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Ladies; Get Your Birth Control NOW While You Still Can

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posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: Daedalus




The two are not even close to analogous, and if you think they are, then you are quite delusional. You don't have a line item on your policy that says "knee surgery for Daedalus' drunken dullard of a brother", do you?


Nope. But I have a line item for prescription coverage.

My daughter has had years of problems with contraception, problems, problems, problems. Lots of doctor visits, lot of co-pay money, even with her great corporate insurance policy and the ACA. Married and in her 40s now, she's spent over $3000 (co-pay) in the past 18 months just on IUD care and maintenance. So yeah, I think it's like Uncle Wayde's knee injury.




posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: Relentless
Jesus Christ - I can't read all this nonsense. I only know this - you are worried about a CHOICE IN YOUR HEALTH CARE???

Guess what - that is lifestyle - not healthcare. Do you have a clue how many of us since ACA went into place no longer have screening for Mammograms and Dexa Scans?

THAT IS WORTH CRYING OVER - I kid you not. SMH!


You are right. I agree. Women should be treated much better with women's healthcare issues. There is nothing more sacred and beautiful in the world than women. I don't understand why people who claim to have moral authority over so many issues have absolutely no empathy or reverence for women.

I think it begins with Christian religion: "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[a] she must be quiet." Timothy 2:12

Women are treated like slaves in the Bible. It's really a bad religion. Women are the sacred mothers of our children and should be treated with greatest possible reverence. The world is so much a better place when women are treated well.
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posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: windword

Seriously? Really? You are bitching about FREE birth control ... Liberals ! Do you really think that all birth control will stop once the baby butchers and baby body part traders at Planned Parenthood are out of business? I really don't think you are that dumb .....
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posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: Relentless

both are those are covered as preventive services in the insurance policies so I imagine these women you are talking about don't have insurance.
never had a mammogram, but did have a bone density test when my ankle bones snapped.
as far as the mommogram goes, I always kind of figured that if it ever came up positive I wouldn't be able to afford the treatment anyways so what good is knowing. as with the bone density test, the doctors had their mind set that that was the problem regardless of what I said and I just got tired arguing with him, and well so I went and had the thing done... and I don't believe that my insurance at the time paid for all of it. but, it came back border line so he gave me a perscription of bills that at least with me caused alot of problems with acid. I stopped taking them soon after I started. but, I did a little research to see what they would have done for the side effect and learned that the medication that they would have given me had for one is it's side effect bone deterioration... so, well if you are worried about your bones, well start taking eating food that have some calcium content in them.

but again, there have always been lots of women who have been bypassing all of these tests all along.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: fnpmitchreturns

This thread isn't about free birth control.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: fnpmitchreturns
a reply to: windword

Seriously? Really? You are bitching about FREE birth control ... Liberals ! Do you really think that all birth control will stop once the baby butchers and baby body part traders at Planned Parenthood are out of business? I really don't think you are that dumb .....



I bet there will be a huge baby boom come sept 2017!

Oh wait, there will only be more progressives!

I'll start a Birth Control Foundation!

Who will throw in with me?





posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: windword

Listen up ladies! You can't expect the government to pay for your recreational sex any longer!

The party is over. The monsters in the Republican Party are mandating personal responsibility. What will we do? Take personal responsibility? NEVER!!



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015
I can't help but laugh when I read your post. You put women on this pedestal... it's a little odd at best.



posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: Innocuous

Listen up men!!!

Women aren't gonna be paying for recreational sex any longer! not by going through nine months of hell, not by having you run off at the words "honey, I think we blew it, I'm pregnant.", never to be heard from again, and not by spending over three years of our income on birth control pills...

so... just forget about the recreational sex..


SM2

posted on Nov, 12 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Innocuous

Listen up men!!!

Women aren't gonna be paying for recreational sex any longer! not by going through nine months of hell, not by having you run off at the words "honey, I think we blew it, I'm pregnant.", never to be heard from again, and not by spending over three years of our income on birth control pills...

so... just forget about the recreational sex..

ok ummm you only make $3 a year? Target sells a generic pill to people without insurance for $9 a month. so seriously this is ridiculous Once again, condoms are free at the health department as well.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 06:22 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
My word!

You would have thought no woman anywhere ever got her abortions or had any birth control prior to Obamacare!

How did we poor, put upon women manage it?


Indeed. Let me see if I can remember that far back....Oh right. We had jobs and paid cash for anything prescription plans didn't cover. We also did without frivolous things like new $$$ phones every time a fresh model came out.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: msfitte

we also once had doctors who kept a pharmacy in their basement and had the drugs on hand to hand out to those they knew were strapped for cash.... and, I'm not talking about a few samples, I am talking about rather large bottles of many, many, different kinds of pills, lined up on shelf after shelf. his daughter was a good friend of mine, and we ventured into the basement a few times to harass the spiders.... and there were prescription plans.... still say you got better healthcare back then also...



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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I think my IQ dropped by reading this fear mongering drivel. I hate to break it to you, but, you were able to get birth control before Obamacare. You were able to get it free by going to the health department before Obamacare. I paid a TON less for the doctor and my female appointments were covered at my GYN, and I didn't have to go to my GP for them as I have to now, thanks to Obamacare. Maybe my rates won't be so bad and maybe they will cover my actual appointments again. Not to mention you can get BCP's for $5 a month if you get generic. If you don't, they are about $30. Never has birth control been on the chopping block. But, if it makes you feel better to act like the sky is falling, by all means...

Honestly, I don't think Trump gives a crap about abortion. I think that was a pandering issue to get hard right votes. Birth control was never an issue though. Just not making your insurance pay for it. I bet it still will under your RX plan. If it doesn't, well, you will survive paying for it, or go to the health dept. My friend takes her daughter there and its free. It won't change. Good grief.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: Innocuous
a reply to: windword

Listen up ladies! You can't expect the government to pay for your recreational sex any longer!

The party is over. The monsters in the Republican Party are mandating personal responsibility. What will we do? Take personal responsibility? NEVER!!


Recreational sex, huh?

Oh I must have forgotten that sex is strictly for baby making, and should not be had at any other time, for any other reason, ever. My bad.

Maybe the issue isn't free birth control, maybe it's about access. If you are paying for insurance, something as basic as birth control (which has MANY off label uses) should be covered, period... Not made off limits because of someone else's personal beliefs.

If you are on state insurance, you should have access to birth control.

Clinics should not lose funding, as that funding helps women who cannot afford insurance, but also do not meet income requirements to get state insurance, to get Pap smears, mammograms, birth control, STD testing, and referrals to other important services.

Please, keep your subjective truths away from other people's body parts.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

It seems pretty irresponsible to be driving with bad brakes and putting off meals in order to have health insurance. If they didn't pay those $600/month premiums he might not be risking his life every day on the way to work and the kids would be healthier because they were eating better. But hey, health insurance is definitely more important than food or housing, right? And either of them could get birth control for free at their county health department if that $30-$50/month is really going to break the bank.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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I think my IQ dropped by reading this fear mongering drivel. I hate to break it to you, but, you were able to get birth control before Obamacare.


It's true. It was not an issue before the ACA. Contraception was always included in my work based health insurance plans. It wasn't until the ACA contraception mandate that businesses started pulling it and using morality excuses as a reason to deny it.

This thread isn't about Obamacare. It's about the threat of women losing access to birth control through Trump's promises. Defunding Planned Parenthood, that's been around way before the ACA. What's the reason? Because Obama rescinded Pres Bush's ban on fetal stem cell research. As a result the GOP is punishing low income women by the millions by closing clinics that would provide them access to affordable birth control across the nation.

Additionally, Trump has promised to appoint SC judges that will overturn Roe V Wade and the GOP has promised to enact a constitutional amendment that would make most popular forms of birth control illegal, under the premise they cause abortions.

This thread isn't about Obamacare. It'a about the threat to women's reproductive rights.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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I'll start a Birth Control Foundation!

Who will throw in with me?

It must include pregnancy testing, pre-natal care including vitamins and education. STI testing with education and approved antibiotics and other medicines. And some other things also which I can't list off easily; OBGYN and public health professionals know what is needed.

Oh, wait! Title X has been providing that for forty years. I benefitted back in the 1970s and 80s. I've been paying back through federal and state taxes ever since. I would like my support to continue please.



posted on Nov, 13 2016 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: riiver

so quick at accusing people of being irresponsible!!

how do you know that it would be irresponsible for the family to make insurance a priority?? if there's a member in the family with chronic health problems.... it's probably the most responsible thing to do!!!




And either of them could get birth control for free at their county health department if that $30-$50/month is really going to break the bank.


first, you are wrong.... you don't necessarily get free birth control from the country health department, at least no in the one in my area.... I looked... they run on a sliding scale, just like planned parenthood, based on income...

but, let's look a little closer at your logic, because it seems to be really flawed in my opinion. either that or you have no idea what we are discussing.
I am not discussing obama care really... I think it's a crappy law also..
what I am discussing is the idea that birth control shouldn't be included in insurance policies...
which it seems the two most common reasons being given is that it isn't healthcare.... and that noone else should be paying for your lifestyle choices...

I've given my reasons as to why I think that birth control should be considered a valid aspect of healthcare and won't go into that now.
but let's look at what you just did here...
first, you seem to be rather picky as to which bad lifestyle choices you chose unworthy and which you don't... fact is.... there are many, any health problems that are the result of bad lifestyle choices.
but, the idea that you are paying for someone's birth control simply because you are buying into an insurance pool that happens to cover birth control for the women who are also buying into the same pool.....it obtuse enough...
but to then go on and say that well if those women weren't covered by their insurance they could go to a federally funded title x program to get it is insane!!! because, the link between your money in that insurance pool is far more faded than your tax dollars in that gov't program!!! do you want people living independently from these gov't programs or not???

and, as far as being a "life choice", for the longest time, many insurance policies didn't pay for childbirth either, again, it was a "life choice". are you also seeing that coverage as making you pay for women's prenatal visits and childbirth also, and hating that idea??

this isn't about obamacare, which I agree is probably one of the worst written laws ever made. it is about your attitude toward women, and those special healthcare needs they have because they are women and the bringer of life into this world. and societies along with the healthcare industries themselves interest in keeping those women healthy and able to produce healthy kids able to function in the world.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 06:33 AM
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At what point have we lost the ability to be responsible for oneself? I was able to do this by the time I was in high school. I was able to decide not to have sex until I was ready and then at that point I went and put myself on BCP's. I did not use insurance as I was on my parents. They did not have to know. People seem to have relieved themselves of any personal responsibility of life these days. You seem to have to rely on the government to make all decisions for you. No one wants to take away your birth control. You can go into the grocery store and get plan B, right with the douches and tampons. No rx and you don't even have to ask the pharmacist. Heck, you can even check it out on a self scanner. The likelihood of insurance stopping covering BCP's because Trump is president is highly unlikely. I doubt that is on his reform plan. If you work for Hobby Lobby, you might not get to have abortifacients on your plan. You'll probably still have BCP's. Even if you don't have them on your RX plan, you will still be able to get them via RX through your doctor. No one is taking them away, even if you want to be overly dramatic



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 08:03 AM
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oh c'mon...it's not going away



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