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reply posted on 4-2-2005 @ 08:22 PM by Muaddib
Originally posted by soficrow
Maudib - you've pretty much completely destroyed your credibility with me. You claimed Carlyle owned 100 businesses and provided a link. The link led to the website for a small town in Saskatchewan named Carlyle.

I called you on it - made a joke of it. You didn't even have the smarts to recognize your mistake, much less laugh at yourself.

I will not waste my time clicking on the links you provide here, much less reading your babble.


I beg your pardon?....I lost my credibility according to you because i don't think that having a town by the name of the company Carlyle ,where Carlyle workers live and work is not a big conspiracy?....

Do you know that there are other towns, not only in Canada, also on the US and I am pretty sure in other countries also, that have also done this? That in many occasions they named their towns with the name of the company that helped start that town?.....

Let me ask you something......have you ever hear of company towns?.... You think it is new, or that it started with Carlyle?....

For example, the village, or town of Lemont, Illinois was named so because of the Lemont Furnace company. The town grew around the company, and thus it's name. There are many towns like Lemont around the US, in Canada, and probably other countries also.... Is there a conspiracy tied behind every one of these towns?...... That would be a big conspiracy....

www.briscar.com...

www.lemont.il.us...

BTW....you are questioning my intelligence when i called your mistake in saying that Carlyle owns the Canadian mounted police?......

I can see your plan clearly, if people do not accept your agenda and instead post information that disprove your points, you try to attack those that do not agree with you and "try to taint their credibility".....

My credibility is not in question here soficrow, but your tactics on attacking me when I can prove that you are wrong speaks volumes about you.

[edit on 4-2-2005 by Muaddib]


reply posted on 4-2-2005 @ 08:36 PM by Muaddib



reply posted on 4-2-2005 @ 08:46 PM by Mahree
The link to the Carlyle Group has been posted previously. But maybe broken open like this will help you find the answers to your questions.

Carlyle does hire the top people available. See the answers to your questions. Some of the top people are ex-government but it takes a lot more than that to turn around failing companies and then sell them as again producing and productive companies providing employment.

See who owns the Carlyle group and how it is structured.

F A Q

Carlyle Group investments by industry
Industry investments

Carlyle Group investments by funds
Investments by Funds

Carlyle Group investments by geography
Investments by geography

Carlyle Group investment portfolio
Investment portfolio

Comparison in defense contracts in dollars for the years 1998-2003

The Center for Public Integrity
Outsourcing the Pentagon
www.public-i.org...

The following show the top five defense contractors during the years 1998-2003 and the
comparison showing Carlyle Group and Halliburton Co.

Lockheed Martin - $94,056,641,059
Boeing Co. - $81,645,655,400
Raytheon Co. - $39,904,717,897
Northrop Grumman - $33, 829,847, 656
General Dynamics - $33,280,959,821

Carlyle Group - $9,334,962,462
Halliburton Co. - $6,768,728,331

Carlyle Group looks like "small potatoes" next to the 5 top contractors


reply posted on 4-2-2005 @ 10:23 PM by Mahree
Originally posted by soficrow
Someone just sent me this:



Carlyle Group Takes Over U.S. Nuclear Program

vivelecanada





I did read the article link. The article says that Carlyle owns 70% of Lockheed. At the bottom of the article it seems to quote sources. I thought perhaps this source listed would lead me to do some research on how the 70% was reached.
isuisse.ifrance.com...
However, I don't read French, guess I'm out of luck on tracking this source down. Anyone have any other leads.
The second link listed by Soficrow just lists the first link.



reply posted on 4-2-2005 @ 10:31 PM by soficrow
Originally posted by Mahree
I don't read French, guess I'm out of luck on tracking this source down.



Now aren't you sorry you skipped French? ...Try this

translationsdotcom

or

babblefish


...Some of the very best news and information - science and everything - is in other languages. ...There's a good reason no one gets a PhD without speaking 3 languages.


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reply posted on 4-2-2005 @ 10:47 PM by soficrow
Originally posted by Muaddib
Well, i tried that French link you gave, but it's dead.

isuisse.ifrance.com...

BTW, the link says it all about what they want....

isuisse.ifrance.com...stopcarlyle/enindex.htm.



You're thinking Carlyle Media's gonna publish their own dirty laundry?




BTW - the link is just fine, and it's the English version...

STOP CARLYLE



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reply posted on 4-2-2005 @ 10:47 PM by Mahree
Originally posted by soficrow
Originally posted by Mahree
I don't read French, guess I'm out of luck on tracking this source down.



Now aren't you sorry you skipped French? ...Try this

translationsdotcom

or

babblefish


...Some of the very best news and information - science and everything - is in other languages. ...There's a good reason no one gets a PhD without speaking 3 languages.


.


I guess I will just have to do the best I can with my limited education.
No business degree
No PhD
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