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originally posted by: InTheLight
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: InTheLight
But what if you are not a thing? What if you are the knowing space in which apparent things appear and disappear?
Do you mean, what if we are gods - or of the God particle?
originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason
i think the belif that time is an illusion is comical. even if the universe itself is an illusion (and i think it is, its probably a simulation made by, well who knows) times still has to exist for this to happen. nothing happens if there is no time. time is a change in state 1 cant become a zero without time. it exists its a fundamental part of reality, we just dont understand exactly how it works.
originally posted by: Wang Tang
originally posted by: dfnj2015
I can't see time. I can't hold time. I have no evidence that time exists other than indirectly from experience. This is not much different than the way people account for evidence for God. People worship time like they worship God. To suggest time does not exist is a blasphemy against their fanaticism.
I can't see gravity. I can't hold gravity. I have no evidence that time exists other than indirectly from experience.
I can't see English. I can't hold English. I have no evidence that English exists other than indirectly from experience.
If we conclude that time does not exist, then we will logically have to conclude that there are a great many other things that also do not exist.
Really, we are not debating time anymore. We are debating on what is the nature of existence.