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Tim Kaine? Was placing him as president the goal?

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posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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I was just curious about Tim Kaine? What would his presidency look like?

With Hillary's health issues, Hillary's political baggage, the Obama's not favoring the Clintons, and the FBI's renewed investigation into the emails, I just have to wonder if the plan was for Kaine to inherit the presidency all along?

Nothing against Virginia, but how does picking a running mate from Virginia help Hillary?
edit on 31-10-2016 by neutronflux because: Added last sentence.




posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Here's a very good article on Kaine's activities in central America in the 1980s.

thehill.com...
en.wikipedia.org...(American_priest)

You should be able to form some logical conclusions from this info.

Buck



posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: flatbush71

Accuse Trump conspiring with an old KGB agent while Kaine might have soviet mentors and ties? Nice



posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 10:29 PM
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If he became president i envision him like this to the Clintons..

b



posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I've been wondering for awhile now what the deal is with Tim Kaine, thinking whether she has a "horrible accident" to prevent the domino effect prosecution would entail throughout both anti-American parties (R) and (D) or legitimately dies while (if) in office, there's a real good chance she doesn't make it a full 4 years, and thus, I should know more about this Kaine fellow.

I'll be reading replies here and watching this thread closely.

Either way, might as well know something about the VPs, as I know essentially nothing about either candidates' platform, if either even has one beyond slogans and nonsense.



posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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Kaine

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posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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Did Hillary pick Kaine for his ties with soviet mentors that manipulated the catholic church in Latin America in the 80’s.

Cain in the bible Vs Kaine?

The context of Hillary



From the Boston Globe

Title: Clinton’s revolution against the Catholic Church

www.bostonglobe.com... il-us

Clinton gave us the first hint of her antireligious attitude in a speech last year where she lamented that too many women still don’t have unfettered access to abortion.

Newly leaked e-mails show that one of the ways Clinton plans to pressure the Catholic Church to change is through the creation of organizations with “Catholic” in their name that have as their cause the promotion of a progressive ideology in opposition to the bishops.


Context of Kaine (AKA Cain for the heck of it)



From The Hill

thehill.com...

Reports indicate that in Honduras, “Mr. Kaine embraced an interpretation of the gospel, known as liberation theology...”

This wasn't mainstream “Catholic thought” at the time. It was a radical, Marxist-based ideology at odds with the Church, the pope, and the United States, but supportive of (and supported by) the Soviet Union.
To counter Vatican opposition to this theology, now published documents from the Soviet and East German archives show “active measures” were undertaken to undermine the Vatican and the pope — key barriers to a Soviet influence in Latin America.




posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 05:11 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

The more I hear about the Democratic party,they appear as social infiltrators,slowly and somewhat methodically,trying to undermind our way of life,socialist regime,and to be honest some of the Republicans might be holding a sign with Trump on one side Hillary on the other,she must have something on them



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: flatbush71

You should be able to form some logical conclusions


conclusion, nothing to see here


Tim Kaine, Senator from Virginia, Home of CIA Headquarters , interrupted his Harvard law school studies to work in Honduras in 1980 , helping Jesuit missionaries.




During the early 1980s the United States established a continuing military presence in Honduras to support El Salvador, the Contra guerrillas fighting the Nicaraguan government, and also develop an air strip and modern port in Honduras. Though spared the bloody civil wars wracking its neighbors, the Honduran army quietly waged campaigns against militias movements and against many non-militants as well. The operation included a CIA-backed campaign of extrajudicial killings by government-backed units.




LtCol Oliver North - "Honduran DC-6 which is being used for runs out of New Orleansis probably being used for drug runs into US"



The Mena Arkansas Airport first came to national attention following the crash of a cargo plane in the jungles of Nicaragua. The sole survivor of the crash, Eugene Hassenfuss, confessed to being part of an illegal operation to arm and resupply the Contra forces staged out of the Mena airport, and the scandal known as Iran-Contra erupted




The Mena Connection : Exposing the CIA, Bush, Clinton, Iran Contra, & Drug Running


The shredding of Iran Contra Emails & October Surprise


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posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: Oldtimer2

I just don't know any more.

Are the republican elite democrats in disguise? Willing to take one for the team? Willing to be the fall guy. Maintaining the illusion of choice?


Or

The republican elite don't want to lose their choice positions in a government of corruption and crony capitalism? Enabling a system founded on debt, that creates a ruling class out of tax money and the flow of borrowed cash at the expense of our economy?

I bet in the near future, the government helps itself to savings accounts in the name of paying of the national debt. Look to Greece for the example.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 06:52 AM
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The media does not help either. Crucifying the Republican party on any allegations of impropriety. Even lies. Example, Romney doesn't pay taxes. Its obsessive.

Then the Clintons decades of corruption is ignored or labeled a right wing conspiracy?

If the media would expose all corruption and not be hypocritical, this would be a better country.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 07:20 AM
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I think it would be more relevant to look at pence's background.
I do believe that trump has already said he's gonna be shifting alot of the responsibility onto him and just dealing with the economic issues himself, or something like that...
if hillary gets the power, she isn't gonna give it up that easily.

but Kaine started as a lawyer, specializing in fair housing law and was a board member of Virginia chapter of Housing Opportunities Made Equal. He taught law ethics at the University of Richmond School of Law. He's sat on the city council in Richmond. He was the first white mayor of Richmond in over ten years. As mayor, the city's homicide rate fell by 55%.

He went on to be governor of the state, and while you might have heard that his economic policies caused a tremendous amount of jobs being lost, what they don't tell you was that this was during the 2008/2009 economic crisis and although jobs were lost, the unemployment rate was lower that the national average.

From there, he went on to be senator...

all the talk of his work in south america/communist crap is probably just that....crap!!!

so what about Pence, what has he done with his life??



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: Tellurian


conclusion, nothing to see here


On the contrary, there is a lot to see here.

Don't try and debate the distorted internet allegations, fantasies and lies about the Iran / Contra Affair
with someone who was directly involved in the Iran / Contra Affair.

You don't have a leg to stand on.

en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

Buck





fas.org...

Summary of Prosecutions

After Independent Counsel Lawrence E. Walsh's appointment in December 1986, 14 persons were charged with criminal offenses. Eleven persons were convicted, but two convictions were overturned on appeal. Two persons were pardoned before trial and one case was dismissed when the Bush Administration declined to declassify information necessary for trial. On December 24, 1992, President Bush pardoned Caspar W. Weinberger, Duane R. Clarridge, Clair E. George, Elliott Abrams, Alan D. Fiers, Jr., and Robert C. McFarlane.

Completed Trials and Pleas

Elliott Abrams -- Pleaded guilty October 7, 1991, to two misdemeanor charges of withholding information from Congress about secret government efforts to support the Nicaraguan contra rebels during a ban on such aid. U.S. District Chief Judge Aubrey E. Robinson, Jr., sentenced Abrams November 15, 1991, to two years probation and 100 hours community service. Abrams was pardoned December 24, 1992.

Carl R. Channell -- Pleaded guilty April 29, 1987, to one felony count of conspiracy to defraud the United States. U.S. District Judge Stanley S. Harris sentenced Channell on July 7, 1989, to two years probation.



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posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 08:11 AM
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Dismissal

Joseph F. Fernandez -- Indicted June 20, 1988 on five counts of conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstructing the inquiry of the Tower Commission and making false statements to government agencies. The case was dismissed in the District of Columbia for venue reasons on the motion of Independent Counsel. A four-count indictment was issued in the Eastern District of Virginia on April 24, 1989. U.S. District Judge Claude M. Hilton dismissed the four-count case November 24, 1989, after Attorney General Richard Thornburgh blocked the disclosure of classified information ruled relevant to the defense. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond, Va., on September 6, 1990, upheld Judge Hilton's rulings under the Classified Information Procedures Act (CIPA). On October 12, 1990, the Attorney General filed a final declaration that he would not disclose the classified information.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

Its still strange to pick a running mate with ties with a KGB backed group design to manipulate the Catholic religion to the benefit of the Soviets. Then Hillary is caught stating the Catholic church needs to be manipulated to her benefit?




usdefensewatch.com...

Title: Is Tim Kaine a Communist?

In 1980, at age 22, Kaine interrupted his law studies at Harvard to sign up for a year long stint in the Jesuit Volunteer Corps, which was heavily involved in various types of missionary work in Central America.

In Latin America and indeed across much of the world, the Jesuits were fully supportive of liberation theology, which began as a movement within the Catholic Church in Latin America in the 1950s and 1960s.

On the surface, liberation theology preached helping the poor, but in actuality it was a playbook for communist subversion, with one goal; the Marxist take down of poverty stricken nations in Latin America and communism’s advance to the doorstep of the United States, when Mexico too, collapsed under the weight of Moscow funded revolution.

There is more than ample evidence that liberation theology was conceived by the KGB as a way of enabling a communist takeover of Central and South America, while also causing a schism and a possible collapse of the Catholic Church itself. In essence, liberation theology was a giant disinformation campaign run by the Soviet Union.




posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

Government officials seem to be willing to use any tool available to shape the world in there image.




www.christianexaminer.com...

WASHINGTON (Christian Examiner) – A communist official who defected to the United States at the height of the Cold War has claimed in an interview the KGB developed the powerful movement known as "Liberation Theology" as a means of wresting control of South America from the orbit of the Catholic Church and the influence of the United States.




posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

I have one word regarding Tim Kaine's globalist agenda: Jesuits

In a rare move, a pope resigned to make way for Argentinian, Jorge Bergoglio, a Jesuit. First Jesuit ever to become the head of the Catholic Church.

In another rare recent move a few weeks ago, the Black Pope resigned to make way for the new Black Pope, Jesuit Arturo Sosa from another South American country, Venezuela. (The Black Pope is considered by some to be the most powerful person on the planet.)

Jesuits are deep into the world's banking systems.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: neutronflux

I have one word regarding Tim Kaine's globalist agenda: Jesuits

In a rare move, a pope resigned to make way for Argentinian, Jorge Bergoglio, a Jesuit. First Jesuit ever to become the head of the Catholic Church.

In another rare recent move a few weeks ago, the Black Pope resigned to make way for the new Black Pope, Jesuit Arturo Sosa from another South American country, Venezuela. (The Black Pope is considered by some to be the most powerful person on the planet.)

Jesuits are deep into the world's banking systems.



I caught that, too.




posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
Jesuits are deep into the world's banking systems.

Thankfully, Jesus gives every mortal the right to judge a person by the fruits they bare.

So if they are good for humanity then put in a good word for them on Judgement Day.

If they are corrupted and working for Lucifer, then condemn them all to the Lake of Fire.

So far the current Pope has proven that they are all working for Lucifer who recently gave them a 6.6 (gift) earthquake near Rome.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

pence- passed legislation that could have blocked gay couples from housing..
trump- taken to court by the state for discriminating against african americans.
Kaine- began his career working for fair housing..

Liberation Theology- christ would come for those in our society, like the gay couples, that were poor, despised, looked down upon.
Dominionists (which pence is)- it's their god given assignment to take dominion over the pillars or society...

Kaine has a rather impressive history of public service... his religion really isn't that obvious.

en.wikipedia.org...


Pence.....conservative radio and tv talk show host, congressman when he was the chairman of the House Republican conference, a "Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order."
Governor of Indiana, signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, and was then forced to sign an bill that ammened it to protect the LBGT community from discrimination. He lobbied and got what has been called the biggest tax cut in Indiana's history. it was followed by big budget cuts from colleges and universities, family and social services, department of corrections.
while he was in office he also sign a law prohibiting local government from requiring businesses to pay more than the federal minimum wage, and repealed a law requiring construction companies working on public funded projects to pay a prevailing wage.

All in all, I think I do see a glimpse of Pence's dominionist beliefs in his policies.

en.wikipedia.org...


But, I 'll just leave this here since I think kaine gives a better description of his missionary work than you or I, or any right wing blog can give!





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