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Apparently there are many that do not understand the meaning of Revolution

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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:45 PM
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An armed insurrection against the US military is an incredibley dumb idea. Who here remembers the closing days of Desert Storm? Remember the "battle on the highway with Iraqis trying to get back across the boarder? The A10 's ate their lunch. Dozens of cars, trucks, and tanks killed. A handful of misguided civilians wouldn't last 10 minutes.




posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
They might call it a revolution but in reality it will be a race war. It may start out as a movement to restore an ideal but to be soon
coopted by those with more evil intentions.


I can see that too.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Nickn3

An A10 must LAND see my post to see what happens next ,the USAF bases unless augmented by Army are EASY to infiltrate by fire.
NOT enough combat trained troops to guard anything anyway ...they're all rebelling.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Bob Owens...."What you'll see in a rebellion...Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.

Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.

They will be leaderless, stateless, difficult to track, and considering the number of military veterans that would likely be among their number, extremely skilled at sabotage, assassination, and ambush.

After a number of carefully-planned, highly-publicized, and successful raids by the government, one or more will invariably end “badly.” Whether innocents are gunned down, a city block is burned to ash, or especially fierce resistance leads to a disastrously failed raid doesn’t particularly matter. What matters is that when illusion of the government’s invincibility and infallibility is broken, the hunters will become the hunted.

Unnamed citizens and federal agents will be the first to die, and they will die by the dozens and maybe hundreds, but famous politicians will soon join them in a spate of revenge killings, many of which will go unsolved.

Ironically, while the gun grab was intended to keep citizens from preserving their liberties with medium-powered weapons, it completely ignored the longer-ranged rifles perfect for shooting at ranges far beyond what a security detail can protect, and suppressed .22LR weapons proven deadly in urban sniping in Europe and Asia.

While the Secret Service will be able to protect the President in the White House, he will not dare leave his gilded cage except in carefully controlled circumstances. Even then he will be forced to move like a criminal. He will never be seen outdoors in public again. Not in this country.

The 535 members of the House and Senate in both parties that allowed such a law to pass would largely be on their own; the Secret Service is too small to protect all of them and their families, the Capitol Police too unskilled, and competent private security not particularly interested in working against their own best interests at any price. The elites will be steadily whittled down, and if they can not be reached directly, the targets will become their staffers, spouses, children, and grandchildren. Grandstanding media figures loyal to the regime would die in droves, executed as enemies of the Republic.

You can expect congressional staffs to disintegrate with just a few shootings, and expect elected officials themselves to resign well before a quarter of their number are eliminated, leaving us with a boxed-in executive, his cabinet loyalists trapped in the same win, die, or flee the country circumstance, military regime loyalists, and whatever State Governors who desire to risk their necks as well.

Here, the President will doubtlessly order the activation of National Guard units and the regular military to impose martial law, setting the largest and most powerful military in the world against its own people. Unfortunately, the tighter the President clinches his tyrannical fist, the more rebels he makes.

Military commands and federal agencies will be whittled down as servicemen and agents will desert or defect. Some may leave as individuals, others may join the Rebellion in squad and larger-sized units with all their weapons, tactics, skills, and insider intelligence. The regime will be unable to trust its own people, and because they cannot trust them, they will lose more in a vicious cycle of collapse.

Some of these defectors will be true “operators,” with the skills and background to turn ragtag militia cells into the kind of forces that decimate loyalist troops, allowing them no rest and no respite, striking them when they are away from their most potent weapons. Military vehicles are formidable, but they are thirsty beasts, in terms of fuel, ammo, time, and maintenance. Tanks and bombers are formidable only when they have gas, guns, and can be maintained. In a war without a front, logistics are incredibly easy to destroy, and mechanics and supply clerks are not particularly adept at defending themselves.

Eventually, the government will turn upon itself. The President will be captured or perhaps killed by his own protectors. A dictatorship will form in the vacuum.

If we’re lucky, the United States of America, or whatever amalgam results, will again try to rebuild. If we’re very lucky, the victors will reinstate the Constitution as the law of the land. Just as likely though, we’ll face fractious civil wars fought over issues we’ve not begun to fathom, and a much diminished state or states will result, perhaps guided by foreign interests.

It will not be pretty. There will be no “winners,” and perhaps hundreds of thousands to millions of dead.


What will replace this fantasy of yours, a military junta?



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

That sounds like a Bad Movie i can't recall the Name of . Pray that Day Never Comes People !




edit on 30-10-2016 by Zanti Misfit because: spelling



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

We don't care about skin just country, if the SJWs Fired up the brothers ,they would only get their own loosers.


The FIREPOWER of the largest guerilla force on earth IS insurmountable without WMDs.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: cavtrooper7

That sounds like a Bad Movie i can't recall the Name of . Pray that Day Never Comes People !





Thank you.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: BubbaJoe

We don't care about skin just country, if the SJWs Fired up the brothers ,they would only get their own loosers.


The FIREPOWER of the largest guerilla force on earth IS insurmountable without WMDs.


You apparently are way too full of yourself, and have had way to much to drink tonight. Your posts in this thread have been been pure fantasy.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

A dicator ,or a militant if the model is accurate,historically and the US would Balkanized until Texas invaded places to start again.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

But-
Revolution is sometimes inevitable-never pretty-sacrificial-leaves scars-breaks hearts-
but necessary for honor, fairness, continuance of a prided culture and love of one's independence (if that is the desired outcome.)
We are very, very close to such aggravation in every area of our lives that many may feel that the price we pay is necessary.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Nickn3

An A10 must LAND see my post to see what happens next ,the USAF bases unless augmented by Army are EASY to infiltrate by fire.
NOT enough combat trained troops to guard anything anyway ...they're all rebelling.


I am going on the record to say that's a bad idea. If you want to change government, get off you ass and run for office. Vote them out. A civil war is not the way. I don't want to see my grandkids killed in a stupid war.
I don't mind me so much, but I have see War before. It truly is hell.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Who is calling for "armed" revolution here at ATS?

I certainly have not seen many as you claim.

The new media revolution is proving to be sufficent enough to attain a peaceful political revolution so far.

Now if the establishment cracks down on free speech on the internet and make peaceful revolution impossible....


Will not name names, but you have seen it as well. The only one threatening to crack down on free speech is Trump, imagine that.


The Clinton's have people killed for what they could have said about them, so that right there is against free speech. The Clinton crime family have already proven with all those murders that they do NOT support free speech.

edit on 30-10-2016 by NoCorruptionAllowed because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: DBCowboy

But-
Revolution is sometimes inevitable-never pretty-sacrificial-leaves scars-breaks hearts-
but necessary for honor, fairness, continuance of a prided culture and love of one's independence (if that is the desired outcome.)
We are very, very close to such aggravation in every area of our lives that many may feel that the price we pay is necessary.


I am not sure, I pretty get up every morning and do what I want to do all day, until I go to bed, and then I sleep. I am not sure where any caucasion person in the USA has had their rights infringed upon.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: BubbaJoe

A dicator ,or a militant if the model is accurate,historically and the US would Balkanized until Texas invaded places to start again.




So a dictator is okay with you, pretty much tells me that you think the US sucks. The vets I served with would s# on your grave.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

How will YOUR enlightened game play out?



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: Mandroid7
I would love a reference for that. Sounds interesting.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

15% of 300,000,000 is 45,000,000. If they had a common goal, and were trained and organized (those 3 things are the problem) they would do it.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: Justso

Just because revolution is inevitable does not lessen the responsibility of those that pick up arms.

Shooting is easy.

Peace and stability and what comes afterwards?

That's the hard part.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: BubbaJoe

How will YOUR enlightened game play out?


15 rounds in 6 inches at 50 yards and yours?







 
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