Are We Finally Here: is 2020 the End?

a reply to: eisegesis

I believe that something major is happening beneath us that has been causing the sinkholes, sky noise phenomenon & massive gas releases worldwide.

The sky sound phenomenon has been very active this year, i've been keeping tabs of any new videos almost daily and it's crazy how many there are & they are very genuine. The recent video from Jerusalem was a fake which only hurts the genuine reported cases.

I was never a big believer in the doom porn frenzy that led up to 2012 but with the recent activity of massive sinkholes appearing in Siberia & the sheer amount of sounds that are being recorded is unprecedented.

I feel something is on the horizon and it ain't going to be pretty.

The Trump stuff, meh. Although if he does get mortally wounded and returns from the dead I reckon I could be convinced.



I believe the sky sounds are a result of deep waves emanating from beneath the surface and the atmosphere is acting like a speaker.

a reply to: mclarenmp4

The Trump stuff, meh. Although if he does get mortally wounded and returns from the dead I reckon I could be convinced.

I think that is more applicable to Hillary Clinton.

a reply to: AstrocyteLets agree to disagree about Clinton/Trump.Ezekiel 38 seems about to be fulfilled any day now and Daniels prophecies are becoming more clear.The end does seem near.Hillary worries me for her association with Soros,wanting Americans chipped and wanting Religious speech regulated while being pro-islam.At first I was not pro trump either,but after listening to him and seeing videos of him saying the same thing years ago I got past his loud mouth.

This is a great thread, however I think the antichrist has come and gone, but perhaps his minions live on among us. I don't think it's ever been a U.S. President, or an American for that matter. All that stuff is very 'old world'.

The ceiling in Trump's gaudy mansion is interesting, and I'd love to hear his version of what it means. Surely it is a reproduction of a painting?

a reply to: mclarenmp4 Maybe the pit is about to be opened,as in Revelation.Sure seems like time is running out,doesn`t it?

Don't forget, obamas not out of office yet. He still has time to totally screw things up.

originally posted by: Astrocyte
a reply to: ketsuko

What evidence do you have of that? I'm all eyes and ears: if you can bring to a page which shows that (I have been following, but maybe not as closely as you), I am eager to learn.

It's riddled throughout. Ample evidence of pay for play where parties would make large donations to the foundation and then suddenly gain access to the State Dept. while she was Sec. State for example.

There is no one or two emails, but you have to link chains together to see the patterns.

originally posted by: ridgerunner
a reply to: AstrocyteLets agree to disagree about Clinton/Trump.Ezekiel 38 seems about to be fulfilled any day now and Daniels prophecies are becoming more clear.The end does seem near.Hillary worries me for her association with Soros,wanting Americans chipped and wanting Religious speech regulated while being pro-islam.At first I was not pro trump either,but after listening to him and seeing videos of him saying the same thing years ago I got past his loud mouth.

I don't try to pin labels like anti-Christ on people. When that person appears, no one is going to think he or she is the one. People will WANT to take the mark. That person is the grand deceiver, not someone everyone loathes. Half the time, I think the impulse to label someone you don't like as the anti-Christ is born out of the desire to believe you're going to be so clever that you won't be deceived by the real one.

a reply to: ketsuko

Basically every politician does that - making Hillary no fundamentally different than other politicians.

Yes, but even Bernie Sanders - who rightly questioned her connections to Wall Street - can see the difference between questionable corruption (Clinton) and doubtless, frequent corruption (Trump).

So while Clintons emails show an indication of "badness", it is really no different from all the other politicians who, wanting to make a name for themselves, enter politics to do some good, find out that the people who win tend to be people who receive robust financial support from business and banking.

Sometimes, what we see as corruption is a system effect: people 'caught up' in a way of doing things while wanting to do things differently. Yet still doing things they've tend to do it i.e. because of the provoking influence of the system they are structurally 'bound' to.

I do not for a second think Clinton is as essentially evil, careless and narcissistic as Donald Trump. Your eyes literally do not lie: Clinton controls herself because she is simply more mental (i.e. morally) disciplined than Trump is - who, being a business man, comes from an EVEN MORE ROTTEN world than the one politicans come from.

When Trump bandies the idea of "politics being disgusting" it amazes me how people don't realize the direction that corrupting influences tend to move i.e. from the private sphere to the public sphere.

a reply to: Astrocyte

Please, do not ever use "Hillary Clinton" and "moral" in the same sentence. It offends me.

We are talking about a woman who served as lawyer for a child rapist and got him off and them laughed about it afterward knowing full well he was guilty.

a reply to: ketsuko

You take things too far with Clinton - as everyone around here does.

Trump, I have no problem associating the word "evil" with, because he essentially manifests it to the T.

If you study psychology, the brain, and human behavior, people are not as "in control" as conspiracy theorists (typically not very educated or well read people, to be frank) like to believe.

Clinton - yes - has some strange stuff tacked to her; but what of her historical interest in early childhood education? All those times she talks to scientists about Human development, or social development, this is just her being clever?

Again, you attribute too much ability to people. Humans who are essentially 'evil' (careless, immoral) tend to give themselves away by not being disciplined enough to control the expression of their behavior - this is Trump to a T.

Clinton, conversely, may be a lesbian, or what have you, but I cannot - unless I pass over into hardcore cynic territory - believe that everything I see of her is a display, or an act, as if the Human condition didn't afflict her as much as it does me or anyone else.

Posting at this site, or interfacing with the views of people at this site for too long, can have ugly consequences for a persons psychological maturity.

a reply to: Astrocyte

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This is a theory regarding the Tribulation beginning in Fall 2017 and ending in Fall 2024.

Here is a rundown of reasons the Tribulation could begin in 2017:

1.) It is 70 years from the United Nations' decree to reestablish Israel (Resolution 181).

2.) It is a complete Jubilee-cycle from the 1967 conquest of Jerusalem (1967 + 49 + Jubilee year = 2017).

3.) If the Tribulation starts in Fall 2017, then that is in the 70th Jewish year from the rebirth of Israel in 1948. Alternatively, it is in the 69th biblical year from the rebirth of Israel, which would be a powerful symbol of the fact that the world would be about to enter Daniel's 70th week.

4.) 2017 to 2024 offers the only timeline in recent memory where the Tribulation of 2550 days could begin unquestionably on a Fall Feast date and end on a Fall Feast date. In fact, the alignment is kind of shocking: exactly 2550 days fits with the Tribulation beginning on the last day of the last Fall Feast (Tabernacles, October 11th, 2017) and ending on the first day of the first Fall Feast (Rosh Hashanah, October 4th, 2024). This is particularly interesting in light of the likely possibility Jesus will fulfill the final three Fall Feasts in short, subsequent order while on earth, just as He fulfilled the Spring Feasts. The Second Coming could be on the Feast of Trumpets in 2024, allowing Jesus to fulfill that feast, followed 10 days later by a fulfillment of the Day of Atonement, and 5 days after that by a fulfillment of the Feast of Tabernacles.

5.) Bolstering point #4, the Fall Feasts in both 2017 and 2024 occur after the autumnal equinoxes, so in those years there need be no doubt about when the Feasts begin. No need to add an additional month as some were suggesting we might have needed to do in 2015. Even going by a Karaite calendar, the 2550 days would still fit, simply adding 2 days to 10/11/17 and 2 days to 10/4/24.

6.) Passover, the traditional date for the Abomination of Desolation, falls approximately 1260 days after 10/11/17 and approximately 1290 days before 10/4/24. As a matter of fact, 1260 days after 10/11/17 is 3/24/21, just 3-4 days before Passover... this fits perfectly with the Two Witnesses' 1260 day ministry (Revelation 11:3) followed by their lying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days (Revelation 11:9).

7.) The Revelation 12 sign on Rosh Hashanah 2017: while Revelation 12 certainly describes some events occurring in the middle of the Tribulation, we need to pay careful attention to Revelation 12:3. When we say "Revelation 12 sign" we are really referring to the first "Revelation 12 sign" (woman clothed with the sun, moon at her feet, pregnant, and crown of 12 stars). Most people completely miss that the second sign, which begins in verse 3, is the only sign that is for sure identified with the middle of the Tribulation (dragon about to devour the child before the woman flees). The fact that there are two signs and not one is telling. Also, it is only after the woman flees that the last half of the Tribulation begins (Revelation 12:6).

8) 2024 is year 6000 since Creation according to Johannes Kepler, who was the founder of modern astronomy (developed the laws of planetary motion). He pinpointed 3977 BC as the year of Creation. Since there is no year '0', 2024 would be exactly year 6000 since Creation (if his biblical calculations were correct).

11.) Daniel 12:12 adds an additional 45 days at the very end of the 1290 days, for a total of 1335 days. Amazingly, exactly 45 days from the possible 10/4/24 Second Coming date is Cheshvan 17, the same day in history that the Great Flood began (Genesis 7:11). This may in fact be the day that Christ's global judgment is completed.


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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Astrocyte

You really have not been paying attention to the Wikileaks have you?

Her progressivism is her public face, not her private one. She is every bit the corporate kleptocrat in bed with the big banker oligarchs you so claim to hate.

This election is clearly about deciding on which candidate is not the Antichrist.

They both project trickery and illusions onto the viewer to try and trick you into believing that the other candidate is the real Antichrist.

One of them really is the Antichrist and the other is just a bad choice for our president.

I think this election is all about trying to figure out who's-who - and hope that you don't get tricked, or schlonged.

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Everybody is the antichrist.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Astrocyte

Please, do not ever use "Hillary Clinton" and "moral" in the same sentence. It offends me.

We are talking about a woman who served as lawyer for a child rapist and got him off and them laughed about it afterward knowing full well he was guilty.

It's a lawyer's job to defend their client. If you were accused of rape, you'd appreciate that fact.

Hillary Clinton is intelligent and moralistic. She will be an excellent president.

a reply to: infolurker

I'm sure you're off by atleast 3 yrs.

a reply to: Astrocyte

Yeah, you're not convincing anyone that the prophecy will be averted by electing the whore of babylon. In fact, I believe that is a prerequisite for antichrist Kaine to come to power. If you do believe in the prophecy, you wouldn't believe that there is anything you can do to change it, if Trump is the antichrist that means no matter what you do he will be president.

The dinner party Hillary attended, where her and Trump roasted each other, her dress color was particular, scarlet? The scarlet woman? That has some religious connotations, especially standing next to a cardinal. That wouldn't make her the antichrist, but it definitely doesn't make her anything close to a savior.

And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters Revelation 17:1-14

originally posted by: Astrocyte
to stop Hillary (or what she represents), the elite have put an obscene, low-brow buffoon at the front, while at the same time denouncing any relationship to him.

If the elite's wanted to stop Hillary they would have put someone (anyone) other than Trump in competition with her. She is the elite's candidate though so why would they want to stop her? If Trump is a ringer he's there to fail, allowing Clinton to win.

originally posted by: Astrocyte
right now, the most we have heard (as To Clintons supposed "corruption) is a disgusting ex-scandal involving the husband of her aid.

What about the disgusting scandals involving her own husband? And it's not an ex-scandal, it's still a scandal, it's disgusting that you would try and label it as anything else.

This is the worst attempt at a thinly veiled Trump bashing thread I've seen yet and this is coming from someone that hates people like Trump!

Nm.