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posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Zanti Misfit


" Open Boarders "




Try again.


Thanks Man , Typo .




posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

If it sucks so bad, why do you keep living there? I mean, there is Colorado, the new prog promised land ... it's right there and there's open borders. Nothing stops you from moving. I assure you ... Kansas won't miss you.


Family ties.

And you aren't even here in Kansas, so what the f is it to you????



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

If there was a public option, it would be a universally affordable option, dramatically more affordable to everyone, where everyone gets a subsidized price and private insurers would be forced to lower their prices to compete.



The bill would set up a government-run health insurance plan with premiums 5% to 7% percent lower than private insurance.


wiki

5% - 7% is dramatically more affordable? Wouldn't erasing the red lines around the states accomplish the same thing without creating a whole new government entity?


The entity is already in place to institute a single-payer plan. 5%-7% is nothing compared to the 30%-40% we could take out of the healthcare costs if we eliminate insurance company profit.


So if there is no profit in it, what is the driver to make the insurance company run efficiently and effectively for the insured?



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

If there was a public option, it would be a universally affordable option, dramatically more affordable to everyone, where everyone gets a subsidized price and private insurers would be forced to lower their prices to compete.



The bill would set up a government-run health insurance plan with premiums 5% to 7% percent lower than private insurance.


wiki

5% - 7% is dramatically more affordable? Wouldn't erasing the red lines around the states accomplish the same thing without creating a whole new government entity?


The entity is already in place to institute a single-payer plan. 5%-7% is nothing compared to the 30%-40% we could take out of the healthcare costs if we eliminate insurance company profit.


So if there is no profit in it, what is the driver to make the insurance company run efficiently and effectively for the insured?


There shouldn't be an insurance company.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:22 PM
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originally posted by: Mitmein
How can you defend HIM, he's a rapist, pedophile, sexist, racist, xenophobe, that makes America look hilarious to the rest of the world. Wake up and smell you white, privileged coffee. a reply to: network dude



Its ok, you can call them honkeys or pinkies or all sorts of stuff... they wont beat you to death. In fact, I married a white. Then again Im not black. Or white. But I have never risked life and limb by offending whitey.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

" What an utterly ridiculous leap of thought........

you have no idea....not the foggiest notion what it is people are talking about. Do you? No. You don't. "



Ok , now it is Up to YOU To Explain to Me Personally , and to Everyone else Posting in this Thread , How my Post describing the Serious Ramifications of a Open Border Policy by a President Elect Hillary Clinton is Somehow in your Mind a " Ridiculous Thought " . If you were just trying to Insult my Intelligence , you FAILED .



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

" What an utterly ridiculous leap of thought........

you have no idea....not the foggiest notion what it is people are talking about. Do you? No. You don't. "



Ok , now it is Up to YOU To Explain to Me Personally , and to Everyone else Posting in this Thread , How my Post describing the Serious Ramifications of a Open Border Policy by a President Elect Hillary Clinton is Somehow in your Mind a " Ridiculous Thought " . If you were just trying to Insult my Intelligence , you FAILED .


A country is its borders.. and without them we have no country.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

If there was a public option, it would be a universally affordable option, dramatically more affordable to everyone, where everyone gets a subsidized price and private insurers would be forced to lower their prices to compete.



The bill would set up a government-run health insurance plan with premiums 5% to 7% percent lower than private insurance.


wiki

5% - 7% is dramatically more affordable? Wouldn't erasing the red lines around the states accomplish the same thing without creating a whole new government entity?


The entity is already in place to institute a single-payer plan. 5%-7% is nothing compared to the 30%-40% we could take out of the healthcare costs if we eliminate insurance company profit.


So if there is no profit in it, what is the driver to make the insurance company run efficiently and effectively for the insured?


There shouldn't be an insurance company.


Instead we have a governmental insurance entity?



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: Advantage

I was Hoping BuzzyWigs would Answer that , but Yes , your are Correct .
edit on 4-11-2016 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

If there was a public option, it would be a universally affordable option, dramatically more affordable to everyone, where everyone gets a subsidized price and private insurers would be forced to lower their prices to compete.



The bill would set up a government-run health insurance plan with premiums 5% to 7% percent lower than private insurance.


wiki

5% - 7% is dramatically more affordable? Wouldn't erasing the red lines around the states accomplish the same thing without creating a whole new government entity?


The entity is already in place to institute a single-payer plan. 5%-7% is nothing compared to the 30%-40% we could take out of the healthcare costs if we eliminate insurance company profit.


So if there is no profit in it, what is the driver to make the insurance company run efficiently and effectively for the insured?


There shouldn't be an insurance company.


Instead we have a governmental insurance entity?


We have a system that pays the bill, not providing insurance.

Insurance is like a casino operation. It only benefits the house.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

If there was a public option, it would be a universally affordable option, dramatically more affordable to everyone, where everyone gets a subsidized price and private insurers would be forced to lower their prices to compete.



The bill would set up a government-run health insurance plan with premiums 5% to 7% percent lower than private insurance.


wiki

5% - 7% is dramatically more affordable? Wouldn't erasing the red lines around the states accomplish the same thing without creating a whole new government entity?


The entity is already in place to institute a single-payer plan. 5%-7% is nothing compared to the 30%-40% we could take out of the healthcare costs if we eliminate insurance company profit.


True, but guess what? Bernie Sanders isn't on the ticket anymore. Hillary doesn't want single payer, she's dedicated to Obamacare. The public option is a compromise to bring in Bernie supporters, but you're a fool if you think its going to bring down the insurance companies.

Obama told us that the ACA would cut costs by $2500 per family per year, and that we could keep our doctors and insurance providers. How's that working out? And why should anyone believe that a public option is going to save us anything considering the current debacle?

Was Obama lying, or was he wrong?



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

If it sucks so bad, why do you keep living there? I mean, there is Colorado, the new prog promised land ... it's right there and there's open borders. Nothing stops you from moving. I assure you ... Kansas won't miss you.


Family ties.

And you aren't even here in Kansas, so what the f is it to you????


"Such a nasty woman."



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

Obama sold-out to the insurance companies by requiring you to buy a corporate product or pay a fine on your taxes. That was his "compromise" with the Republicans that later bit him in the ass.

I don't care what Hillary wants. I'm only talking about what is needed to bring about better care and lower costs.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Advantage

I was Hoping BuzzyWigs would Answer that , but Yes , your are Correct .



Sorry. .it just seemed such as odd thing not to understand! Hell, even back in the stone ages we had little borders on blank papers we had to fill in with what country was what.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Bone75

Obama sold-out to the insurance companies by requiring you to buy a corporate product or pay a fine on your taxes. That was his "compromise" with the Republicans that later bit him in the ass.

I don't care what Hillary wants. I'm only talking about what is needed to bring about better care and lower costs.


Not to mention, by not having the Public Option it allows insurance companies to f*** everyone who can afford to pay for healthcare out of retaliation for the people who qualify for the subsidized healthcare plans. Private Insurers are d**ks, plain & simple. They WANT this to look like a failure. Their game is to bleed out the people on rising premiums until everyone cries uncle. So it can all go back the way it was.

Before Obama, their whole game was finding ways to deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions. D**ks of the highest order! They aren't going down without a fight. Public Option needs to be put back in. And if another Sanders comes along pushing for Single Payer, that person will get my vote too.
edit on 4-11-2016 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: Advantage

If we had no Borders , where would we Buy Books ?



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Advantage

If we had no Borders , where would we Buy Books ?


LOL!



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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When dealing with the enormous greed that is the Private Health Insurance industry.... If a person comes along... a do-gooder with an idea of how to give everyone affordable healthcare, to end pre-existing conditions, and FORCE insurance companies to bring prices DOWN-- or not exist at all.... EXPECT FEAR and LIES of the highest order! They will spare no expense in making you fear affordable healthcare.



posted on Nov, 4 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Bone75

Obama sold-out to the insurance companies by requiring you to buy a corporate product or pay a fine on your taxes. That was his "compromise" with the Republicans that later bit him in the ass.


Wait... what? Please expand on this point. I could use the laugh.


I don't care what Hillary wants. I'm only talking about what is needed to bring about better care and lower costs.


Well I do care what Hillary wants because its very likely she's going to be our next President and I think its crucial for voters to be crystal clear on her positions.

Hillary is not the universal healthcare candidate, she's just another crony fascist disguised as a socialist... just like Obama. She's going to continue forcing people to purchase insurance and she's going to raise the penalties for those who don't.

The question is, do you think the likely empty promise of a 5% - 7% savings is worth risking war with Russia over Syria?



posted on Nov, 5 2016 @ 03:53 AM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Bone75

Obama sold-out to the insurance companies by requiring you to buy a corporate product or pay a fine on your taxes. That was his "compromise" with the Republicans that later bit him in the ass.


Wait... what? Please expand on this point. I could use the laugh.


I don't care what Hillary wants. I'm only talking about what is needed to bring about better care and lower costs.


Well I do care what Hillary wants because its very likely she's going to be our next President and I think its crucial for voters to be crystal clear on her positions.

Hillary is not the universal healthcare candidate, she's just another crony fascist disguised as a socialist... just like Obama. She's going to continue forcing people to purchase insurance and she's going to raise the penalties for those who don't.

The question is, do you think the likely empty promise of a 5% - 7% savings is worth risking war with Russia over Syria?


This!

Listen to this.




The relationship between Vladimir Putin's Russia and the United States has been in the public spotlight throughout the U.S. Presidential election. Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton has repeatedly blamed Russian involvement for many of her campaign blusters and her support of a Syrian no fly zone is a direct threat aimed at Vladimir Putin. Iben Thranholm joins Stefan Molyneux to discuss the nature of the United States conflict with Russia and why we are on the brink of World War III.


She will get us into it with Russia.











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