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Trump and Whats Next - Scion, TrumpTV and Pepe the new TP owning GOP

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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 09:26 AM
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First off...

On Polls
Trump's team knows the Polls are real, but it does not serve their post-election plan to acknowledge it.
They want their followers to buy into the rigged election meme as that will keep them mobilized for post election monetization.
Any concession speech will be not be a concession, but rather a "rigged system" speech. He wants his followers to stay angry and mobilized for monetization purposes.

Parscale is Trump's head of Digital Marketing, close family friend and DeFacto campaign head since Mantafort flamed out.


Despite Trump’s claim that he doesn’t believe the polls, his San Antonio research team spends $100,000 a week on surveys (apart from polls commissioned out of Trump Tower) and has sophisticated models that run daily simulations of the election.

The results mirror those of the more reliable public forecasters—in other words, Trump’s staff knows he’s losing. Badly. “Nate Silver’s results have been similar to ours,” says Parscale, referring to the polling analyst and his predictions at FiveThirtyEight, “except they lag by a week or two because he’s relying on public polls.”


On current strategy...not appeal to the middle, but suppress voter turn-out through highly targeted negative advertising to constituencies Hillary needs.


To compensate for this, Trump’s campaign has devised another strategy, which, not surprisingly, is negative.

Instead of expanding the electorate, Bannon and his team are trying to shrink it.

“We have three major voter suppression operations under way,” says a senior official. They’re aimed at three groups Clinton needs to win overwhelmingly: idealistic white liberals, young women, and African Americans.

Trump’s invocation at the debate of Clinton’s WikiLeaks e-mails and support for the Trans-Pacific Partnership was designed to turn off Sanders supporters.

The parade of women who say they were sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton and harassed or threatened by Hillary is meant to undermine her appeal to young women.

And her 1996 suggestion that some African American males are “super predators” is the basis of a below-the-radar effort to discourage infrequent black voters from showing up at the polls—particularly in Florida.


The RNC Heist and Project Alamo
Trump's team built a massive digital network of contacts, small donors...email, FB profiles etc of the emerging Alt-Right and general populist movement (Project Alamo is what his team termed this data gathering)
This is the young, angry, anti-PC conservatives and an rapidly emerging market.

Once Trump agreed to work with the RNC they got full access to all of the RNC's data and contact lists...More traditional and mainstream conservatives, but still a large chunk of Trumpites that they had not tapped.

Combined, Trump now has more of a network of donors, activists, contacts and profiles than the RNC does...and he can mobilize them..for either a media network or a political movement post election.

This is like the TP hijack of GOP...but Bigger, more populist and Alt-Right leaning.


Digital strategists typically value contact lists at $3 to $8 per e-mail, which would price Trump’s list of supporters anywhere from $36 million to $112 million.

The Trump enterprise could benefit from it in any number of ways. The easiest move would be for Trump to partner with Bannon’s global Breitbart News Network, which already has a grip on the rising generation of populist Republicans. Along with a new venture, Trump would gain a platform from which to carry on his movement, built upon the millions of names housed in Project Alamo. “This is the pipe that makes the connection between Trump and the people,” says Bannon. “He has an apparatus that connects him to an ever-expanding audience of followers.”

As it happens, this cross-pollination of right-wing populist media and politics is already occurring overseas—and Trump’s influence on it is unmistakable.

If the election results cause the party to fracture, Trump will be better positioned than the RNC to reach this mass of voters because he’ll own the list himself—and Priebus, after all he’s endured, will become just the latest to invest with Trump and wind up poorer for the experience.


The implication either way is that a Trump loss is not the end of the Trump movement...brace yourself for a TP v.2 like movement, but bigger and angrier, more populist.

Inside the Trump Bunker, With 12 Days to Go (Great Read)

On Scion...It means child of a prominent family.
Trumps name, which is his Brand and source of income, is shot.
Foot traffic at Hotels bearing the Trump name is down 20-40%


Trump the candidate has been tarnishing Trump the brand for at least a year. Macy’s, Perfumania, Serta and the PGA severed ties soon after he kicked off his candidacy with a speech that accused Mexico of sending criminals and rapists to the U.S.


What to do...Quietly start a new brand ..."Scion" to replace the Trump name


For decades, everything sold by the company — even the water and the sheets — bore the Trump name. Last month, though, the company did an about-face, launching a hotel brand — Scion — that will offer the Trump experience minus the Trump moniker.

“We wanted a name that would be a nod to the Trump family and to the tremendous success it has had with its businesses, including Trump Hotels, while allowing for a clear distinction between our luxury and lifestyle brands,” Trump Hotels CEO Eric Danziger said in a press release.

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On TrumpTV
Interestingly it began as a threat made to Fox News when Roger Ailes was there...Improve your coverage and get Megyn Kelly in line or we might take our followers and launch a competitive network and eat your lunch.


According to a source close to Trump, the idea of a Trump TV network originated during the Republican primaries as a threat Kushner issued to Roger Ailes when Trump’s inner circle was unhappy with the tenor of Fox News’s coverage. The warring factions eventually reconciled. But Trump became enamored by the power of his draw after five media companies expressed interest. “One thing Jared always tells Donald is that if the New York Times and cable news mattered, he would be at 1 percent in the polls,” says the source. “Trump supporters really don’t have a media outlet where they feel they’re represented—CNN has gone fully against Trump, MSNBC is assumed to be against Trump, and Fox is somewhere in the middle. What we found is that our people have organized incredibly well on the web. Reddit literally had to change their rules because it was becoming all Trump. Growing the digital footprint has really allowed us to take his message directly to the people.”

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There is a lot there...But I think it gives a good preview of what to expect Post election from the Trump movement.

Thoughts?

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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

This also explains why Chaffetz has flip-flopped and announced he has dozens of "investigations" lined up for Hillary Clinton if she wins and he will now be voting for Donald Trump, despite condemning him publicly and saying he wouldn't endorse him just a week ago.

Trump is going to spearhead the new TP-like movement to challenge the mainstream GOP in DC. GOP in congress are going to have choose sides. They will go full populist or hold to their principles...But either way war is coming in a big way for the GOP in DC. It will make the TP insurrection look petty. Chaffetz is Trump's best tool to punish Hillary after a loss and Chaffetz has agreed.

Jason Chaffetz Says He'll Vote For Trump After Unendorsing Him Because Words Have No Meaning
theslot.jezebel.com...


House Republicans are already preparing for ‘years’ of investigations of Clinton

www.washingtonpost.com... 980-50913d68eacb_story.html



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 09:41 AM
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S&F!!!

Great connecting of the dots- - I'd heard disparate parts of this, but hadn't put them all together, and with the information that they KNOW the polls are accurate (and Kellyanne Conway is a pollster for crying out loud - she knows!) then the post-election cries of "fraud" and "lock her up" and "rally around the Trump" are frightening echoes if you know your history...

Excellent work.

- AB



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: AboveBoard

It was a bit of a revelation once you see inside their strategy.

While they lose the election, they win in building a new populist movement, like the TP, but more alt-right, younger plus disenfranchised mainstream GOP and fully monetized as media.

Shocking in that his partnership with the RNC gave him full, free access to their massive email and donor lists and he now has that contact list built over decades PLUS a massive contact list of his own making (loyal followers).

It means he has a much larger list than the RNC does and he is not shackled in the way he exploits it...and he can exert that force on the GOP post election for political purposes (movement) as well as monetize through media.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: AboveBoard

Mostly it means that anyone that thought a Trump loss would mean the end of the vitriolic rhetoric is mistaken.

The campaign is built as a movement plus media stream first and foremost, winning the election is actually secondary.

That force will be exerted through Media channels courting the emerging/growing Alt-Right and in DC through PACs backing challengers to GOP that don't get on board. In many Alt-Right circles they already refer to Trump as "Big Daddy".

America needs to start to brace for it's own populist wave like has happened in parts of Europe.

Trump will not go quietly after November...there is too much money to be had yet.


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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:00 AM
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While I'm not a Trump supporter... The system is rigged. It was rigged against Bernie, the media doesn't try to show biased.

Oh and how could we forget the Texas voter machine "glitch". Give me a break, how does a glitch that heavy make it through internal testing and a regulatory commission? Reminds me of the Diebold employee who spoke before Ohio's Congress on malicious coding to sway elections.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5


This also explains why Chaffetz has flip-flopped and announced he has dozens of "investigations" lined up for Hillary Clinton if she wins and he will now be voting for Donald Trump, despite condemning him publicly and saying he wouldn't endorse him just a week ago.


Where did you see this?



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

I just love the way the election is announced over by you and so many others. Im not saying it is or it isnt but ive heard many examples of races where one candidate led by many points heading into the last week and lost the election. With the daily revelations about the hillary campaign in the form emails and videos who knows what the next 11 days holds. maybe it will happen here, maybe it won't but I sure wouldn't want to eat the crow you guys will be feasting on for weeks to come with threads just like these if it does!



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Oh and how could we forget the Texas voter machine "glitch". Give me a break, how does a glitch that heavy make it through internal testing and a regulatory commission?


No offense...but you are consuming parsed info for agenda purposes.

The woman in Texas who started that claim on FB? If you read carefully, her vote actually did register as GOP as she intended and she admits that. She was just complaining that she was confused.

The system worked as designed, not everyone understands the machine and how voting works. Even then TX has safeguards for user error and if anyone complains that their vote was registered improperly (confirmations are provided for each vote) then everyone is well trained on how to walk someone through recasting their ballot.

User error...A Gazillion people vote, some people are going to be confused.

Trump exploited that bit to support a "rigged election" claim.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: Indigo5


This also explains why Chaffetz has flip-flopped and announced he has dozens of "investigations" lined up for Hillary Clinton if she wins and he will now be voting for Donald Trump, despite condemning him publicly and saying he wouldn't endorse him just a week ago.


Where did you see this?


Links in post...google for further info. Chaffetz strange flip-flop on trump and announcing "years" of future HRC investigations is well covered in the news this week.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Just searched it, apparently some news jumped the gun and they found it to be false. You are correct.

But there was a man named Bernie
and they screwed him pretty good.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: AboveBoard

Also here is an interesting read about what is to come


Far from the halls of the Hoover Institution and big Washington policy shops is a force they cannot control: the Trump campaign, a small collection of social-media gurus, Breitbart alumni, and Trump family members who have managed to capture the majority of Republican voters in the U.S., and who may use their new power to launch a media network, or take over as the new axis of the GOP, or both. And as the old establishment looks on in horror, the civil war in its ranks has already begun.

www.politico.com...



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: keenmachine
a reply to: Indigo5

I just love the way the election is announced over by you and so many others. Im not saying it is or it isnt but ive heard many examples of races where one candidate led by many points heading into the last week and lost the election.


Name one..Not small town or city, but one where there were national polls done weekly by 50+ different established pollsters showing consistent trend.



maybe it won't but I sure wouldn't want to eat the crow you guys will be feasting on for weeks to come with threads just like these if it does!


Trump's campaign itself runs extensive polling and their Digital Campaign Leader and close Trump family friend have said the numbers they have align with public polls and specifically almost precisely with Nate Silver.

Nate has Trump's chances at 19% for winning.

Could trump win? Yes. But Hillary has an 81% chance of winning.

If he wins, my "eating crow" will be the least of mine or anyone's worries.
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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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(Sent you a PM. My messages have not been going through lately, which is a bummer, so please check and let me know - sorry to interrupt the thread...)

- AB



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

so if she wins you won;t equally have as many worries or maybe even more? Have you even seen what this woman is capable of? If you will breathe a sigh of relief at a hillary win then I don't know what to say really.
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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: keenmachine
a reply to: Indigo5

so if she wins you won;t equally have as many worries or maybe even more?


Correct..As so many Prominent GOP figures, newspapers and pundits have articulated.

The question with Clinton is Policy..

The question with Trump is Core American Principles and a glaring unfitness for the office.




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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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The results mirror those of the more reliable public forecasters—in other words, Trump’s staff knows he’s losing. Badly. “Nate Silver’s results have been similar to ours,” says Parscale, referring to the polling analyst and his predictions at FiveThirtyEight, “except they lag by a week or two because he’s relying on public polls.”

I find it very odd that Trump's staff would divulge this information. If they wanted his followers to buy into the whole rigged elections meme, why would they come out and say they know for a fact he is losing fair and square and their surveys prove it? It makes no sense.

Here's what really happening: Trump's surveys show he is comfortably ahead of Hillary, but his staff is being instructed to say they know he's losing in an attempt to get more people to vote for Trump and give him the landslide victory he dreams of.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: BlueShaman

The results mirror those of the more reliable public forecasters—in other words, Trump’s staff knows he’s losing. Badly. “Nate Silver’s results have been similar to ours,” says Parscale, referring to the polling analyst and his predictions at FiveThirtyEight, “except they lag by a week or two because he’s relying on public polls.”

I find it very odd that Trump's staff would divulge this information. If they wanted his followers to buy into the whole rigged elections meme, why would they come out and say they know for a fact he is losing fair and square and their surveys prove it? It makes no sense.



If you read the article the admission was part of Trump's Digital Strategy Head's plan to change the outcome. He goes on to explain hyper-targeted geographies and demographics where they are blitzing to suppress voter turn-out for Hillary...primarily X-Bern Millennial, African Americans and Latinos in FL and the womens vote.

It was a moment of honesty in service of a little strategy bragging.

Those quoted in the story haven't denied it in any way or pushed back.

And frankly...Trump followers don't read involved "main-stream news" stories and certainly not Bloomberg News articles...Trump is their news...which is kind of the point. No risk taken there.
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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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lololol




posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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I am not sure what you want me to see?

The fact that their are African Americans voting for Trump?

Of course there are.

Are you inferring that since a reporter spoke with one, somehow he isn't losing the African American vote by an massive percentage?



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