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Russia demands Washington explain after reports say US military hacked into Russian networks

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posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 08:17 AM
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Russia expects Washington to provide an explanation after a report claimed that Pentagon cyber-offensive specialists have hacked into Russia’s power grids, telecommunications networks, and the Kremlin's command systems for a possible sabotage.

If the threats of the attack, which were published by the US media, are carried out, Moscow would be justified in charging Washington,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said

NBC News said earlier in an exclusive report that US military hackers have penetrated crucial infrastructure in Russia, “making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons

NBC said the hack was carried out in preparation for waging a full-scale cyberwar with Russia.

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Things seem to be really heating up with Russia. I've recently read that the US is sending 3,000 more soldiers to eastern Europe, and now a major news outlet is claiming that the US has hacked into Russian power grids, telecommunication networks, and the Kremlin's command systems as a means to conduct future cyber attacks against Russia. Now Russia wants an explanation from the US, and they have every right to request such.
This is no longer a game; this is something that can create an actual war.




posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 09:01 AM
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If there is no Trump/Clinton in your thread, you have no chance, because the whole world turns only around this theatre play to fool the people, as it seems.
Sad!

On the other side, people in europe now hope that riots after the elections create so much problems inside of the USA, so that they have to stop their world war attempts to destroy maybe the whole world.
Sad too, that people have to hope for riots or a civil war in an "empire", so that the "empire" is stopped from destryoing the world.

If the USA(the evil ultrarich circles that rule this part of the americas) thinks that a war could stop the collapse of their "empire", then the rest of the world hopes that is war is a civil war in the USA.

I feel bad for the average citizens in the USA, but i feel more bad for the average citizens in europe, that become slowly pushed into a war with russia, following the plans of those warmongerers from the overseas. With help of this russia hating and driven by revenge-dreams baltic states, that stick so deep into the anus of the USA/NATO, as even germany never did. Those idiots don´t even realise that they are only used by the USA, used as blindly willing pawns on the chess board, to be sacrificed for the profits of the USA, if SHTF!



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

Tell us how you really feel, haha. Joking aside I was glad to hear a well articulated outsiders view. And not just the Baltic states are pawns, our own citizens are.

We are viewed as assets to keep the war machine turning. Around half of our federal taxes goes to the military industrial complex. And you're right, it is to keep the illusion of empire alive, our fiat currency is struggling.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 10:03 AM
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I doubt the Russians are demanding an explanation. On RT this AM, they replayed a CNN segment where talking heads said the story broke on another network citing (Anonymous intelligence officials) and Top Secret documents were reviewed that proved the Russians did it...

Did they really use the term "Top Secret"? And not showing them of course...

And just like that another grand conspiracy is born.

Now run with it minions, herald it far and wide on the inter webs... make it really believable by repeating it many times.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: intrptr




I doubt the Russians are demanding an explanation.


Indeed , but it gives the establishment an alibi when they are gridlocking internet on election day... we ll see.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: trollz

Russia expects Washington to provide an explanation after a report claimed that Pentagon cyber-offensive specialists have hacked into Russia’s power grids, telecommunications networks, and the Kremlin's command systems for a possible sabotage.

If the threats of the attack, which were published by the US media, are carried out, Moscow would be justified in charging Washington,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said

NBC News said earlier in an exclusive report that US military hackers have penetrated crucial infrastructure in Russia, “making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons

NBC said the hack was carried out in preparation for waging a full-scale cyberwar with Russia.

Source
Things seem to be really heating up with Russia. I've recently read that the US is sending 3,000 more soldiers to eastern Europe, and now a major news outlet is claiming that the US has hacked into Russian power grids, telecommunication networks, and the Kremlin's command systems as a means to conduct future cyber attacks against Russia. Now Russia wants an explanation from the US, and they have every right to request such.
This is no longer a game; this is something that can create an actual war.


Yea, I posted about this around 10:30pm EST last night. U.S. Ready to Hit Back If Russia Tries to Hack Election

It definitely is NOT a game. Now we need to rely on Russia to sort things out properly because clearly, USA has lost it's senses, even if its all FAKE, the damage has been done.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr

I doubt the Russians are demanding an explanation. On RT this AM, they replayed a CNN segment where talking heads said the story broke on another network citing (Anonymous intelligence officials) and Top Secret documents were reviewed that proved the Russians did it...



They didn't say "Anonymous" Intelligience Officials, they said Senior Intelligience Officials.



Did they really use the term "Top Secret"? And not showing them of course...



Yes, they really said Top-Secret and one would HOPE they didn't show them, now wouldn't one...would pretty well render useless Clearances...



And just like that another grand conspiracy is born.


Hmmm...it's been my experience that not everything is a conspiracy especially when a major news corporation like NBC News, who first broke the story has a LOT to lose by embracing an "Enquirer" type mentality..



Now run with it minions, herald it far and wide on the inter webs... make it really believable by repeating it many times.


Some things should actually be talked about...just sayin....I mean unless you embrace a total communication shutdown so EVERYONE is all the more stupid... >.>
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posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 12:18 PM
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If the US does this. The next thing that will happen is that Russia will lay the US powergrid to Waste.

The US grid is more wonrable to hack then the Russian grid. THe Russian Power grid is not based on the same Technology as the US wich is praktically run from the nett.

The odd thing is that the US would go Public With something like this. It's like the US is asking to be attacked. This is a open provocation....
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posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: spy66
If the US does this. The next thing that will happen is that Russia will lay the US powergrid to Waste.

The US grid is more wonrable to hack then the Russian grid. THe Russian Power grid is not based on the same Technology as the US wich is praktically run from the nett.

The odd thing is that the US would go Public With something like this. It's like the US is asking to be attacked. This is a open provocation....


Yea, in the thread I had created on the subject too, that was EXACTLY my point...the shock that they would go public with this, unless its some childlike rudimentary propaganda campaign...but even if it is, the end result could still be very scary. Scarier still if its NOT propaganda though, because honestly if the claims are true, it means that they would have had to test it to assure themselves that they in fact HAD the capability, and THAT will cause uproar at the Kremlin.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 01:22 PM
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They didn't say "Anonymous" Intelligence Officials, they said Senior Intelligence Officials.

Without naming them, whats the diff.

They always say 'official', too. Forensics by main stream news BS, lol.

But go ahead sell me some more, especially the unseen, official, senior, top, top (secret) kind of BS. I no more listen to them anymore than I listen to your supporting their propaganda version of events.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: frenchfries
a reply to: intrptr




I doubt the Russians are demanding an explanation.


Indeed , but it gives the establishment an alibi when they are gridlocking internet on election day... we ll see.


Blaming the Russians deflects from what the email say and especially how come they weren't sent across secure servers.

Never mind that, they were Hacked and they were Stolen, the only subjects the narrative is allowed to address.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: alphabetaone


They didn't say "Anonymous" Intelligence Officials, they said Senior Intelligence Officials.

Without naming them, whats the diff.

They always say 'official', too. Forensics by main stream news BS, lol.

But go ahead sell me some more, especially the unseen, official, senior, top, top (secret) kind of BS. I no more listen to them anymore than I listen to your supporting their propaganda version of events.


For someone who names themselves intrptr, you don't do a very good job of it.

I'm pretty confident that my position is completely one of pragmatism....but the REALITY is that it WAS said in the MSM, that's not a made up thing, it's real and verifiable....even if NONE of the things CLAIMED in the article are accurate, the language of it alone is dangerous enough to instantiate a panic and event....look at the Russian Government today demanding an explanation, THAT is a dangerous reaction...so propaganda or not, the effects are real.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 01:52 PM
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My theory is this . Clinton Hired some Minions for the hacking , they will come back and say Russia is involved with the elections and point the finger at Trump accusing him of being in bed with the Russians etc etc...

*puts on tinfoil hat*


Just saying...


Kap



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: Kapusta
My theory is this . Clinton Hired some Minions for the hacking , they will come back and say Russia is involved with the elections and point the finger at Trump accusing him of being in bed with the Russians etc etc...

*puts on tinfoil hat*


Just saying...


Kap


Yea that's the core idea behind some peoples belief of the propaganda aspect of it all....however, if the report is accurate and the US military actually can basically throw a switch and lights out at the Kremlin, then it certainly took more than a few hired minions or some rag-tag crew that had been laid-off from CompUSA



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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the language of it alone is dangerous enough to instantiate a panic and event....look at the Russian Government today demanding an explanation, THAT is a dangerous reaction...so propaganda or not, the effects are real.

You only believe what they say the Russians say if you believe the same main stream propaganda that blames them in the first place.

I don't. I crack up whenever I hear this kind of talk, I been hearing it all my life. You get used to how to tell when they are outright lying.

'Official', senior level, top secret evidence, lol.

You want official reaction for real, you just look how those top top officials react to real leaks the kind Manning Assange and Snowden put out.

The rest is crapola of the highest / lowest kind.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: alphabetaone


the language of it alone is dangerous enough to instantiate a panic and event....look at the Russian Government today demanding an explanation, THAT is a dangerous reaction...so propaganda or not, the effects are real.

You only believe what they say the Russians say if you believe the same main stream propaganda that blames them in the first place.

I don't. I crack up whenever I hear this kind of talk, I been hearing it all my life. You get used to how to tell when they are outright lying.

'Official', senior level, top secret evidence, lol.

You want official reaction for real, you just look how those top top officials react to real leaks the kind Manning Assange and Snowden put out.

The rest is crapola of the highest / lowest kind.


Yes, fundamentally I agree with you! Those keywords are double speak for BS. I get it, I've known this a long time, this isn't my first dance in the politics or military crap-talk ballroom.

What I AM saying is that, you're missing the bigger picture of the BS'es outcome...there can be serious consequences much in the same way I once heard of someone (as a joke) tell another person, "OMG you need to rush home, your wife has been in a serious accident!" - the guy had a heart attack and died because someone thought it was funny, and all lies....that's a pretty serious outcome from BS.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

Yeah because European "diplomacy" has never started 2 world wars...




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