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WTF is This? - Podesta and "Spirit Cooking"

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posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ghostrager

Now that's what I'm talking about. The Podesta Clain deserves to be harassed. I saw an example of what was hanging in his bedroom. Apparently, the photog's pics are in major museums in New York, so her work can be easily found. It's borderline, very borderline, and creepy.


**I** am borderline and oh so creepy... trust me, A few here know what I collect and etc.

No, this crap is sickening. WHen it crosses from weirdo freak art to illegal pedo or immoral.. then they are in need of condemning.


Wow, I get home and the info keeps on piling in. I thought this was the alt right trying to give art a bad name?




posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
What part of 'I am only talking about satanism and the implication of satanist holding power in the West' do you not understand?

What part of, "it doesn't matter, even satanists have a right to hold office" don't you understand?

The implication is a matter of opinion.


This thread is not about the constitution or religious liberty. No one is saying these people can't be elected because they are satanists.

Actually, people are questioning a candidates suitability based on a third person's interest in a performance artist that may or may not be a satanist.

That is even more petty.


How can you possibly fail to understand that your point is spurious and you arguing a point no one is arguing against? Jeez. Get a grip.

This from the person that is fear-mongering.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:29 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ghostrager



This is art.



This is a cropped portion of the Katy Grannan photo I saw. The girl in the pic is completely nude and sitting on a bed. Her hair and hands cover her strategically, but it's obvious she's completely unclothed. Her face has an uncomfortable expression on it.


If these are art and not kiddie porn...we should be able to see them posted here on ATS.
Am I right?

Perhaps Daskakik would like to post them here (un-cropped)...since they are just art.

Doesn't seem to be a problem with Michelangelo's David. So I'm sure the mods won't object.



edit on 4-11-2016 by IAMTAT because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical


I've reference Dune a couple of times and I'm going to do so again and compare the elite to the Honored Matres. The Honored Matres are described as "adrenaline addicts" by Herbert. They always sought more extreme experiences than the last because of a never ending thirst for more power and control but they always felt unfulfilled.

They are the abject lesson of absolute power corrupting absolutely. Although he put his own spin on that old saw:


All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted.



Quoting for accurate creepiness...



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: Advantage

I don't know where she got that dog but it's the word performance I don't like. What's there to perform with a dead dog? Or an alive one for that matter. The bitch is mad as a hatter anyway so nothing good can come out of this.


Well... Im a lover of rearticulation of skeletons of animals.. some artistically.. but not of killing anything to get its blood.. and then do whatever with its corpse for art. Who knows what she will do with it.

I mean its the difference.. to me... of the exhibits of the human bodies that were donated after death by the wishes of the previous tenants of that body.. plastecized.. and killing an innocent ( which a dog IS) and using its blood to badly paint some words.. and then using that humans body as "art" and make big ol bucks from weirdos off of it.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ghostrager

Now that's what I'm talking about. The Podesta Clain deserves to be harassed. I saw an example of what was hanging in his bedroom. Apparently, the photog's pics are in major museums in New York, so her work can be easily found. It's borderline, very borderline, and creepy.


**I** am borderline and oh so creepy... trust me, A few here know what I collect and etc.

No, this crap is sickening. WHen it crosses from weirdo freak art to illegal pedo or immoral.. then they are in need of condemning.


Wow, I get home and the info keeps on piling in. I thought this was the alt right trying to give art a bad name?


Thast what you get fer thinkin' and not askin'.




posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Perhaps Daskakik would like to post them here (un-cropped)...since they are just art.

Never seen them so I can't give my opinion.

ATS would have the last word and I don't see what difference my opinion would have on that.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Personally, I have no problem with art that portrays nudity as artistic. The problem comes when a persons 'art' portrays an nude individual that hasn't developed their prefrontal cortex and the purpose of the 'art' is to portray that. That isn't art, it's exploitation. These individuals aren't able to fully distinguish the consequences of their actions and as such they are at risk of being exploited.

While the legal age may be 18, the prefrontal cortex doesn't fully develop until 21-25, with a 3ish year gap between males and females. What pisses me off is that these 'artists' know this and use the excuse of 'art' to exploit for profit.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Perhaps Daskakik would like to post them here (un-cropped)...since they are just art.

Never seen them so I can't give my opinion.

ATS would have the last word and I don't see what difference my opinion would have on that.


Well, to add.. I have quite beautiful ( to me) nude art in my house... because I like it and I can buy it. Difference is.. I know the intent of the artist and Im not cranked by childish looking adults or the attraction to that. That art could be a legal aged person, but its the intent and the meaning in choosing a child like model. There IS a difference.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

It's easy. Look up Katy Grannan and search images.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: ghostrager

And that was entirely my point. Grannan has a series of photos that use teenage girls like the one I took part of. She gets away with it because of her style (documentarian), but it's borderline stuff. That girl is hardly the only one and not the most explicitly posed.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: UKTruth
What part of 'I am only talking about satanism and the implication of satanist holding power in the West' do you not understand?

What part of, "it doesn't matter, even satanists have a right to hold office" don't you understand?

The implication is a matter of opinion.


This thread is not about the constitution or religious liberty. No one is saying these people can't be elected because they are satanists.

Actually, people are questioning a candidates suitability based on a third person's interest in a performance artist that may or may not be a satanist.

That is even more petty.


How can you possibly fail to understand that your point is spurious and you arguing a point no one is arguing against? Jeez. Get a grip.

This from the person that is fear-mongering.



No one is saying they can't be elected. No one.
I can see no one else on the thread talking about excluding the Clinton campaign from elections.

So for absolute clarity. I am not talking about excluding anyone from the election process because they are satanists, just my view on satanism and not wanting satanists running the West.

Hopefully you can finally understand that no one is arguing your point and there is no need to keep addressing me with the same argument that I am not arguing against? It's beyond weird.

You sound like you need attention.. popping up and asking me to ignore you and then popping up and asking me to ignore you again and then popping up again and making an argument that no one is discussing. Do you need to be tucked in or something before you go to bed? Have some hot cocoa and get some sleep.


edit on 4/11/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

According to what I found the models posed however they liked. The age of the model in the cropped nude is unknown.

I don't think ATS would allow it even if she was an adult at the time the picture was taken.



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posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: UKTruth

here's more info on that
kreemart.com...

That's def Gwen Stefani. What a shame. Debbi Harry there too. These public events are done for the shock factor but then it's easy to dismiss as self-expression for them. Meanwhile the private parties are the real deal.


That's just disturbing. Symbolic Cannibalism? These people have an unhealthy obsession with this kind of stuff.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ketsuko

According to what I found the models posed however they liked. The age of the model in the cropped nude is unknown.

I don't think ATS would allow it even if she was an adult at the time the picture was taken.


And that is why I wouldn't post the whole image.

There is some stuff that is clearly art. Botticelli's Birth of Venus. Michelangelo's David. Many of the paintings of Rubens.

But then there is stuff like this picture and the others in the series that just don't feel right.

I mean, if her style is documentarian, shouldn't I feel like I'm looking at a National Geographic photo and not something I shouldn't be seeing which is how these photos of hers made he feel?



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: kosmicjack

If you've ever read the novels, you know that the HMs are the antithesis of the Bene Gesserit.

I kind of see the government inter-agency warfare scenarios similar to when the HMs came flooding back in to the old Imperium, the time frame people who have only seen the movie will be familiar with; not to mention missing out on so much more depth than any visual media could hope to capture.

Heretics took place some thousands years later. It's been a long time since I've read them and the time frames are a bit fuzzy but the lessons contained within those pages are not.

I see the patriotic intel agencies as the BGs.


Odrade said: "I have sent Guild, Ix, and Tleilaxu the message we always dispatch when we have been annoyed. Three words: 'You will pay.' "

"How will they pay?"

"A proper Bene Gesserit punishment is being fashioned. They will feel the consequences of their behavior."
...
Odrade allowed herself a sigh of relief. The message to Chapter House had been terse: an outline account of the attack, the list of the Sisterhood's casualties, identification of the attackers and a confirming note to Taraza that Odrade already had transmitted the required warning to the guilty: "You will pay."

Yes, those fool attackers now knew the hornet's nest had been aroused. That would create fear - an essential part of the punishment.


Heretics of Dune - Frank Herbert

I would say that the hornet's nest has indeed been aroused. I would imagine a certain tightening of sphincters is taking place in 'Clinton World,' about now.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: Thoren

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: UKTruth

here's more info on that
kreemart.com...

That's def Gwen Stefani. What a shame. Debbi Harry there too. These public events are done for the shock factor but then it's easy to dismiss as self-expression for them. Meanwhile the private parties are the real deal.


That's just disturbing. Symbolic Cannibalism? These people have an unhealthy obsession with this kind of stuff.


Catholics do the same gruesome thing.... look up transubstantiation of the host.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ketsuko

According to what I found the models posed however they liked. The age of the model in the cropped nude is unknown.

I don't think ATS would allow it even if she was an adult at the time the picture was taken.


And that is why I wouldn't post the whole image.

There is some stuff that is clearly art. Botticelli's Birth of Venus. Michelangelo's David. Many of the paintings of Rubens.

But then there is stuff like this picture and the others in the series that just don't feel right.

I mean, if her style is documentarian, shouldn't I feel like I'm looking at a National Geographic photo and not something I shouldn't be seeing which is how these photos of hers made he feel?


And this was the point I was trying to make with my challenge.
I wasn't trying to be antagonistic with anyone.
Well said, Ketsuko.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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Ok Ive let my thread dangle looking for the Podesta hands with the symbols of Osirus' death post. I cant find it.. Will someone PLEASE post it or a link?? Purty please?




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