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posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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Donald Trump Allies Focus Anger on Another Target: G.O.P. Leaders
By Jeremy W. Peters and Maggie Haberman, OCT. 26, 2016. The New York Times

Faced with the demoralizing prospect of a third consecutive loss in a presidential race, conservative Republicans are girding for an extended clash on two fronts in the months ahead: one with a Hillary Clinton administration that could look like a reprise of the partisan battles of the 1990s, and another with Republican leaders on Capitol Hill who rejected Donald J. Trump.

Though a victory by Mrs. Clinton is far from a foregone conclusion, what does seem clear is that the frustrations and anxieties that fueled Mr. Trump’s rise will not be fleeting. And a defeat of Mr. Trump — which he has already darkly alluded to as part of a plot to disenfranchise his supporters — could further inflame those on the right whose goal all along has been to disrupt the country’s political system.

Some of the loudest voices on the right seem poised to channel that anger into one of their favorite and most frequent pursuits: eating their own.

www.nytimes.com...


You might not have felt the rumble yet, but there's been a political earthquake of sorts, which will alter the landscape, perhaps even remove the Speaker of the House.

Win or lose, Trump, in collaboration with his top campaign advisors including Roger Ailes, Roger Stone and Steve Bannon, have tapped a nerve in the American psyche, and they aren't about to let that go to waste if Trump loses the general election on November 8th (it's become like a new form of doom porn).

So they're going to eviscerate the Republican Party as you know it, so that Donald Trump can walk away when the dust settles with whatever's left of it, by suggesting that in walking away from him, as Ryan did, they all blew it, while proceeding to launch some new Internet-based Media Empire that continues to give voice to the angst (although I'll bet that wasn't in his original agreement with Bill Clinton before he embarked on this crazy adventure), to wherever possible take a wrecking ball to the established order, and hey maybe that's not such a bad thing in the final analysis..

..provided that the Alt Right doesn't become the New Right Wing, leaving what was left of the Party of Abraham Lincoln in the ash heap of history, and that would not be good I don't think.

They want to be the ones to reinvent the Republican Party that they hijacked and now intend to destroy, ironically enough.




posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 09:48 PM
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On a more positive note..

It's a good time to be a young politician filled with passion who wants to make a difference, because all those old dogs are about to fall away.

I'm not sure that immigration is the best issue to make as the centerpiece of your campaign platform though..



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 09:56 PM
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I don`t believe that many of trump`s supporters actually believe that he is a republican, I think that they see him as a 3rd party outsider who "borrowed" the republican label in order to get nominated and actually have a chance at being elected. we all know that 3rd party candidates are locked out of all the debates and get no airtime from the MSM.
and by the way the republican party has been acting I think they believe the same thing.
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posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

Well said. I see it that way too. If he had run third party, he would be long gone.



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 10:56 PM
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I suppose if he loses, the old guard could close ranks to prevent a crackup, but people will still ask them who they voted for and why they didn't back away from him sooner.

Trump is like a hot potato to the Republican Party right now, and they're screwed every which way unless he were to win, but if he doesn't, it will be someone else's fault, never Trump's own.

He's like a wrecking ball tied to the leg of the Republican Party by a chain.

After the dust settles, I think it will force the GOP to reinvent itself in the pattern of what it once was, like a Phoenix rising from the ashes in the wake of Donald Trump.

If he wins, it would be like ashes to the wind bu bye GOP.

If he loses, there's a chance they could make a comeback for the midterms and in 2020 if the people aren't too happy with Hillary's leadership and things are not improving markedly, but they'd have to walk away from him now, before the election, not after.

As we get down to the final week, unless the polls have shifted dramatically, we're going to see a mass exodus away from Donald Trump by the Republican Leadership, while Trump's own fanbase holds their feet to the fire so to speak. Mark my words.

edit on 26-10-2016 by AnkhMorpork because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 10:58 PM
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Both major parties need to die.

The betrayal of Bernie should've spelt the death for the DNC.

If Trump ends the GOP, good on him.



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka

If Clinton wins, she should invite Bernie to the Whitehouse ASAP, like day one.



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:25 PM
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Trump essentially fragmented the GOP into Waring factions and what will Trump be able to accomplish without support from the House and Senate. His followers might think he is omnipotent but reality will soon raise it's ugly head and Trump will have a yugggeee epiphany if he gets elected.

No worries the democrats will prove to be the party that maintains power no matter who is elected president. The neocons didn't go anywhere. It's really not about political parties anymore; the real power isn't political it's corporate.


edit on 26-10-2016 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:39 PM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

Like the Jewish Holocaust. , the Bush Family will Never Forget those who would Dare to put up " Roadblocks " Against the Goal of achieving Fruition of their Dream of an Orwellian NWO . The Bush's Political Influence is Behind the Rift between Trump and the GOP Establishment to be Sure , they Care Not what happens to America if they cannot continue to Under mind it's Freedoms .
edit on 26-10-2016 by Zanti Misfit because: spelling



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
On a more positive note..

It's a good time to be a young politician filled with passion who wants to make a difference, because all those old dogs are about to fall away.

I'm not sure that immigration is the best issue to make as the centerpiece of your campaign platform though..


If they are smart it will be some one with most of trumps policies AND who is a worthy leader..

IMHO this is the price for going tinfoil hat with Fox News and such. So many fake scandals that never "came true" with a republican led congressional committee finding no wrong doing.. They don't know who to trust..


If they go full tinfoil (trump) the RNC dies. because that is unsustainable. Long term..
If they cut the tinfoil out root and stem..maybe opposition party for awhile. Then back to normal.



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posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:47 PM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork


Donald Trump Allies Focus Anger on Another Target: G.O.P. Leaders
By Jeremy W. Peters and Maggie Haberman, OCT. 26, 2016. The New York Times

Faced with the demoralizing prospect of a third consecutive loss in a presidential race, conservative Republicans are girding for an extended clash on two fronts in the months ahead: one with a Hillary Clinton administration that could look like a reprise of the partisan battles of the 1990s, and another with Republican leaders on Capitol Hill who rejected Donald J. Trump.

Though a victory by Mrs. Clinton is far from a foregone conclusion, what does seem clear is that the frustrations and anxieties that fueled Mr. Trump’s rise will not be fleeting. And a defeat of Mr. Trump — which he has already darkly alluded to as part of a plot to disenfranchise his supporters — could further inflame those on the right whose goal all along has been to disrupt the country’s political system.

Some of the loudest voices on the right seem poised to channel that anger into one of their favorite and most frequent pursuits: eating their own.

www.nytimes.com...


You might not have felt the rumble yet, but there's been a political earthquake of sorts, which will alter the landscape, perhaps even remove the Speaker of the House.

Win or lose, Trump, in collaboration with his top campaign advisors including Roger Ailes, Roger Stone and Steve Bannon, have tapped a nerve in the American psyche, and they aren't about to let that go to waste if Trump loses the general election on November 8th (it's become like a new form of doom porn).

So they're going to eviscerate the Republican Party as you know it, so that Donald Trump can walk away when the dust settles with whatever's left of it, by suggesting that in walking away from him, as Ryan did, they all blew it, while proceeding to launch some new Internet-based Media Empire that continues to give voice to the angst (although I'll bet that wasn't in his original agreement with Bill Clinton before he embarked on this crazy adventure), to wherever possible take a wrecking ball to the established order, and hey maybe that's not such a bad thing in the final analysis..

..provided that the Alt Right doesn't become the New Right Wing, leaving what was left of the Party of Abraham Lincoln in the ash heap of history, and that would not be good I don't think.

They want to be the ones to reinvent the Republican Party that they hijacked and now intend to destroy, ironically enough.




Here’s what possible fellow pedophile Trump had to say about Epstein, in 2002:

I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.


www.buzzfeed.com...

www.dailywire.com...


www.bluedotdaily.com...

exerpt of a sworn testimony

On the fourth incident, she says Mr. Trump tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her, in a “savage sexual attack,” while she pleaded with him to stop. She says Mr. Trump violently struck her in the face. She says that afterward, if she ever revealed what he had done, Mr. Trump threatened that she and her family would be “physically harmed if not killed.” She says she has been in fear of him ever since.


In another deposition, Epstein’s brother Mark testified he once flew on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane with both him and Trump, who were “friends.” Asked why Trump was on board, Mark Epstein replied, “You’ll have to ask Donald."

www.documentcloud.org...



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:52 PM
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For Donald Trump the whole thing is just a "beautiful fork in the road", minus the sex harassment and abuse allegations and the tarnish on his brand.

Don't be surprise if he holds back on advertising next week in order to completely pay himself back every penny that he's lent to the campaign.

He'll chalk the whole thing up as a net gain in publicity.

Steve Bannon, Roger Ailes and Roger Stone have something else in mind, but really how popular would Trump TV really be, would it get better ratings than Alex Jones? And just how fanatical are people going to be about visiting Breitbart News and Trump's Facebook feed?

I think he's lost all credibility, and that his base will just meld with the alt right while breaking up, as Donald goes off into the sunset with the hope of repairing his brand.

The Republican Party however will come out worse for wear and probably won't recover, if they didn't have the House gerrymandered that is.

Look out though if Clinton wins by double digits and a wave turns the House Blue, then the Republican Party won't see power for a generation or more - all compliments of one Donald J Trump, personal wrecking ball.

If Bill Clinton pied pipered Trump to run, he could not have scripted it any better.



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:55 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
Both major parties need to die.

The betrayal of Bernie should've spelt the death for the DNC.

If Trump ends the GOP, good on him.



This was definitely the year to get a liberal elected..

Instead we get the most right wing dem available..



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: bluerabbit7788

" Here’s what possible fellow pedophile Trump "


A Regular Spammer you are .

Again , " Possible " is Not Conclusive .


www.abovetopsecret.com...
edit on 26-10-2016 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2016 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

IMHO this is the price for going tinfoil hat with Fox News and such. So many fake scandals that never "came true" with a republican led congressional committee finding no wrong doing.. They don't know who to trust..


If they go full tinfoil (trump) the RNC dies. because that is unsustainable. Long term..

If they cut the tinfoil out root and stem..maybe opposition party for awhile. Then back to normal.



That's funny! But once the hat goes on, can the tinfoil be removed "root and stem"? lol

Post election, I see a whole herd of people trying to gain sustenance at the tit of Trump's twitter feed only to suddenly come to their senses and make their way home, like the Prodigal Son, except that there's no loving daddy running with open arms to greet you, so they'll have to come to power and fight it out tooth and nail.

It's a total vacuum, and there's no way that Trump and his cadre will let Ryan remain unchallenged with a thinner majority, if one at all. That said, Reps don't seem to feel too terribly threatened by Trump's backers, or maybe they're just playing poker with a straight face..

If the American people were smart - they've just vote Dem up and down the ticket and turn the House Blue, just to break up the gridlock and get some # done.

The Republican Party will live again, and come back to fight another day.

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posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 12:01 AM
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a reply to: bluerabbit7788

You're spamming the forums with Epstein's "Lolita Express" which Bill Clinton also rode on.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 12:26 AM
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Paul Ryan and allies brace for fallout in leadership race from Trump backers

By Deirdre Walsh and Manu Raju, CNN
Updated 2:28 PM ET, Wed October 26, 2016

Washington (CNN) Top House Republicans are moving to quiet dissent over Speaker's Paul Ryan's rocky relationship with Donald Trump as some on the far right of the GOP conference are threatening to stir up trouble in leadership elections next month.

Regardless of what happens on Election Day, Ryan is in a difficult situation given the deep divisions in the Republican Party. He has become a target of Trump's grassroots supporters, and there is some concern among members that if Trump loses outside groups could try to put pressure on GOP offices to dump Ryan as speaker

www.cnn.com...


He's with her: Inside Paul Ryan's Month's Long Campaign to Elect Hillary Clinton President

Donald Trump made headlines this week when he questioned whether Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan wanted him to prevail over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

“Maybe not,” Trump told Good Morning America on Tuesday. “Because maybe he wants to run in four years… or maybe he doesn’t know how to win. I mean, who can really know?” Trump said.

www.breitbart.com...

The 2nd article is a 3000 word essay at Breitbart, published October 21st.

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posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 02:19 AM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
I don`t believe that many of trump`s supporters actually believe that he is a republican, I think that they see him as a 3rd party outsider who "borrowed" the republican label in order to get nominated and actually have a chance at being elected. we all know that 3rd party candidates are locked out of all the debates and get no airtime from the MSM.
and by the way the republican party has been acting I think they believe the same thing.



Yes and IF he loses, that won't happen again.

The "Party" will make sure only lock steppers will be included.

The GOP just might change for the better because of him if he wins.











posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

IMHO this is the price for going tinfoil hat with Fox News and such. So many fake scandals that never "came true" with a republican led congressional committee finding no wrong doing.. They don't know who to trust..


If they go full tinfoil (trump) the RNC dies. because that is unsustainable. Long term..

If they cut the tinfoil out root and stem..maybe opposition party for awhile. Then back to normal.



That's funny! But once the hat goes on, can the tinfoil be removed "root and stem"? lol

Post election, I see a whole herd of people trying to gain sustenance at the tit of Trump's twitter feed only to suddenly come to their senses and make their way home, like the Prodigal Son, except that there's no loving daddy running with open arms to greet you, so they'll have to come to power and fight it out tooth and nail.

It's a total vacuum, and there's no way that Trump and his cadre will let Ryan remain unchallenged with a thinner majority, if one at all. That said, Reps don't seem to feel too terribly threatened by Trump's backers, or maybe they're just playing poker with a straight face..

If the American people were smart - they've just vote Dem up and down the ticket and turn the House Blue, just to break up the gridlock and get some # done.

The Republican Party will live again, and come back to fight another day.



No question..the only thing is that with the current set up you can only support 2 parties really.. and it looks like the 2 rights are gonna hate each other more than the opposition soooo...

how do they compete nationally when they can't even come to gather??

Most likely one agrees closer with democrats then edges the others out.



posted on Oct, 27 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Trump voters might not agree with this, but I believe that Clinton feels that she'll make a great President and one who, unlike Obama will work across the Isle to govern while focusing on a message of unity, and optimism and active participation in lifting each other up and being Civil even when we vehemently disagree, which is a much more appropriate frame of reference, and if it resonates along with results ie: if she can the things done that she's outlined in her plan, then she just might be able to pull it off, and thus the increasing ebullient attitude among her campaign and supporters, myself tentatively included.

I see a new dawn and nothing short of a 21st century American renaissance just waiting in the wings, along with a world waiting to be born anew, who's highest virtue, except for freedom and liberty, is Civility, motivated by love.

She needs to change I think as a human being in putting on that mirthful girliness and putting away the angry and mean-spirited person who likes to tear people apart and give them looks that kill with laser eyes, that kind of nonsense.

It has to be congruent, effective leadership, according to the model as given by none other than the Lord Himself.

You can't be ranting and raving at people and scaring them to run to and fro in a panic, in the domain of your "personal" life, then be something else entirely in public - that's absurd. Hillary if you're reading... take note!




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