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Broken system: Hillary won the popular vote but lost the election...

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posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: sprtpilot

true but on the other hand now we have a bunch of sparsely populated rural states dictating to the rest of the country.



Which just happen to be the folks that have been paying for the socialist wet dream that the urban areas most denefit from. Look at Ohio and the whole state is red save for several large urban areas. Looks like the Viet Cong have spoken.
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posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere


An Update on the Popular Vote . 35,000 Differential . Meaningless .



As of early Wednesday morning, Clinton had 58,909,774 total votes compared to Trump’s 58,864,233, according to CBS News and CNN. The tallies will continue to change but Clinton holds a 47.6 percent lead compared to Trump’s 47.5 percent.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 03:56 PM
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Trump won fair and square,get used to it!



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

Yeah, that's all we need...

Let the fate of the nation rest in the hands of California, Illinois, and New York.

Terrible idea. We live in a Republic because it PROTECTS the minority.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah
I strongly disagree that the EC is fair in it's representation. It absolutely is not. I love how the excuse was used that "how is it fair for one area to decide for the rest?" You just watched that happen Tuesday. The minority (who would have lost in a popular vote election) won.


Define fair. Would it be fair if Los Angeles+New York City determined a national vote? Would it be fair if each state were counted equally, and the larger states didn't have representation that reflects their population?

The current system is very fair.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Nyiah
I strongly disagree that the EC is fair in it's representation. It absolutely is not. I love how the excuse was used that "how is it fair for one area to decide for the rest?" You just watched that happen Tuesday. The minority (who would have lost in a popular vote election) won.


Define fair. Would it be fair if Los Angeles+New York City determined a national vote? Would it be fair if each state were counted equally, and the larger states didn't have representation that reflects their population?

The current system is very fair.


TBH, until this election the folks in the red states were starting to feel like the liberals on the coast were going to have their way with us. 8 years of some VERY liberal social policies have created a lot of heartburn.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 08:01 PM
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sighs


Just watch. Grey has other great videos on this problem too, watch them if you can.

Regardless, US' system = Broken.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: gladtobehere


It is not a democracy when a handful of select individuals (the electoral college), determine the outcome of an election.


Exactly, but it never was, and for that reason. It's a republic. True democracy is way too leftist for people here


I would rather it be a democracy. Is what it is I suppose.

That said, if Trump won the popular vote, but lost the election... I have a strong feeling Trump supporters would be crying foul and Dems would be telling them to suck it up (just like the members above are doing). Both sides would be guilty of this. The electoral college is only a problem for most people if it doesn't work in their favor.
You are right that the electoral college is a problem for people of whom it's not in their favor for. The electoral college in general happens to irritate those who do not know the purpose of it and who want a direct democracy because they can more easily influence the masse to Vote a certain way as we've seen happen with media programming It is usually those on the Left who favor such systems that cater to democracy instead of a representative Republuc. One can imagine why, as the Legt favor socialist systems which purport to have the common good of all at heart but ehich also conveniently favor mob rule rather than individual liberties. I posted on another site a page that explains how the electoral college supports Liberty better than the popular vote alone. It explains about individual states as we had more of a focus on the states at the time of our country's founding.
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posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn
The only thing that's broken here is jerrymsnderong of precincts by those who wish to take advantage for political gain instead of respecting the will of the people, and also the issue of rigged voting machines which we know have been in use for the last few elections. The use of deliberate toos by the left such as voter intimidation at the polls and encouraging illegals to vote has destroyed the faith of the people and thus the populate vote is not accurately represented in a fair and legal way. But some people will do
Anything to get their way even if it is not fair or morally sound.
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posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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Maybe people is rural areas usually vote republican and people in city centers usually vote democrat because different things affect their way of life.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: fatkid
Maybe people is rural areas usually vote republican and people in city centers usually vote democrat because different things affect their way of life.


bingo.

And the main reason I take more of an antifederalist interpretation of the Constitution. I am not in favor of a strong central authority, as it is further removed from my life.


(post by Czulkangg removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 05:37 AM
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originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
None of this would be an issue had the DNC done the right thing and backed Bernie Sanders. People can bitch and moan all they want but the fact is the DNC #ed themselves and the rest of the USA.


And there you have it, the absolute truth spoken.



posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 06:47 AM
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Not the first time in history 3rd or 4th time people have been shown that it's just a national poll or better put a national survey and not an actual vote.

It's an illusion of choice... this is why money needs to be out of politics, as it is funneled to where you do have a voice in voting and that is used to buy out and corrupt local and state politics because all those funds go to the parties and in local/state it is always who raised the most cash wins... not who the actual people want.

The parties pick electors, they pick districts, they pick ballot/vote counters and on and on... it's I pledge allegence to a party and then you close your eyes in faith that they are going to do what they say they are going to do.



posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: gladtobeherereally who says she had more votes the same people that said she was ahead in all the polls by double digits. or the people who said after last debate that she had enough elector votes to win and trump needed to go ahead and concede.just more bovine fodder coming from mainstream clinton propaganda machine to me. and no i am not sure trump going to be a good president but at least we didn't put a known criminal in white house.



posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: SignalMalyes and how did the population get so high i wonder?



posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Perfectly explained.

Can you imagine if all of us had to be represented by the people that live in LA, NYC, and D.C.? My state would not be represented at all by that bunch.


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posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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I bet 60% of the people complaining about the way it works can't even explain how or don't even know how it actually works, and 35% are just butt hurt that their candidate lost or are complaining for the sake of causing drama.



posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

I am wondering if you have consider how well Trump did in battle ground states? He played the game better, and if the game was getting the popular vote, he would have accomplished that too



posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 12:36 PM
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And for those that keep bragging that she won the popular vote, it was razor thin...really really thin like 47.7% to 47.5%




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