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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: tikbalang
Its still a belief system
No. It's the rejection of a belief system.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: TzarChasm
...and bald is a hair color.
It's not a rejection of belief systems; it's a rejection of deities, and a faithful one at that. "Without God", but rarely without the same superstitions that allowed God in the first place.
originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: mOjOm
You could go back to the start read the threads, and then use your brain for something besides its natural instincts
originally posted by: tikbalang
You could go back to the start read the threads, and then use your brain for something besides its natural instincts
originally posted by: mOjOm
It's not a "belief system". Even if you want to change language so that a "Non-Belief" is a "Belief" it's still not a system of any kind. No component parts of any kind which by definition a system must have to be called a system.
There is one component to someone being an Atheist and that's it. That's not a system.
originally posted by: Rex282
Atheism is not a belief system it is a cog in a belief system.
originally posted by: coomba98
Hey all.
Its no more a belief that i dont 'believe' that vampires or pixies exist.
Like the box example in the video.
It is my 'belief' that there is no apple or cat in the box due to a lack of evidence.
It is my 'belief' that i dont know whats in the box.
Coomba98
originally posted by: Rex282
Atheism is not a belief system it is a cog in a belief system.
originally posted by: Rex282
A Belief System is how a person perceives their world.Everything is in essence belief because all of the facts cannot be known.Physicist know much more about the quantum world but the majority is a mystery and completely contradicts(quantum entanglement) what is perceived as "reality".
originally posted by: Rex282
The fact is humans can only perceive through a distorted lens of space time continuum.
originally posted by: Rex282
That is the core reason many people believe in their “God”. It is the hope against the futility of life that has no light of true hope in it’s existence because it will all end in death.
originally posted by: Rex282
Everyone with their own unique Belief System that is totally out of wack to true reality. Anyone that “knew” what was really going on would exist this reality.It would be a thin puff of smoke at best.They would never believe the insanity humans do because it is all death!
originally posted by: Rex282
In a effect it is like doing a mundane task over and over until it is reflex and the conscious belief is suspended and then replaced with what humans perceive as facts and the glaring fact right now is ALL human perception is in a Belief System.
"The fact is you have to believe before you can know".....that belief is a system because of context...it involves sets of principles..
originally posted by: Rex282
originally posted by: mOjOm
It's not a "belief system". Even if you want to change language so that a "Non-Belief" is a "Belief" it's still not a system of any kind. No component parts of any kind which by definition a system must have to be called a system.
There is one component to someone being an Atheist and that's it. That's not a system.
Yes.....
Atheism is not a belief system it is a cog in a belief system.All engines do not use pistons some use rotors.They are only part of how the system functions.A Belief System is how a person perceives their world.Everything is in essence belief because all of the facts cannot be known.Physicist know much more about the quantum world but the majority is a mystery and completely contradicts(quantum entanglement) what is perceived as "reality".
The fact is humans can only perceive through a distorted lens of space time continuum.Physicist are attempting to crack the code but they are a long long way off but the advancements are monumental so far for where it was even a hundred years ago.
However the core of the human existence is based on perception(belief through faith) no matter how much we think we know and can manipulate matter.Physics taken at face value it makes very little sense there is so little known about how it truly works.The bottom line is the existence of ALL mankind on earth in relationship to the universe is a puff of smoke.This reality rings of futility and tha’ts not to be a pessimist but a true realist.
That is the core reason many people believe in their “God”.It is the hope against the futility of life that has no light of true hope in it’s existence because it will all end in death.A Belief System with God as the main gear is built on hope not belief through faith that is natural.Everyone has faith in their Belief System because that it is the machines system function it is the mechanism of perception that are different .Unfortunatly most times life is much like a demolition derby with everyone driving nilly willy crashing into each other and not caring just wanting to be the last standing.Now THAT is futility.
There are not two camps of people, some theist and some atheist, there is one camp …ALL religious.Everyone with their own unique Belief System that is totally out of wack to true reality.Anyone that “knew” what was really going on would exist this reality.It would be a thin puff of smoke at best.They would never believe the insanity humans do because it is all death!
and it should be very obvious there is none that are doing that.There are a multitude that believe they are in one form or another.
In a sense The Matrix is real.Humans cannot perceive their true condition or they wouldn’t be in it!!This wouldn’t be a world of belief but of knowing.The perverse perception is there is a way to transcend the human condition by action when that is the very cause of all human belief and why it is infinitely significant.In effect this life is like a human conception with a lower form of awareness.When a human is being formed in the womb its cell mitosis and many other processes “grow” the body without a form of consciousness .
This conception of this life is conscious with our experiences forming our Belief System so it can grow to a KNOW system.The fact is you have to believe before you can know, except human know is still a form of belief.In a effect it is like doing a mundane task over and over until it is reflex and the conscious belief is suspended and then replaced with what humans perceive as facts and the glaring fact right now is ALL human perception is in a Belief System.
....."I think"..."I see"....this is called speaking from knowledge about not knowledge of...but, in the end of it all, I truly respect your view.
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: dfnj2015
dfnj2015.
I think your making a belief or disbelief in god bigger than what it is.
I see the god premise no bigger than the vampire or pixe premise.
For instance, is it your belief that god does not exist... key word is belief.
Coomba98
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: dfnj2015
dfnj2015.
I think your making a belief or disbelief in god bigger than what it is.
I see the god premise no bigger than the vampire or pixe premise.
For instance, is it your belief that god does not exist... key word is belief.
Coomba98
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: tikbalang
Its still a belief system
No. It's the rejection of a belief system.