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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: littlefinch
Although I am not in America, and therefore am not thinking about who to vote for in a few days time, I am often beset by programmed people, both right and left. Even my mother has a hard time accepting that immigration is not the problem, that it is a symptom, and one which must be addressed WELL after the actual cause has been addressed, and that the cause is warmongering on the part of western powers, the creation of proxy armies to fight shadow wars with our weapons, our equipment, and our money behind it.
She has found it difficult to accept that until these proxy wars end, immigration not only will continue, but MUST, since housing the unfortunate persons who are caught up in our own nations foreign policy decisions is the only thing we, the people can do to express our solidarity with those displaced persons. She does not find it easy to understand that we, the people of Britain and the immigrants who come here, are all victims of the same evil...the greed and megalomania of a small few in the world, who seek dominion, rather than to liberate.
originally posted by: littlefinch
a reply to: fractal5
here's the thing fractal
1. I have found points of agreement with my mother, but those are "trumped" by the fact that she's completely brainwashed and refuses to have a thought for herself on the matter.
2. I've told her a lot of things, I've asked her what would it take to convince her that this woman is a criminal, what if she was man, how would she feel about her? She answers with things like "I'm old", "I just don't know" and she sounds tired, very tired. And i don't blame her, she's lived a long and difficult life.
3. She thinks that anybody speaking an opinion that goes against the status quo is nothing but a "conspiracy theorist" and that's exactly what the MSM is pushing on people. Basically, if the MSM isn't talking about it, it's not "valid" information, even if it has been proven as reality.
She questions authority, there's no doubt about it, but she cant see through the film of propaganda that infiltrates every bit of information that she absorbs from the same, tired propaganda outlets.
I repeat the facts to her, she just simply does not want to hear it. I think it's a lost case with her, but I appreciate the advice anyway.
As Thoren said in a recent reply, people get angry, so angry that they let their emotions get the best of them, and they don't realize that their anger is misdirected at the wrong reason.
Oh I forgot a big one, humor.
originally posted by: Thoren
a reply to: fractal5
I've tried those tactics with some friends and family, it usually ends with them getting angry. The programming is so ingrained that it seems to trigger an almost violent response if questioned too hard or presented with too much contradicting fact. It usually comes to that point at the moment they run out of talking points to repeat that the msm they subscribe to spoon fed them.
Well for the most part, living at home, I try to bite my tongue when I hear my parents go on about how hard Hillary has it. When they regurgitate information that they don't fully understand or is just sometimes completely factually wrong, I feel as if I should speak my mind, sometimes just to play devil's advocate.
Let me guess you're the bastion of light and truth? One i'm not a trump supporter, you would have to be crazy to vote for Hillary or Trump.