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originally posted by: BrokedownChevy
originally posted by: dismanrc
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: ketsuko
Planned Parenthood existed before the ACA. It may not exist next year.
It will exist. It just will not be getting Federal funding.
Correct. This also means that women would not have equal access to Planned Parenthood which can be considered illegal in a court of law due to denial of access to doctors. By allowing the federal defunding the court is essentially saying that all states may defund if they choose which leaves women out in the cold. It's an all or nothing situation and the supreme court has.already determined that nothing is not an option.
Suck it up. We're not going down this road again.
Past the 3rd trimester is a born baby. You can't abort a baby that's already been born.
Keep that distinction in mind as we break down where Planned Parenthood’s federal funding comes from. Planned Parenthood receives about $450 million each year in federal funds. Government funding (including state funding, too) accounts for about 41 percent of Planned Parenthood’s yearly revenue, according to the group’s annual report.
Of the $450 million in annual federal funds, about $390 million comes from Medicaid. Less than $1 million comes from other entitlement programs: Medicare and the Children’s Health Insurance Program. Medicaid provides subsidized health care for poor Americans, and Planned Parenthood provides a significant number of poor women with reproductive health care.
So nearly 90 percent of Planned Parenthood’s federal funding comes from entitlement programs, a.k.a. mandatory spending. Meaning it’s not part of the appropriations process.
The remaining 10 percent does come from discretionary spending, meaning it’s normally up for debate in the appropriations process. The $60 million comes from grants under the National Family Planning Program -- known commonly as Title X because it operates under Title X of the Public Health Service Act.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
Why is the morning after pill not available over the counter? Is that immoral too?
Completely eliminating Title X would reduce Planned Parenthood's budget by 10%.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
okay, let's look at one of these bad choices...
boy meets girl, they fall in love get married, and even after marriage the wait to have children till she is out of school... with birth control's help of course. after college, well, they get married, and soon, baby number one is born. then baby number two, then baby number three.
they have their perfect family size, and decide that they don't want anymore kids, heck they couldn't really afford anymore if they wanted them. they look into tubal litigations, and find out that it's way too expensive and dad just doesn't want anyone messing with his goodies. so it's back on birth control....so they struggle to figure out how to pay for it, since at that time, many of the insurance policies didn't carry it. but what if they can't afford it, so, she or he decides okay, we just won't have sex till there is no risk of children which means 10-20 years of sexless marriage. what if the other ones really values that intimate act, enough that he just ain't gonna accept this....
is it a better choice to just have the two go off in their own direction, break up the family, and bring chaos into their children's lives???
sex isn't a dangerous and harmful act!!! it's a natural part of most marriages, before they want kids, while they are having kids, and after they can't have anymore kids!!! providing coverage for birth control prevents pregnancies that guess what....drives up the cost of your insurance more!!
originally posted by: windword
First of all, this thread isn't about free stuff. Is your health insurance free? If you're paying, say, $400 a month for health insurance, and you wife's lady needs are covered in your plan, how is that free?
Contraception and preventative health care/insurance isn't a new concept that Obama just pulled from his arse, it's been around for a long time.
Secondly, personal autonomy, your own personage is not a trifling right, in an inalienable right. Don't brush it off so easily.
Third, this thread isn't about the ACA at all. It's about the Trump and his administration's plan to overturn Roe V Wade, defund Planned Parenthood, funded through Title X, a federal grant system that addresses family planning, and the GOPs promise to enact a constitutional amendment that bestows citizen rights on a fertilized egg and criminalizes abortion and hormonal birth control methods, on the federal level. These are the GOP's wet dreams!
Yes, today there are lot's of options available. But what will be available to women after 4 years of Trump/Pence?
It's "free" in that it's not costing anything EXTRA....as in, it's not a line-item that you can choose to have, or not have..
you can't opt out, to bring the price of the plan down.. This means you have a locked in increase in price for the plan, as opposed to what it would be otherwise...
2 - PP should be defunded...taxpayer money shouldn't be used for something that the government has no business being involved in.
3 - I disagree with the constitutional amendment...until a certain point, it's not a person yet. However, i still believe abortion should be a last resort...
4 - I also disagree with outlawing hormonal BC....it's a bit silly, and more than a little unnecessary.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Daedalus
welcome to the crack, longtime resident here!!!
the problems you are describing have been around a long time. what you are experiencing is the fact that the cost of the healthcare has increased enough to exceed your means... and yes, no one is talking about you, just like no one really talked much about me all these years. but, you have one advantage I never had. that is that obama has tinkered with the system, it's success is quite questionable, but still he tinkered. but you have a vast number of people, many of whom can still have access to the healthcare system that also think this law is crap. so when you speak out, at least you get a little support. that wasn't so with me. nope to everyone I was a whiner, a lazy do nothing, someone who just didn't work hard enough, someone who wanted my healthcare free!! I wasn't lazy, I limped into work every day, and unlike many, my work could have been calculated scientifically into a significant amount! I fell a few times at work, I limped quit often, I avoided going to the break room often because well, I didn't want to try to negotiate the stairs, I was fired from some jobs, quit some others, went nuts laying in a bed with a splint on my leg trying to find a surgeon that didn't want an insane down payment to do the operation that would allow me to walk again, and now, thank you so much!!! I can live the rest of my life handicapped, unable to really drive that far, unable to do alot of things!!! and with near constant pain!! so, ya, welcome to the crack, such a lovely place to be!!! just don't think that you were the first to be here or that obamacare was the reason you are here. you would have ended up here eventually anyways!
as for the birth control included in the health insurance, I am sorry, but it costs a heck of a lot less money to provide people with their birth control than it does to bring a child into the world and keep them healthy through their childhood! if paying out of pocket a women would end up paying around $50,000 through her childbearing years. for many working women, that can be around four years of her life that she is spending on just preventing birth, so she can keep working, so she can make sure the kids that she does have have food on the table!
and by god, if you are gonna make a danged law that says she has to buy into an insurance plan, that plan needs to acknowledge birth control as something worthy of being included in it!
originally posted by: daryllyn
originally posted by: VVV88
a reply to: windword
Women have control over their body. They can control themselves to not have sex if they don't want to get pregnant. What am I missing?
Because women become pregnant all by themselves. It's not like it takes a product produced by only men, to become pregnant or anything....
How about some responsibility on the male side?