, because illegals pay nothing at all and I have a job, am an American, they know where I live, and they need to get more from me to make up for the losses due to the Illegals using our services.
It just sounds like your statement is " Look! They pay a penny over here and a nickel over there, see they are helping by doing their share, now go pay 70 grand you lazy thoughtless racist American Nazi!"
originally posted by: JBRiddle
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
No there is not, both are guilty of the crime of being here without permission, which is a crime, if they are working under the table using fake documents, that is a crime as well.
A nation has limited resources, we can't even take care of our own people, so why the # should we take care of everyone else's?
originally posted by: marg6043
No wonder they love California, cut the funding and they will stop coming.