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originally posted by: scubagravy
a reply to: zosimov
Was he not a common man ???
O positive.
Am I positive? Negative
originally posted by: zosimov
Hi all, I have an interesting "timeline slip" debate to bring up..
Earlier this year I had an fascinating time doing some amateur research about positive vs negative bloodtypes. I'm sure you've heard some of the crazy theories regarding Rh neg. Let's say that my family contains a little of both, so I have a vested interest in the matter.
During my research, I found numerous sites stating that AB neg blood was found on the Shroud of Turin. Now google says otherwise (AB pos).
I found this very interesting site in which several commenters remember Jesus's blood type as being AB neg. (Don't eviscerate me! I'm looking for interesting discourse, not insults!) Is this yet another Mandela effect? Any ATSers care to share their thoughts?
Here's the site-- makes for an interesting read:
inourimage.wordpress.com...
Looking forward to hearing from anyone with knowledge of what type of blood was determined to be on the Shroud.
Quoting digital01anarchy
However the negative blood is interesting in and of itself. Females with negative blood types can only conceive with males with negative blood naturally. The reason i say naturally is because the mother will produce a powerful venom that will kill a positive blood type baby in the womb. Science has found a way to save negative blood type mothers with positive blood type babys from releasing the venom.
I honestly think we are not all the same ie all humans within the same subgroup however the pc police would lose their mind. I believe its evolution and to keep the two human species from concieving. I'm AB- also i should note that the negative means no relation to recess monkey and positive means relation to recess monkey. Thats actually to simple of an answer as there is alot more to it. There are people who are positive blood types that have rarer genes then negative do as well.
originally posted by: digital01anarchy
The shroud is a fake by da vinci some people say. The fabric isnt from the same timeline.
However the negative blood is interesting in and of itself. Females with negative blood types can only conceive with males with negative blood naturally. The reason i say naturally is because the mother will produce a powerful venom that will kill a positive blood type baby in the womb. Science has found a way to save negative blood type mothers with positive blood type babys from releasing the venom.
I honestly think we are not all the same ie all humans within the same subgroup however the pc police would lose their mind. I believe its evolution and to keep the two human species from concieving. I'm AB- also i should note that the negative means no relation to recess monkey and positive means relation to recess monkey. Thats actually to simple of an answer as there is alot more to it. There are people who are positive blood types that have rarer genes then negative do as well.
originally posted by: zosimov
originally posted by: digital01anarchy
The shroud is a fake by da vinci some people say. The fabric isnt from the same timeline.
However the negative blood is interesting in and of itself. Females with negative blood types can only conceive with males with negative blood naturally. The reason i say naturally is because the mother will produce a powerful venom that will kill a positive blood type baby in the womb. Science has found a way to save negative blood type mothers with positive blood type babys from releasing the venom.
I honestly think we are not all the same ie all humans within the same subgroup however the pc police would lose their mind. I believe its evolution and to keep the two human species from concieving. I'm AB- also i should note that the negative means no relation to recess monkey and positive means relation to recess monkey. Thats actually to simple of an answer as there is alot more to it. There are people who are positive blood types that have rarer genes then negative do as well.
I have heard many theories discounting the shroud as authentic (hence my title) but not conclusively. As far as I know. Here's an article by livescience that allows for both possibilities:
www.livescience.com...
Either way, I was fascinated by the fact that Rh neg females couldn't carry Rh pos babies and wondered how the "mutation" survived?
originally posted by: feldercarb
Quoting digital01anarchy
However the negative blood is interesting in and of itself. Females with negative blood types can only conceive with males with negative blood naturally. The reason i say naturally is because the mother will produce a powerful venom that will kill a positive blood type baby in the womb. Science has found a way to save negative blood type mothers with positive blood type babys from releasing the venom.
I honestly think we are not all the same ie all humans within the same subgroup however the pc police would lose their mind. I believe its evolution and to keep the two human species from concieving. I'm AB- also i should note that the negative means no relation to recess monkey and positive means relation to recess monkey. Thats actually to simple of an answer as there is alot more to it. There are people who are positive blood types that have rarer genes then negative do as well.
This is not true. If a double positive male impregnates a negative female, there is no problem for the first pregnancy. The mother has to be exposed to the baby's positive blood for antibodies to be produced. The mother is only exposed to the baby's blood during childbirth. Thus, the mother will not have a chance for her immune system to attack the child. The second child will probably be safe also. After the first birth the mother's antibodies will have cleaned her system of the foreign blood. But, it will not be looking for the infection to reoccur. After a second birth with positive blood being detected by the mother's immune system; then the mother's immune system will stay in active mode against the foreign positive blood. A third and additional children will be attacked by the mother's immune system if they are also positive.
Now, there are drugs used to keep this problem from occuring. The mother is probably given something during child birth to stop her immune system from discovering the positive blood.
originally posted by: digital01anarchy
originally posted by: feldercarb
Quoting digital01anarchy
However the negative blood is interesting in and of itself. Females with negative blood types can only conceive with males with negative blood naturally. The reason i say naturally is because the mother will produce a powerful venom that will kill a positive blood type baby in the womb. Science has found a way to save negative blood type mothers with positive blood type babys from releasing the venom.
I honestly think we are not all the same ie all humans within the same subgroup however the pc police would lose their mind. I believe its evolution and to keep the two human species from concieving. I'm AB- also i should note that the negative means no relation to recess monkey and positive means relation to recess monkey. Thats actually to simple of an answer as there is alot more to it. There are people who are positive blood types that have rarer genes then negative do as well.
This is not true. If a double positive male impregnates a negative female, there is no problem for the first pregnancy. The mother has to be exposed to the baby's positive blood for antibodies to be produced. The mother is only exposed to the baby's blood during childbirth. Thus, the mother will not have a chance for her immune system to attack the child. The second child will probably be safe also. After the first birth the mother's antibodies will have cleaned her system of the foreign blood. But, it will not be looking for the infection to reoccur. After a second birth with positive blood being detected by the mother's immune system; then the mother's immune system will stay in active mode against the foreign positive blood. A third and additional children will be attacked by the mother's immune system if they are also positive.
Now, there are drugs used to keep this problem from occuring. The mother is probably given something during child birth to stop her immune system from discovering the positive blood.
And no wrong and it can happen on the first and the last child birth as blood mixes often between mother and child.
americanpregnancy.org...
originally posted by: JBRiddle
It's impossible to tell if the Shroud of Turin is fake or not via carbon dating due to the fact that the shroud itself was exposed to smoke sometime back in the 1300s. So any carbon dating on the shroud will tell you it's from the 1300s. But according to records it dates back to around 0-100 AD.
This is one of those mysteries that will never be answered due to the evidence being compromised.
originally posted by: JBRiddle
It's impossible to tell if the Shroud of Turin is fake or not via carbon dating due to the fact that the shroud itself was exposed to smoke sometime back in the 1300s. So any carbon dating on the shroud will tell you it's from the 1300s. But according to records it dates back to around 0-100 AD.
This is one of those mysteries that will never be answered due to the evidence being compromised.
originally posted by: zosimov
Hi all, I have an interesting "timeline slip" debate to bring up..
Earlier this year I had an fascinating time doing some amateur research about positive vs negative bloodtypes. I'm sure you've heard some of the crazy theories regarding Rh neg. Let's say that my family contains a little of both, so I have a vested interest in the matter.
During my research, I found numerous sites stating that AB neg blood was found on the Shroud of Turin. Now google says otherwise (AB pos).
I found this very interesting site in which several commenters remember Jesus's blood type as being AB neg. (Don't eviscerate me! I'm looking for interesting discourse, not insults!) Is this yet another Mandela effect? Any ATSers care to share their thoughts?
Here's the site-- makes for an interesting read:
inourimage.wordpress.com...
Looking forward to hearing from anyone with knowledge of what type of blood was determined to be on the Shroud.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
Christs blood is just blood
originally posted by: zosimov
originally posted by: Raggedyman
Christs blood is just blood
Pretty sure the gospel would disagree with this statement! Afterall, it was Christ's precious blood which was shed to save all of mankind..
But the point of the OP is not exactly to nitpick of the type (though I find it a bit fascinating, don't you?) but rather wondering if anyone has a recollection of it being found as AB neg, whereas it is now showing up to be positive.
Don't worry, Jesus's message resonates with me whichever type his blood is.
ok really is bedtime now. G'Nite all.