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Why are Bernie supporters voting for Hillary?? I have lost all respect…

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posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: jburg6


Please let me be wrong on this. Please let Bernie supporters turn on the establishment in the voting booth.


The county I live in does vote by mail, and I received my ballot about two weeks ago. When it came in the mail, I sat at the table and opened it up, then stared at it for about 5 minutes. I just could not fill in the little bubble for Hillary, and I am sure as snip not filling in the bubble for Trump. So, I said forget this, wrote in Bernie Sanders name, and it felt so good. He's not going to win, obviously, but I'm not voting for someone just because I'm a Democrat, and they're the nominee.

This election has been the biggest joke, it's embarrassing really.




posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 12:44 PM
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My grandmother would vote for Adolf Hitler if he was running for president under the Democratic party. She's that dedicated and brainwashed.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: LifeMode

Bernie spent his whole political career earning that platform.

His voting record was the most consistently pro-humanity of any politician in the entire country, still is. I am unsure what your issue is.


He never worked a real job in his life. He knows nothing of the common man. And the idea that socialist policies are pro-people is insane.
edit on 4-11-2016 by TheBulk because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

No, expecting malnourished people who slept in their cars to be part of the workforce is insane. His policies are not, and are pro-people, anti-establishment and place the responsibility for the failures of capitalism at the door of those who cause them.



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 12:19 AM
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a reply to: jburg6

Sadly, Clinton is a .0000000000000000000000000001% better fit for the office due to being a corrupt politician. Some of them are voting in a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" manner: Sander's himself told any supporters to not write his name in, because Clinton and himself both agree that Trump shouldn't be given the opportunity to be voted in.

Most people see it as a "well, at least she's not Trump" vote. And, most of the "young" people I know aren't voting for her; she does not represent our generation in the slightest. Sadly, I see her getting the election though, due only to the fact that she has experience with politics.

Now, if you want a clue as to how I'm voting...Linux Mint is my operating system of choice, because while all the candidates are not especially bright, third party doesn't seem as bad as the main two choices. Plus, I'm sure both parties keep an eye on the Third-Party results; a higher number this year might signal that both sides need a fresh face representing them in four years.

-fossilera



posted on Nov, 7 2016 @ 12:21 AM
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In Shakespeare’s great play ‘Julius Caesar‘, the soothsayer warned him to “beware the Ides of March.” In Roman times, the expression “Ides of March” was just a way to say March 15th. At that time, the date that now marks a dark foreboding meant nothing to the Romans or even to the people of Shakespeare’s time. It has been charged and powered all this time to be a date of foreboding, or a time of portents that open up for tragedy. As Mental Floss notes, “The Roman calendar organized its months around three days, each of which served as a reference point for counting the other days.” There were the Kalends representing the first day of the month, then came the Nones which was the 7th day in March, May, July, and October. The Nones fell on the 5th in the other months of the year. The Ides of course represented the15th day of March, as well as May, July, and October. The Ides would fall on the 13th in the other months. The remaining, unnamed days of the month were identified by counting backwards from the Kalends, Nones, or the Ides. The word “None” comes from the Latin “nona” meaning ninth or the ninth hour or the time at end. This was all planned around the times Mars rises before the equinox signifying the time of planting and in the time of famine a time to plan and carry out war. For some it means the death of the old order and the resurrection of the new order. The rise of Mars is the representation of the rise and fall of Empires and in the year of Mars rising in Libra and withdrawing from the scales of judgment, the movements of war may raise the philosophies of old empirical tyranny.

In ancient Egypt, during the time of the great Exodus of the Hebrews, the inhabitants would rely heavily on the zodiac. The constellation Aries was considered to be its guiding force. Aries was represented by the lamb or the ram. Egyptians believed that all first-born were guided by Aries because it is the firstborn of the constellations, it is also the first and foremost sign of the Zodiac. It has been tradition that in the time of Nisan and Aries that the God of Israel would show his power by commanding the Israelites to kill the earthly sign of Egypt’s god the lamb or ram. During the Passover, God ordered that all first born be killed as well in the time of Aries. The first born would be killed who were under the influence of Aries– all who were under the influence of the Ram. We read in the Book of Exodus that in month of Nisan when the full moon of Aries was about to appear in the heavens the righteous would be warned and the infidels would be given the warning that death would be at their doorstep. The blood sacrifice would occur. The first born would die. The apex of Aries power begins upon the full moon. Aries was the Greek God of War—Mars is the Roman equivalent. We are about to cross the Rubicon of Mars and Aries and as we withdraw from the scales of judgment, the resurrection of the lich, a powerful and lawless force. The lich once thought of as a lifeless corpse of empires will be empowered through the times leading to the blood moon. In the time and space, we will be shown that the old plutocracy will be the same plutocracy that we thought was long dead. The revenant will be identified by those who are aware and we will learn the truth about the dark psychological warfare that will rekindle the old ideologies of Communism, Nazism, Tyranny and Order.

Whether we like it or not, we will be coerced into becoming operatives for the same ideologies that existed nearly 100 years ago. The images will change but the embodiment of what it all is will be pervasive. The encroachment will prove claustrophobic and rebellion will be reduced to attempts at negation. Negation will be seen as an attempt at destabilization and those who are confused as to who the good guys and bad guys are will be mired into confusion. This is how the coercion begins, it is safe to say that unless you are aware of the transformation of the heart, and the elite’s thirst for war, you may find yourself joining the wrong team. It is the team that follows the corpse, the group that is under the spell of the lich. In the movies, we see the metaphor of the lich appear with characters like Freddy Kruger or Michael Meyers. Each character wears a mask and each character is killed off, only to return again and in some cases more powerful. The reason is not because they are supernatural or super human, it is because they are a manifestation of evil and murderous vile actions. They are the metaphor that illustrates what another masked lich tells us in ‘V for Vendetta’, “ideas are bulletproof“. They do not die, but remain eternal. Evil ideas don’t die either. They are transmitted through symbols and actions. The symbolism blends and mixes, it can change meaning, transforming how we understand our world. Is Jason in the ‘Friday the 13th’ movies, a masked lich that acts against teenagers because of vengeance, and what they did to his mother? Does Batman, a masked vigilante, perform in the same fashion because of what was done to both his mother and father? How about the metaphor of the dark father with Anakin Skywalker imprisoned behind a mask?



posted on Nov, 7 2016 @ 12:21 AM
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Wasn’t his fate based on what he did out of vengeance and anger because of what was done to his mother? The empowerment of the lich is all becoming easier now because of what we have seen in literature and films. When the wise Jedi Knight Ben Kenobi said, “If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine,” what was he was really saying? He indicated that in death, his physical body would fall but the philosophy he stood for would rise again and would be stronger. Kenobi stood for good; however, in the real world it goes both ways and the vampires you thought you have eliminated, hide and return in greater numbers when they sense weakness. Those who are not awake may be the walking dead in spirit and intellect ready for the plucking. The blood and sacrifice that is part of any war will be used to raise the weak minded into the old kingdom that was called tyrannical at one time. Now it is keen to the weaker intellect. Now, with the metaphors being used and a hypothetical demon used as a tool to open the mind for what is to come, the Ides of March or the Rise of Mars and the withdrawal from Libra is the signal that is being given to indicate that war is about to be declared. “Michel Chossudovsky is an award-winning author, Professor of Economics (emeritus) at the University of Ottawa, Founder and Director of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), Montreal and Editor of the globalresearch.ca website. He is the author of The Globalization of Poverty and The New World Order (2003) and America’s “War on Terrorism”(2005). His most recent book is entitled Towards a World War III Scenario: The Dangers of Nuclear War (2011).”

Chossudovsky writes in the article ‘The Pentagon’s “Ides of March”: Best Month to Go to War‘: “In recent history, from the Vietnam war to the present, the month of March has been chosen by Pentagon and NATO military planners as the “best month” to go to war. With the exception of the War on Afghanistan (October 2001), all major US-NATO led military operations over a period of almost half a century –since the invasion of Vietnam by US ground forces on March 8, 1965– have been initiated in the month of March.” The Romans used the month of March to begin their new “military campaigns.” The ides of March or the Rise of Mars usually began on the 15th. The United States also seems to believe in the same warlike philosophy as most of their military campaigns and war marches have begun on or around the ides of March. Chossudovsky continues:

“The US Congress adopted the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which authorized President Lyndon Johnson to dispatch ground forces to Vietnam on March 8, 1965.” This was the granddaddy of false flags and marked the public beginning of the bloody war in Vietnam. “On 8 March 1965, 3,500 U.S. Marines were dispatched to South Vietnam marking the beginning of “America’s ground war”, which was well underway by the Ides of March.

“NATO’s war on Yugoslavia was launched on March 24, 1999. The NATO bombing of Yugoslavia code-named by the US Operation “Noble Anvil”. started on March 24, 1999 and lasted until June 10, 1999… The US-NATO led invasion of Iraq started on 20 March 2003 on the pretext that Iraq possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD)… The U.S.-NATO Covert War on Syria was initiated on March 15, 2011… Libya was bombed relentlessly by NATO warplanes starting on March 19, 2011 for a period of approximately seven months…” In March of 2013, the United States threatened war with Iran and then North Korea entered “state of war” with South Korea. In these times where it seems that we have wars and rumors of war, we must understand that most of the truth is a casualty and that much of what we know should allowed to change and bend with the times. Adapting to new information and uncomfortable anomalies is an imperative for today’s troubled and outrageous times. However, now in 2016, we are once again in the times of the Ides and the military campaign threatens to go forth against Russia. The lich that is rising is Communism, and the mistaken idea that the Communist empire still exists and that this is the nature of Russian president Vladimir Putin. The most frightening lich that has been resurrected and the one that we are siding with are the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi radicals known as the Banderists and the group Svoboda.

The United States and NATO are pushing the globalist imperial cult of the Western European Union and true independence for Ukraine will die as powerful and destructive ideas masked as democracy are once again returning from what was once a secure tomb. There seems to be a consistency in world leadership in which those in power willingly align themselves with the darker cabal of imperial philosophers. They have attempted many times to bring about the imperial cult. Each time they move closer to their goal, doing the same things countless times, trapped in a bubble and doomed to shed innocent blood in order to feed the beast. Their agendas of blood sacrifice and death will eventually plunge the entire planet into a universal civil war. This imperial cult was defined as a unified effort to mingle philosophical and political dogma in order to bring about a new spiritual enlightenment. In essence, men would place themselves in positions of political and religious power, acting on behalf of God eventually declaring that their lawlessness is ordained of God. The imperial cult will also use scapegoats and straw to draw the blame away from their lawlessness, identifying evildoers as the contemporary persons or institutions of the times. The imperial cult also sets out to divide people and throw them into confusion. Any group that is divided usually folds in on itself leaving the body politic in a state where it looks to the imperial government for its emotional and material support. The imperial cult forges on wearing the mask of peace and the promise of democracy. It is pushing its agenda of world dominion by establishing the one world system of control. Attempts have been made to establish a collective of governments and religions for the alleged cause of “peace.”



posted on Nov, 7 2016 @ 12:22 AM
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The imperial cult idea never dies in history it just changes its names. The conspiracy is no longer hidden, it is open and the objective is to resurrect the lich of Communism, Nazism and despotism. The empire is resurrecting a disgraceful and dangerous spectacle that is malicious and terrifying. We live in fascinating times and God has given us this moment to observe the spectacle of mankind’s folly. Perhaps at long last we can see with our own eyes without indifference the abominable falsehoods that are being programmed into us. Maybe someday we can all separate ourselves from the medieval psychodramas provided by the right wing and left wing and enjoy the future that is free from fanatical pandemonium. The madness we face is repeating the same mistakes, hoping for a different result. Beware the Ides of March, the betrayal and assassinations are being plotted, the sabers are rattling and the military campaigns shall be achieved. For all those parents who sold out their children to the Katy Perry's of the world, you will be totally responsible for the next phase in American history! But you believe Jesus will deliver you from bad judgements and inquities, right? Wrong! You will be destroyed from what your own hands and mouths devised, or took part in! Hillary has alot of innocent blood on her hands, and many Americans say they will chose the god of Hillary, over the Benevolent Ones who Created them! Isn't that ironic?

November 6, 2016



posted on Nov, 7 2016 @ 01:01 AM
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No... Irony would be the existence of a fundamentalist conservative Christian movement. That is also an oxymoron, because the last thing that Christ could be considered to be by anyone who has felt his love or read his word, would be right wing.

But that is by the by.

What you posted, extensively and persuasively above, is very much relevant to the issues of the day. However, there appears to be a disconnect here. You very wisely state that Hillary is part of the problem. That is true. However, Trump is greed personified, a man who has back stabbed and kidney shanked and bullied his way to money, and has never done a mans worth of work his entire life. He is a limp wrist, and putting a gun the size of Americas in such uncareful hands, would be tantamount to giving a three year old a .500 revolver for Christmas and taking them shooting on New Years, and expecting them to keep the recoil under control.

It's pretty simple...both Hillary and Donald should never be permitted to occupy the White House. Period.



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