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Originally posted by Mahree
Duzey, A little misconception there. Catholics do pray to God. I have never prayed to the Pope. We do believe that he has been placed here by Jesus as the leader of our Church on earth.
Originally posted by Duzey
Originally posted by Mahree
I didn't mean that you prayed to the Pope, but that Catholics believe the Pope is 'above' them in the chain of command. Protestants do not. To a Protestant, no man is more holy than any other and to elevate a man above others is not the true teachings. Just a little misunderstanding is all. I was never a Catholic, so I'm not too sure exactly what he 'does' for the religion, aside of guidance, and settling disputes.
worldwatcher, I'm sorry your thread appears to be in the process of being jacked.
Originally posted by Duzey
They feel all prayer, worship and reverence should be for God and Jesus only.
"So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks recieves, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened"
And no JJ, I didn't mean you. I know it's Jake
Originally posted by junglejake
[...erm...huh? That's got to be one of the most confusing pairs of sentances I've ever read
The new religion He began was Christianity.
Catholics were the original Christians.
I believe that tolerance would begin if you stopped making the assumption that Catholics are not Christian. Or else at least give me your basis for your statements.
Originally posted by stalkingwolf
actually it was Paul that started the new religion, Jesus advocated a return to
an older, purer Judiasm.
He expanded on Judiasm,
Originally posted by toolmaker
Paul did influence the doctrines of Christianity far more than Jesus did, and what a shame that is.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
Not only can you believe in Jesus without being a Christian, You can also believe in Allah, Buddha, Krishna, Brahma, Shakti, Devi without being of any particular religious persuasion.
I am really getting tired of all this religious bickering among humans. It bewilders me that more people cannot open their eyes and see that you can accept a philosophy, be tolerant and understand a philosophy without becoming or needing the religious name tag associated with it.
Look at Hinduism, it believes in One Supreme Being, yet it understands that humans need to see "God" in a way they can relate to, so a myriad of avatars are available for worshippers. The same can be said on a broader scale, if you believe in any "God" you will acknowledge his/her complexity and unmeasurable power, you will also acknowledge that every creature in this universe is a creation of "God". So how can you not accept that "God" portrayed himself in various ways to give his message to his creations. Imagine a circle with God in the center, you can approach him/her in any direction. The key to remember here, is that while there is only One God, there is uncountable paths that lead to him. No message hold more importance or significance than another, no religion is better than another. Man has corrupted the true philosophy of religion to further their own gains. As long as you follow the tenets of being a good person and the basics in regards to morals that most religions agree on, you are on the right path. You do not need ritualized worship, but if it makes you feel good, then that's the path for you. You can be an atheist and still find "God" in the end. You do not need to believe in God, if it doesn't fit your life. Just live a good life and in your next, perhaps you will no longer see the need to be an atheist.
It is time we all open our eyes and see that no one is right and no one is wrong when it comes to religious persuasion. In this life I may be a Hindu, but in my last I could have been a Christian and maybe in the next I will a Muslim. We are born into different religions or influenced by circumstances outside ourselves that cultivate what religion we choose to practice. But inside we are all the same, we are human, with a intelligence we don't yet fully understand or are quite capable of comprehending as of yet.
I was born a Hindu, I practiced hinduism most of my life, but I was also baptised in a church twice, once as a Catholic and once as a Christian, blessed and saved by a muslim mejji, shared Hannukah prayers with my Jewish friends, I see the beauty and truth in all religions. In my own family I can find the full spectrum of religious beliefs and non beliefs, yet we are related by blood. I see the fundamental message that "God" gave us all, I only wish all of humanity could see the same thing I see.
Maybe then we will realize it is not our duty to cast judgement, convert or distance ourselves from others due to the tag of religion. Maybe we will realize religion is a personal thing and can finally work towards understanding how much we are alike instead of looking at our differences.
Remember the "God in I" and start within, you will no longer need to look at others and what they believe in.
sorry for preaching, but it wasn't meant to be a sermon of any kind, just something I have always wanted to say.
Originally posted by Slicky1313
well what if lets say the christian God (protestant) is correct, and u dont meet the requirments of being "saved from hell"? so, according to the religion u go to hell. and IF that religion is TRUE, then theres NO exceptions.
Originally posted by brygivrob
Many "Christians" are like frothing-at-the-mouth rabid beasts that will tear you to pieces if you don't think like they do. Jesus would never do that. He was "tolerant." Over and over again, he proved through his actions that he was tolerant, gentle, kind and understanding.
Why can't more "Christians" be like that?
Originally posted by Duzey
In the more liberal Protestant churches, as long as your not running around killing and pillaging, you pretty much get a free pass to Heaven, if that is indeed what happens after this life. And if you were running around killing and stealing, you would only need repent to Jesus to be forgiven.
"He who believes in [Jesus] is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
Originally posted by junglejake
Repenting means to ask for forgivness, and then to move in such a manner as to remove the sin you consistantly commit out of your life. Yes, you repent to Jesus, and even if you killed 1.5 trillion people you're still forgiven.
Originally posted by Duzey
Well, it would be more of a sure bet if you repented a couple of days before you died. Like most everything in life, it's all about timing. Just say 'I'm sorry, I accept Jesus into my life' and then don't kill anyone for the next couple of minutes. I was brought up with very liberal beliefs, as you can see.
I’m living the next 5 minutes
Like these are my last 5 minutes
’cause I know the next 5 minutes
May be all I have
Every moment God is giving is precious
Every heartbeat every breath I take
We’ll never have them back once they’ve left us
There will never be another right now
...
This is the day this is the hour
This is the moment the lord has made