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Britain to send hundreds more troops to Russia border as Cold War tension escalates

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posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 04:58 AM
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Britain will send hundreds more troops close to Russia’s border, the Government has said, as the Prime Minister also called for “pressure” on Moscow over the Syria crisis.

Around 800 soldiers along with tanks, armoured vehicles and drones will now head to Estonia in the spring in a Nato effort to reassure the Baltic states over Russian aggression.
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Is it starting to look like WW3 yet? Let's see if the main critiques of these kinds of threads are answered.

1. Is this "saber rattling"? No.

2. Is this move unequivocally directly related to countering Russia? Yes.

3. Is this "fearmongering"? No.

There was something in the news yesterday that seemed to slip by everyone:


Guy Verhofstadt, former prime minister of Belgium and now the EU’s representative on Brexit talks with the UK, called Spain’s decision to allow the refuelling “scandalous”.

"It is scandalous that Spain, a member of NATO and the EU, is today allowing the Russian #Kuznetsov fleet to refuel and receive technical assistance on Spanish territory. Only last week – this Spanish Government signed up to a statement from the European Council accusing Russia of war crimes against civilians in #Aleppo, yet today it provides assistance to a fleet which has one purpose; the annihilation of Aleppo and the harassment of EU & NATO forces."
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Did Guy Verhofstadt just state that Russia is using a fleet of warships to terrorize EU & NATO forces? I realize that the word "harassment" is used in the quote above, but how does that word fit in this context? It seems like it could be a coded message.

Either way, "the harassment of EU & NATO forces" sounds like it could be an act of war to me. That's the essence of my argument for why WW3 has already started. It's well past the point of "saber rattling" and "posturing", actual harassment/terrorism/warfare (take your pick of words) is involved.
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posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 05:02 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

Hm. On its side, Russia has just unveiled her new, Satan 2 nuclear warhead, capable of "destroying UK two times over".

I agree with you, this isn't just saber rattling anymore.

Good thread.

edit on 27-10-2016 by swanne because: Oops! The TypoMaster strikes again!




posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 05:09 AM
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We should really kick those baltic states out of NATO.

They've been nothing but trouble since we let them in.

Turkey can go too.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 05:13 AM
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Ever wondered if it is a spiritual war where the peasants in the soldiers native country are soon to be tested by Jesus.

1) remove all military personal overseas.
2) create war between imported terrorists (ISIS) and local Brits.
3) the Brits that cower, die fast. The ones that stand their ground get angelic powers and become the New World leaders after all of Lucifers goons are Judged and Hung.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 05:14 AM
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originally posted by: Profusion

Britain will send hundreds more troops close to Russia’s border, the Government has said, as the Prime Minister also called for “pressure” on Moscow over the Syria crisis.

Around 800 soldiers along with tanks, armoured vehicles and drones will now head to Estonia in the spring in a Nato effort to reassure the Baltic states over Russian aggression.
SOURCE


Is it starting to look like WW3 yet? Let's see if the main critiques of these kinds of threads are answered.

1. Is this "saber rattling"? No.

2. Is this move unequivocally directly related to countering Russia? Yes.

3. Is this "fearmongering"? No.

There was something in the news yesterday that seemed to slip by everyone:


Guy Verhofstadt, former prime minister of Belgium and now the EU’s representative on Brexit talks with the UK, called Spain’s decision to allow the refuelling “scandalous”.

"It is scandalous that Spain, a member of NATO and the EU, is today allowing the Russian #Kuznetsov fleet to refuel and receive technical assistance on Spanish territory. Only last week – this Spanish Government signed up to a statement from the European Council accusing Russia of war crimes against civilians in #Aleppo, yet today it provides assistance to a fleet which has one purpose; the annihilation of Aleppo and the harassment of EU & NATO forces."
SOURCE


Did Guy Verhofstadt just state that Russia is using a fleet of warships to terrorize EU & NATO forces? I realize that the word "harassment" is used in the quote above, but how does that word fit in this context? It seems like it could be a coded message.

Either way, "the harassment of EU & NATO forces" sounds like it could be an act of war to me. That's the essence of my argument for why WW3 has already started. It's well past the point of "saber rattling" and "posturing", actual harassment/terrorism/warfare (take your pick of words) is involved.


It's American election time. Just look at the Philippine situation also. Distraction at its finest.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 05:21 AM
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the Brits that cower, die fast. The ones that stand their ground get angelic powers and become the New World leaders after all of Lucifers goons are Judged and Hung.

Oh?

I've stood my ground alot of times, yet this didn't make me gain any Level Up Angelic Powers, nor did I become leader of the New World and made Lucy's goon magically hang in the process?

Maybe I did it wrong? Perhaps I didn't do my stance right when I stood my ground?


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posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 05:27 AM
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It is scandalous that Spain, a member of NATO and the EU, is today allowing the Russian #Kuznetsov fleet to refuel and receive technical assistance on Spanish territory.
spain cancelled this, yesterday.

as said on another thread, a few hundred soldiers isn't enough to invade russia.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 05:36 AM
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i wish brtian will just let USA destroy it self and stop licking their a$$es.

Russia should be left alone or at least have dialoge on similar interesets. All becasue of USA big EGO they stepped into syria
edit on ThursdaythkThu, 27 Oct 2016 05:36:46 -0500America/Chicago4Thursday2016201646 by lSkrewloosel because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 05:40 AM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
We should really kick those baltic states out of NATO.


Why? So that we could leave Russia free to invade and occupy them again? Did I say occupy? Sorry, I meant annex.

Moving troops around NATO members for training and inter-service collaboration id not new. It's just reported a bit more because to the current tensions.

Note that a couple of weeks ago Russia was putting massive forces into their enclave of Kaliningrad which makes the movement of a few hundred British squaddies seem a little bit of a token gesture. Kaliningrad was a part of Germany annexed by Russia after WW2 and the place was ethnically cleansed of the natives.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 06:09 AM
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I been noticing how Nato members like to use words in their "advantage" to fit the story for their news, even so boldly as changing TERRORIST as REBELS and now we see them as CIVILIANS.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 06:18 AM
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Don't really see how anyone or anything for that matter could stand there ground against a nuclear attack.

This has nothing to do with spiritual war, this is about humanity's inability to communicate without resorting to waving there nuclear penis at one another.

If there is a third world war of the nuclear variety nobody wins and all it will serve to achieve is to set back humanity for the next 10,000 years or so.


edit on 27-10-2016 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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originally posted by: Rapha
Ever wondered if it is a spiritual war where the peasants in the soldiers native country are soon to be tested by Jesus.

1) remove all military personal overseas.
2) create war between imported terrorists (ISIS) and local Brits.
3) the Brits that cower, die fast. The ones that stand their ground get angelic powers and become the New World leaders after all of Lucifers goons are Judged and Hung.


I guess a link is out of the question ?




posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
a reply to: Profusion
i wish brtian will just let USA destroy it self and stop licking their a$$es.

Russia should be left alone or at least have dialoge on similar interesets. All becasue of USA big EGO they stepped into syria


Exactly.

# the USA and Russia


The dumbarses destroy each other.


Britain can survive and pick up the pieces.


In WW3 NO ONE WINS. So no point getting involved!

As a UK citizen i refuse to support any actions of aggression and will remain neutral.
I do not care if that makes me a traitor.
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posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 06:50 AM
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If the USA and Russia do decide to start lobbing atomics at one another whether or not Britain chooses to play the part of Americas lap dog is nether here nor there considering it will ultimately lead to full blown world war.

Even if we were not targeted and they kept there exchange to there own nations we would still be blanketed by the fallout contaminating our water supply's, food stuffs, land and atmosphere beyond repair for the next few thousand years.

So your no traitor for not supporting there crazy nonsensical saber rattling, point of fact i imagine most people can see Nuclear war for the no brainer it actually is.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 07:01 AM
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originally posted by: swanne
I've stood my ground alot of times, yet this didn't make me gain any Level Up Angelic Powers, nor did I become leader of the New World and made Lucy's goon magically hang in the process?

Maybe I did it wrong? Perhaps I didn't do my stance right when I stood my ground?

By not committing suicide is already a stance. A lot of people are losing it now with suicides on the rise.

It will be at least a week or two before something big happens. Just hang-in-there.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
We should really kick those baltic states out of NATO.

They've been nothing but trouble since we let them in.

Turkey can go too.


This is right, and not only for warmongerers reasons!
But we also should not forget that these miniature states are only used too, like the rest of dumb europe.
By the anglo-american axis, some call it meanwhile the new axis of evil.

Bceause, for the simple reason that russia didn´t break made promises, after the Globalists "reunited" Germany, let´s better say brought down the wall(To be honest, there is no unity between german people, often not even in the own families, less than ever between the east and west of germany).

The broken promises were about the eastward enlargement of the NATO.

NATO's Eastward Expansion Did the West Break Its Promise to Moscow?

"Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has accused the West of breaking promises made after the fall of the Iron Curtain, saying that NATO's expansion into Eastern Europe violated commitments made during the negotiations over German reunification. Newly discovered documents from Western archives support the Russian position."

Russia didn´t expand his military troops to the borders of the USA or UK, didn´t build a rocket shield in Mexico, Canada or elsewhere at the borders of the USA.

I read right now that Orban acts the same like Erdolf aka Erdogan. The last hungarian newspaper that reported about the criminal acts of the Orban family, the "Népszabadság" was closed down, freedom of the press is almost terminated now.

And those EU puppets send taxmoney to such states and get nothing but problems back, but don´t even try to stop such Hobby Hitlers. Good that Erdolfistan is not in the EU like hungaria and the other "want revenge from russia" liliputh states. And the people that elected Orban, just for anti-refugee and othe Nazi reasons, for nothing else?
Another year under Orban and they will end as refugees in western europe! That will become embarrassing for the anti-refugee masses...


To come to an end.
It´s obvisiously the "west" who is playing foul, playing foul and nothing else than that, at least since 9/11.
The anglo-american axis(the modern mass surveillance pioneers) is surrounding russia, not russia the "west"(and is using it´s idiot european "partners" for this). It´s not russia that covers every part of the world with his military and his eavesdrop stations. It´s not russia that "owns" almost unsinkable aircraft carries like Germany(38.500 US troops in germany), for example. It´s not russia that stores nuke in germany, that we germans aren´t even allowed to own or store on our territory. The NSA isn´t russian. TTIP, CETA, NAFTA, TISA and all that, isn´t russian. The bankster crash 2008 was not based in russia. The robber baron capitalism that "feeds" a few but exploits 99,9% is not coming from communism(though they learned fast how it works). Monsanto, Dupont etc, not russian. I could go on and on, but i have to come to an end.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 07:03 AM
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Did Guy Verhofstadt just state that Russia is using a fleet of warships to terrorize EU & NATO forces? I realize that the word "harassment" is used in the quote above, but how does that word fit in this context? It seems like it could be a coded message.


Guy Verhofstadt is really over exaggerating with this statement, he is trying to compare the Russian actions in Syria to those in Ukraine and Libya. Aleppo is in Syria, which is not in the EU or NATO and looks to Russia and China as its allies. Also,




So why hasn’t NATO intervened Libya-style, to oust dictator? First, Syria has allies that Libya did not – Russia and China, which defend Syria at the UN by vetoing Security Council resolutions – and Iran and Hezbollah, which, along with Russia, supply Syria with the arms and trained soldiers used to fight the ill-equipped and poorly organized rebel forces.
Link to source

As a student of US history, I know how much the US government loves poorly organized rebel forces, they used them for 50 plus years in central America, southeast Asia, and the middle east to destabilize anything that seemed to threaten their hegemonic power trip.

So, in conclusion. is this event part of what might one day be known as World War 3, yes, but not for the reasons most people think. World war 3 will be fought between organized governments and the rising tide of anarchist terrorist groups that were created by organized governments giving poorly trained rebel forces lots of military equipment and training. Arming your enemies enemy is not a smart tactic in modern warfare, and old hatreds are coming out in the western MSM over the "Russian Aggression" . If you think that them building up its military is a sign of aggression, then you must agree that the United States is also showing major signs of aggression by build billion dollar spy drones and other weapons common citizens know nothing about, while health care and education are being poorly funded.

S&F Great find, good discussion.
Be ready.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
Don't really see how anyone or anything for that matter could stand there ground against a nuclear attack.

This has nothing to do with spiritual war, this is about humanity's inability to communicate without resorting to waving there nuclear penis at one another.

If there is a third world war of the nuclear variety nobody wins and all it will serve to achieve is to set back humanity for the next 10,000 years or so.

Which is why nuclear war is never going to happen. The elite want the world excluding us deplorable's.

There are negative entities that feed off fear. This is why the elite create so many wars and rumours of wars. They want endless fear and doom porn. They don't want planet earth to join the asteroid belt.
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posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 07:09 AM
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Britain to send hundreds more troops to Russia border as Cold War tension escalates

Lol, thats whats "escalating tensions". Piling up armies on another countries border.

NATO has this reputation of violating borders, international law, sovereignty.

Ya thimk?



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: scubagravy
I guess a link is out of the question ?

Maybe not. Look at how Alex Jones is gaining popularity as a speaker against the globalists.

Look at how MSM now has a very low view rate and how very few people trust politicians.

Somehow Alex Jones is still alive and hasn't been dealt with in a fatal accident adding to Hillary's body bag tally.



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