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Hillary Clinton Emails - What Lies Beneath

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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 01:52 AM
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The Hillary email scandal has a few people scratching their heads regarding what it all means, so I will lay out the facts - and the logical conclusions. Central to this scandal is the Clinton Foundation, and this was set up long ago. The Clintons have had extremely high volumes of very large donations into the fund, from some very unexpected sources - why are foreign govts giving so generously to the Clintons?

When Hillary became Secretary of State (Sos), she set up a private email server in her basement. All official emails that she should send and receive for her role as SoS would be marked .gov and would reside on servers controlled by the government. That means if she was ever investigated, then all of those emails could be routinely accessed by the FBI. Her private server however, would safely store incriminating emails away from prying eyes.

Hillary was in a position as SoS to approve and facilitate weapon sales to foreign govts, foreign govts such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Morrocco and many other regimes with dubious intentions, and more dubious track records - many of these states have previously had limitations imposed on the amount of arms they could purchase from US sellers.

The State Dept. under Hillary Clinton approved massive sales of $29 billion in fighter aircraft to Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi's put at least $900,000 into the Clinton Foundation. However, that is just the tip of the iceberg.

"Under Clinton's leadership, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation, according to an IBTimes analysis of State Department and foundation data. That figure -- derived from the three full fiscal years of Clinton’s term as Secretary of State (from October 2010 to September 2012) -- represented nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries and approved by the State Department during the same period of President George W. Bush’s second term.

In all, governments and corporations involved in the arms deals approved by Clinton’s State Department have delivered between $54 million and $141 million to the Clinton Foundation as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments to the Clinton family, according to foundation and State Department records. The Clinton Foundation publishes only a rough range of individual contributors’ donations, making a more precise accounting impossible."
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When it was discovered that Hillary Clinton had a private email server, she was subpoenaed by the FBI - requiring her to relinquish all data from the server, and also all mobile devices. Instead of complying with the valid subpoena from the FBI, she arranged the destruction of her many mobile devices - some with hammers, according to the FBI. In addition, Clinton's hired IT professional wiped an alleged 33,000 emails from her server .. claiming they were simply private family/friend related emails - however, as an additional measure a program called 'Bleach Bit' was used to render the emails unrecoverable by any means.

If Clinton was innocent - then these measures seem extraordinary and there are many questions. We also have to ask why the FBI did not simply seize the evidence instead of telegraphing its move with a subpoena. Emails released by Wikileaks probably supply an answer - Clinton enjoyed a close relationship with the Dept. of Justice, and she was warned ahead of time of all moves they made in the investigation - and it appears they may have been able to pressure the FBI to use a subpoena instead of seizing evidence.

Clintons closest personal aide or assistant was Huma Abedin .. whose husband Anothony Weiner came under FBI investigation for sexting an underage girl. Weiners laptop was seized by the FBI as part of that investigation - however it seems that Huma had also used the device.

Yesterday, the FBI director Comey then sent a letter to the Congress informing them he had new evidence, and there are rumors from sources inside the FBI that the laptop in question contains tens of thousands of emails between Clinton and Huma.

In short, it seems very likely that the Anthony Weiner laptop contains the same email chains that Hillary destroyed from her server with Bleach Bit - and that these emails will record how she abused the office of Secretary of State to sell weapons to foreign governments. Not because it was in the interests of the people of the USA, in fact many of the nations who received weapons are agents of terrorism. These sales may have an ongoing impact on the safety of the Middle East, Europe and also on the safety of US citizens and interests in the region.

Simply put - it seems most likely that the emails on Weiners laptop will contain very damning evidence - enough to destroy any chance of a Clinton presidency, and enough to send her, Bill, Huma .. and .. others, away for a long time. Wikileaks email dumps from Podesta also reveal that Obama had emailed Hillary on her private server with a non official email address (no .gov) - which strongly implies he knew about it, and there may be evidence which connects him to Hillary's deals. Considering the potential names associated with this scandal - it will be interesting to see how Comey withstands the pressure.

The Clintons however have enjoyed a remarkable ability to wriggle their way out of some very tight spots .. whether justice will finally catch up with them is an open question that only time will tell.
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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 02:37 AM
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Another possible angle on this story is the sudden back tracking on the sanctions on Iran, negotiated by Hillary and approved by Obama. In addition to the removal of critical sanctions, there was a definite relaxation of rules imposed on Iran regarding its nuclear program (specifically power generation).

Around the same time there was a payment of $1.3 billion dollars from the US to IranSource, with an initial cash payment of $400 million. This was apparently cash - loaded onto pallets and flown to Tehran in the middle of the night. There seems to be at least two not very credible - or rather fishy as hell - reasons being proposed for these payments. Firstly that it was a payment in order to secure the release of American prisoners from Iran - but details regarding these hostages do not seem to be available. What were their names, what were the circumstances of their capture and detention - and why such a huge payment? The second reason I haven encountered is that it was to fulfill a prior contract dating back to 1979 regarding the delivery of fighter jets Source. The jets were apparently never delivered .. but why now? Why the secrecy? In addition, there is a rumor that Iran requested the release of Iranian prisoners from the US .. and their demand was met. Source

This arrangement was subject to some very unusual and extreme security measures, and the relevant documents were placed in a holding room to which basically nobody is allowed access. Those who are allowed access are not permitted to carry any kind of recording devices.

The logical conclusion is that Iran may have come into possession of damning evidence against Hillary and perhaps also against Obama himself - and that Iran used these documents as leverage in order to negotiate what are otherwise very strange and inexplicable deals.
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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 03:04 AM
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S+F!

Thanks for posting this, it's especially handy for those who live outside the US and missed out on much of the backstory until now.

The true motto of the Hillary Campaign should be changed to "How low can I go?"




posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 04:37 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi

There is another aspect to this as well .. the MSM reporting of the email scandal was almost non existent, and Hillary also had close support by the media throughout her campaign. If this scenario proves to be true and Comey does press charges - then it will most likely be RICO (racketeering), however jailing a few low level news reporters and perhaps fining the MSM juggernaut will do nothing to protect democracy in the future .. didn't we learn the dangers of bias and propaganda from Nazi Germany in WWII?

These media empires pose a real and present danger to democratic processes across the world .. they must be broken up, and the directors must also bear the full weight of legal responsibility. The powers that the NWO has invested in the executive branch of govt no doubt were meant for nefarious purpose - however if Trump wins and is able to survive, then he may be able to turn those powers against the enemy .. that is of course if Trump actually turns out to be on our side. Given the state of play it seems most likely that Trump is not part of the NWO so there is reason for hope.
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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 04:40 AM
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Well, the clintons corrupt every thing they touch.

Look at Travelgate. Sheesh, a travel agency.

Their scummy fingers are in so many pockets and pies it's crazy.

Molyneux hit's 3 of them. One is about the ransom.




Stefan Molyneux explains the latest details in the Hillary Clinton FBI Investigation, what may have forced James Comey's hand, Anthony Weiners involvement, the role of Huma Abedin, U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch "pleading the 5th" on the Iran Ransom controversy and audio evidence of Hillary Clinton suggesting the rigging of a foreign election.










posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 05:07 AM
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That seems to cover most of the basics nicely.

The trouble I'm having is: If Anthony Weiner's devices were just recently seized, than how come Trump knew about it in August 2015?! "Anthony Weiner will tell the world".

Back then the statement seemed odd but nothing dramatic. As though he was simply saying "Hey, Huma's pervert husband is a blackmail risk."

Now after all the drama after those remarks vis a vis the FBI's non-investigation investigation and lackluster conclusion back in July, suddenly we are to believe the FBI "just" uncovered these devices and emails. Specifically from the exact person Trump said "would tell the world".

There's coincidence and than there's something else. This is something else. Yet, tragically I can't find a discussion about it. Very troubling.

Reminds me of Larry Silverstein comment "pulled it" on 911. Or the BBC reporting the collapse of building 7 while it was still standing in the background.
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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 05:28 AM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
That seems to cover most of the basics nicely.

The trouble I'm having is: If Anthony Weiner's devices were just recently seized, than how come Trump knew about it in August 2015?! "Anthony Weiner will tell the world".

Back then the statement seemed odd but nothing dramatic. As though he was simply saying "Hey, Huma's pervert husband is a blackmail risk."

Now after all the drama after those remarks vis a vis the FBI's non-investigation investigation and lackluster conclusion back in July, suddenly we are to believe the FBI "just" uncovered these devices and emails. Specifically from the exact person Trump said "would tell the world".

There's coincidence and than there's something else. This is something else. Yet, tragically I can't find a discussion about it. Very troubling.

Reminds me of Larry Silverstein comment "pulled it" on 911. Or the BBC reporting the collapse of building 7 while it was still standing in the background.




It's no big stretch to believe weiner would be a risk given his antics.

I'm surprised hillary has never cleaned up that loose end.


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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: burgerbuddy

So we just chalk it to coincidence then ?

Mmmm, doubt it.
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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 06:09 AM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: burgerbuddy

So we just chalk it to coincidence then ?

Mmmm, doubt it.



Sorry, not following. What coincidence?

Oh, no, Trump could see a problem with huma being married to weiner and what he likes to do.

I've also said that Huma would be the one to get to, to get hillary.

Poor Huma.








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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

No so much coincidence, but more along the lines of some good foresight.

Trump knows Huma was Hillary's right hand, If anyone know the criminal activities going down, it would definitely be Huma. Since Huma was married Anthony, who know what was talked about in private. We all as humans tend to confide in our significant others ALL manners of things that we would never tell anyone else.

So yeah, not much stretch to put Anthony as the straw that breaks the camels back. With his legal mishaps and him being close enough, but far enough away to spill the beans in an attempt to save his own behind. Unfortunately it went a different direction and the FBI just happened across pertinent info in their investigation of Anthony.
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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

This is a big hmmmmmmm. So many dirty fingers all intertwined again for money and power and be damned who gets killed, maimed, destroyed in their trail of destruction.

Almost beyond my-well it is beyond my ability to reconstruct as you guys have for me. Big s&f to you all.

Ya'll are the best of the best of the best. Many thanks for putting the puzzles together for us all.

Now spread the word.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:01 AM
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originally posted by: Amagnon
a reply to: Kalixi

These media empires pose a real and present danger to democratic processes across the world .. they must be broken up, and the directors must also bear the full weight of legal responsibility.


The corporate owned news media are like a cartel. They either need to be destroyed altogether or as you suggest broken up into competitive little pieces.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:15 AM
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a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

"Not so much coincidence than foresight"

"Not MUCH of a stretch" so more like a tight pair of Haines stretch than a wedgie perhaps.

In politics any kind of coincidence is worth looking into.

We can see the grip we have on the world let alone our own nation. Would they really let someone like Trump get this far if he didn't have a handler? Think about it.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:40 AM
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Never mind.
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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

We can see the grip we have on the world let alone our own nation. Would they really let someone like Trump get this far if he didn't have a handler? Think about it.



Well, it does not take more than a few seconds of thought to dispose of your question. You beg the question that Trump has a handler. The whole point that many claim about his candidacy is that he is independent of the NWO. You may find that difficult to believe because you have been conditioned to believe that the NWO controls all sides of the political debate in the USA. You need to revaluate whether that is still true, for there is absolutly NO evidence that Trump is a puppet. The fact that he has not been removed from the election campaign by one means or another is NOT unambiguous evidence that he is controlled. Rather, it is, more plausibly, evidence that the NWO shadow govermnent could not risk removing him as a candidate because such drastic action would be too obvious and would be quickly traced back to the "house of cards" that it represents, with catastrophic consequences to itself.

So your argument really has no force because it begs the vital question, ignoring a far more realistic alternative.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: micpsi

Talk about assumptions.

Those who control power are indeed shadowy and own no alligence to one party or another. Countless presidents have even said so.

The actual stage actors are the ones who fight for media time and public office and enjoy their own personal empowerments.

With a nation as strategically and powerfully important as the US, it won't be handed or allowed to be handed back to the people. Believe what you want though.



posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:00 AM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: micpsi

Talk about assumptions.

Those who control power are indeed shadowy and own no alligence to one party or another. Countless presidents have even said so.

The actual stage actors are the ones who fight for media time and public office and enjoy their own personal empowerments.

With a nation as strategically and powerfully important as the US, it won't be handed or allowed to be handed back to the people. Believe what you want though.



So hillary and Trump both know who is controlling them?

Are they the same person or persons doing it?

Do we know them?

A name or 2 would be nice.




posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:04 AM
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Its also worth noting that the Clinton Foundation is as charitable as it legally has to be .. with only 5.7% spending on charity work.source Apparently that figure is legally above the required thresh hold to qualify for all the benefits available to charities .. which we assume are tax breaks etc. In other words its really an investment and slush fund. Clinton's and hanger's on can draw nice salaries from it in order to launder the incoming money.


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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: micpsi

Talk about assumptions.

Those who control power are indeed shadowy and own no alligence to one party or another. Countless presidents have even said so.

The actual stage actors are the ones who fight for media time and public office and enjoy their own personal empowerments.

With a nation as strategically and powerfully important as the US, it won't be handed or allowed to be handed back to the people. Believe what you want though.



So hillary and Trump both know who is controlling them?

Are they the same person or persons doing it?

Do we know them?

A name or 2 would be nice.



The most likely globalist 'sugar daddy' for the Clinton's is ex-Nazi collaborator, vulture fund capitalist, and owner of all the electronic voting machines used in the US Presidential elections - the Golem aka. George Soros. There are a host of connections between them, and he seems to be the most visible puppet master in this case.
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posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:13 AM
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