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The Unjustified Hatred of Donald Trump

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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

LM doesn't like it when you point out the Goose Axiom and the Gander Corrollary.

(Good on you though.
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posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth



Can you point out anywhere that Trump accused Cruz's father of helping Oswald?


Changing the goal posts? Here's what you said.



There is no evidence that he was behind the story.


Actually, there is. The fact that he pounced on it, extolled it as truth and then used it to smear Ted Cruz family name through innuendo, proves that it was part of his all too familiar character assassination strategy.

What's good for the goose..........

Trump "hate" is NOT unjustified by any means, and to accuse his detractor of being irrational and brainwashed is just another example of using Trump character assassination strategies against those who speak their opinion against electing Donald Trump.



edit on 28-10-2016 by windword because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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I think alot of people are complete f'ing idiots..does not mean I hate them.
That's all that need's to be said



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: UKTruth

I have no problem with those who have started at the bottom, and worked their way up, earning their way to the top. I have no problem with those who have done so while paying all their taxes, meeting all their commitments to their customers and creditors, and who do not create legions of devastated investors, crumbling facades of failed businesses in their wake. I have no problem with people who have been successful.

I do have problems with people who get there by way of mooching their first million, and conning others out of the money THEY earned, by making false promises, by inflating the worth of their own portfolio and by engaging in practices generally that I would deem immoral.



Sounds too one sided.

Trump has paid more taxes than you will pay in a hundred lifetimes I suspect. He's created more jobs than most too. Do you have any information to suggest he has dodged any tax that he was due to pay? If you don't then you are just replaying media stories with no actual information to ground your ire.
Business creates winners and losers. It's that simple, and investors will lose money from time to time. Were there laws broken?
As for business failures, are there any billionaires that have never had a failed business on the way to their fortune - again, in Trump's case, a journey that provided products and services to millions and jobs for tens of thousands.

Mooching the first million? How many successful businesses do you think started off with loans or grew only because they were able to secure loans? Most of them I would say.

I read what you write on this and I see nothing that I couldn't read in a Media Matters hit piece. No substance, no thought, just accusations and judgement based on no knowledge.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:18 AM
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Good. Now you are up to speed. So now you know this is about the broad spectrum of coverage and reaction both on and off ATS including lies (but not limited to lies).


Great. So, once again, I counter the OP with the opinion that all of Trumps media problems are caused by his own big mouth, his own words and his own actions.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:20 AM
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Trump has paid more taxes than you will pay in a hundred lifetimes I suspect.


I suspect that his secretaries pay more in taxes than what few dollars may fly out of Trump's own wallet, to pay his own income taxes.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth



Can you point out anywhere that Trump accused Cruz's father of helping Oswald?


Changing the goal posts? Here's what you said.



There is no evidence that he was behind the story.


Actually, there is. The fact that he pounced on it, extolled it as truth and then used it to smear Ted Cruz family name through innuendo, proves that it was part of his all to familiar character assassination strategy.

What's good for the goose..........

Trump "hate" is NOT unjustified by any means, and to accuse his detractor of being irrational and brainwashed is just another example of using Trump character assassination strategies against those who speak their opinion against electing Donald Trump.




The goalposts are in the OP - the one you have now read.
Your 'goal posts' in this thread are worthless.

The fact that Trump pounced on it is evidence of him being behind the story? Wow, how amusing. If your mind works like that then it's no wonder I am always left laughing when I read one of your posts.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Trump has paid more taxes than you will pay in a hundred lifetimes I suspect. He's created more jobs than most too.


Ah, unbridled love of plutocracy ...

Mr. Trumps nethers must be much warmer this morning from all the smooching going on here.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth




Trump has paid more taxes than you will pay in a hundred lifetimes I suspect.


I suspect that his secretaries pay more in taxes than what few dollars may fly out of Trump's own wallet, to pay his own income taxes.



Glad you have reverted to nonsense - It perfectly makes the OP's point. I knew I could rely on you.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:25 AM
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Your 'goal posts' in this thread are worthless.


Your opinion is worthless to me and most Americans. We aren't voting here to bail you Brits out of your dumb Brexit problems. Trump cant and won't fix your financial problems, should he be elected.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:26 AM
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Nut's polished..dolphin smooth



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Prove it! Let's see Trump's tax returns. It's an easy fix. Until that time, the evidence is mountainous that Trump's secretaries are paying more in income than Trump has in the past decade.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth
Trump has paid more taxes than you will pay in a hundred lifetimes I suspect. He's created more jobs than most too.


Ah, unbridled love of plutocracy ...

Mr. Trumps nethers must be much warmer this morning from all the smooching going on here.


Capitalism is not Plutocracy.
In fact socialism is closer - after all socialism creates an elite wealthy class with their hands on the reigns of govt., decimates the middle class and keeps the serfs in check.
edit on 28/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth




Your 'goal posts' in this thread are worthless.


Your opinion is worthless to me and most Americans. We aren't voting here to bail you Brits out of your dumb Brexit problems. Trump cant and won't fix your financial problems, should he be elected.


Oh, UK's not British ... unless the story has changed again this morning.

Just an "interested party."



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

Prove it! Let's see Trump's tax returns. It's an easy fix. Until that time, the evidence is mountainous that Trump's secretaries are paying more in income than Trump has in the past decade.



Which "mountainous evidence" is there that Trump's secretaries are paying more in income than Trump has in the past decade? Please provide, or are you lying by chance?



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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I recall being schooled by UK that all of the UK is British.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Gryphon66

I recall being schooled by UK that all of the UK is British.



It varies by the day.

I don't put a lot of stock in that particular brand of "identity politics."



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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Which "mountainous evidence"


His declaration of nearly a billion dollar loss.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth

Prove it! Let's see Trump's tax returns. It's an easy fix. Until that time, the evidence is mountainous that Trump's secretaries are paying more in income than Trump has in the past decade.



Which "mountainous evidence" is there that Trump's secretaries are paying more in income than Trump has in the past decade? Please provide, or are you lying by chance?


Sure ... right after you provide the evidence that Trump is paying his fair share ... you, after all, brought it up.



posted on Oct, 28 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Gryphon66

I recall being schooled by UK that all of the UK is British.



But not everyone who lives in the UK is British. I would have thought that was obvious



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