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City vs Rural in election

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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 05:57 PM
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I know we all have been watching the news and all the polls which none of really believes, I had a good discussion on why Democrats due so well in the Populated area like large cities and the Republicans do a lot better in Rural areas.

After a long discussion we all were back to square one. So I am asking ATS to help me understand why this is so. Here is a list of what we came up with but this is looking at it from a Rural area, (side note: I lived in large city for 22 years of my life)

1. Free handouts/ programs ect
2. Fast pace of life
3. Not keeping up with news (due to #2)
4. Keeping up with the Jones across the street
5. Income gap
6. (no offense to anyone) Don't really know the meaning of hard work ( Farming, Logging ect)
7. 9-5 Job
8. Luxury of having everything at their disposable with in a short distance
9. (again no offense to anyone) Liberals, don't shoot the wolfs, bears ,deer ect, they really don't see what damage they can do living rural
10 Everyone just believes the local news and papers with out researching further

Ok the top ten list, but why is there such a disconnect between Rural living and the City when it comes to the Republicans and Democrats ?




posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: 19KTankCommander

PA is a perfect example. Philly and Pittsburgh are blue and the center of the state along with everything else that surrounds the two big cities are red.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: 19KTankCommander

Rats in a Maze Vs Bunnies in an Open Field . Who is More Aware ? Hmm....



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: 19KTankCommander

Actually that's a really interesting take because I also have a lot of experience in both big city and rural and I agree with some of what you say but I also see...

In the city, large corporations with a lot of different ethnicities, definitely holidays observed, and everyone working together, respecting all these different cultures... and in rural.. whole lotta white christian people with quasi racist views of blacks, hispanics, and middle eastern. And also a lot more people slurping up the daily fear porn on the mainstream news, be it Fox, CNN, etc.

But really good people in the midwest. Their quasi racism isnt hate so much as it is a natural ignorance from simply being around mostly white people.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: GraffikPleasure
a reply to: 19KTankCommander

PA is a perfect example. Philly and Pittsburgh are blue and the center of the state along with everything else that surrounds the two big cities are red.


I'm in the middle and I literally haven't seen 1 Hilary sign. I've seen thousands of Trump signs.

Weirdly I do travel to Philly often and in my travels there I've seen 5 Hilary bumper stickers even closer to the city. Feels odd like there should be more. However my travel is either to the airport or the sports complex.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:04 PM
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and lets not forget that criminal types enjoy the anonymity of living in a big city where they can hide from the police in plain sight among tens of thousands of other people.

in rural areas everybody recognizes everyone else,so if you commit a crime and someone sees you chances are pretty darn high that they will be able to identify you to the police by name.
in a big city you could commit a crime 5 blocks from your home and nobody will be able to identify you to the police.
of course the other big disadvantage of pursuing a criminal career in a rural area is that a lot of people own guns so your career will be short lived.

lazy people don`t live in rural areas because well, they are lazy, they prefer to live in cities where everything is done for them,the city plows the snow, cuts the grass, etc. and if you`re too lazy to cook there`s a fast food place a block away.
if you were born and raised in a rural area and you grow up to be lazy you don`t stay in a rural area you move to a city.lazy people natural gravitate to cities where they don`t have to do anything or travel far to acquire the basic necessities for survival.
lazy people don`t want to work either so naturally they vote for the democrat who promises them the most free stuff.
since most of the lazy people have already gravitated to the cities naturally cities tend to vote for democrats who give them free stuff,and voting is no trouble there`s practically a voting booth on every corner,so they can vote while they are on their way down to the corner to pick up their welfare check.
There probably are some lazy people in rural areas but they tend to not vote at all because it`s just too darn much trouble to spend all that time driving all that distance to the voting place and back.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

What's wrong with any of that? It's the 21st century, people have gone into various industries to provide goods and services like food. We've figured out how to increase population density. All of this results in having more free time to do the things you want to do in life rather than having to spend 2 or 3 hours dealing with something as simple as meals every day.

Lazy people are the ones who figure out how to create more free time. Who wants to plow snow or cut grass when they could spend their time working out, or reading, or learning, or some other method of self improvement?



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Tardacus

What's wrong with any of that? It's the 21st century, people have gone into various industries to provide goods and services like food. We've figured out how to increase population density. All of this results in having more free time to do the things you want to do in life rather than having to spend 2 or 3 hours dealing with something as simple as meals every day.

Lazy people are the ones who figure out how to create more free time. Who wants to plow snow or cut grass when they could spend their time working out, or reading, or learning, or some other method of self improvement?


When was the last time you picked up a fishing pole, whittled a stick, filled a hunting tag, picked wild berries, nursed a beer sitting by a bonfire in your back yard, or went for a quick hike after work?



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

but lazy people don`t care about doing those things, how much self improvement has been happening in Chicago for example?
breaking last years record for murders is hardly positive self improvement.if anything,lazy people have too much free time and you know what they say about free time " idle hands are the devils workshop"



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
When was the last time you picked up a fishing pole


25 years ago when my dad took me fishing. I've since grown to dislike it. It probably doesn't help that I don't like fish.


whittled a stick


Never. I don't do things just to do them. I am perfectly content to sit and do nothing other than be alone with my thoughts.


filled a hunting tag


Never. Killing is wrong.


picked wild berries


Never.


nursed a beer sitting by a bonfire in your back yard


Never. I don't drink. Occasionally I get some hot tea and watch the birds in my back yard though. I assume that's a similar experience. I like watching birds. Birds are awesome.


or went for a quick hike after work?


I have no idea honestly, unless you count dog walks. I enjoy watching dogs find wonder in every blade of grass, fence post, and other object they come across outdoors. Dogs are really cool animals, more so than birds even. But back on topic, I have a pretty busy life. Between school/homework about 90 hours a week are accounted for, the rest is sleeping time.


originally posted by: Tardacus
but lazy people don`t care about doing those things


I don't know about that. I'm the laziest person I've ever met.

While it's not a good thing what's happening in Chicago, those people aren't lazy. They're going around inventing reasons to kill each other, and then doing so. It takes work to be a criminal. Murders, thefts, fencing, banking, drug running... it's non stop work.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

We are from extremely different worlds, my friend.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 09:44 PM
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The election is rigged. Rural voters get more electorates per capita.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: Throes

Yes, there are tons of Trump signs. I do see quite a few hrc bumper stickers.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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I think it is more of a case of Rural people being out of touch with modern society/culture.

It's no fault of their own, but major population centers are where culture and society develop...it takes awhile for it to filter into the Rural areas.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 10:21 PM
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originally posted by: imjack
The election is rigged. Rural voters get more electorates per capita.


It isn't rigged, it's called a representative Republic.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Suuuuure, that's why it makes sense to give some peoples vote more power than others.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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originally posted by: kruphix
I think it is more of a case of Rural people being out of touch with modern society/culture.

It's no fault of their own, but major population centers are where culture and society develop...it takes awhile for it to filter into the Rural areas.



Condescending and Arrogant much? The social and cultural values of rural America are already well developed and require no filtering down from the urban hells dotting the landscape.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Suuuuure, that's why it makes sense to give some peoples vote more power than others.


No, your confusing a direct democracy with the definition of a representative Republic. The US system isn't rigged to advantage rural voters, it simply isn't the system YOU want it to be.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: GraffikPleasure
a reply to: Throes

Yes, there are tons of Trump signs. I do see quite a few hrc bumper stickers.


I am not being biased, I know Hilary voters, just haven't seen any signs/stickers



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

I'm not incorrect at all. The exact terminology is that if you're not from a rural state, your vote has less 'power'. Defining it doesn't make it false.

Nothing wrong with that either. Unless you care about the people being 'equal'.
edit on 30-10-2016 by imjack because: (no reason given)



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