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originally posted by: yeahright
Mathmatically speaking, there is certainly alien civilizations out there.
I disagree. I think you can speculate that there exists the possibility of alien civilizations being out there, but I can't see where it's any sort of mathematical certainty.
originally posted by: neoholographic
Hawking said,"Aliens almost certainly exist." These are conclusions reached based on the evidence not extraordinary claims.
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
originally posted by: neoholographic
Hawking said,"Aliens almost certainly exist." These are conclusions reached based on the evidence not extraordinary claims.
False. That conclusion is based on assumed probabilities, not on evidence, which we still don't have.
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
originally posted by: neoholographic
Hawking said,"Aliens almost certainly exist." These are conclusions reached based on the evidence not extraordinary claims.
False. That conclusion is based on assumed probabilities, not on evidence, which we still don't have.
originally posted by: yeahright
a reply to: SaturnFX
Drake equation. Another of those sciency (it's an EQUATION after all) things that isn't. It's not an equation, it's a thought experiment where you can plug any unknown variable into it you want and get any result you're looking for.
As soon as someone invokes the Drake equation as proof or evidence of anything, they lost me. Not you, but the person in the article. It's interesting speculation, but that's all it is. IMO.
But our new planetary knowledge has removed some of the uncertainty from this debate. Three of the seven terms in Drake’s equation are now known. We know the number of stars born each year. We know that the percentage of stars hosting planets is about 100. And we also know that about 20 to 25 percent of those planets are in the right place for life to form.
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: neoholographic
However, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
I have never liked that sentence. Just evidence would do, what is extraordinary evidence anyway?
you live with a child.
one morning you wake up and notice someone ate a ton of cookies.
logical conclusion is that the child ate the cookies.
The child says it wasn't him, it was aliens who ate it.
...
unless the kid can produce some amazing video or an actual cookie stuffed alien under his bed, then the simple evidence points to the child as a cookie thief and quite imaginative.
originally posted by: vinifalou
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance
If evidence to you is hearing from our "leaders", you won't ever get it.
But if you're interested in what's really going on, there's lots of evidences out there. Just dig it.
And i'm not talking about CGI photos and videos.
originally posted by: vinifalou
There is plenty of evidence. Official evidence.
vault.fbi.gov...
vault.fbi.gov...
But won't change **** 'till our President get a press and tell everybody:
Yes, we've been visited since the dawn of men, and yes there are lots of planets out there and guess what? They have people living in there wondering if they are alone. They are not, and neither are us. Now stop paying your taxes and watching TV because life is just so much more then we thought it was.
Of course it will never happen because no one wants to see the world collapse.
This is (read slowly and carefully) the b i g g e s t and most i m p o r t a n t discover in the h i s t o r y of the men on Earth. You won't just woke up and see it on the newspaper "WE ARE NOT ALONE".
Unless we engage on a new Nuclear War, I don't think aliens will reveal themselves to us, at least not while we still live.
originally posted by: neoholographic
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
originally posted by: neoholographic
Hawking said,"Aliens almost certainly exist." These are conclusions reached based on the evidence not extraordinary claims.
False. That conclusion is based on assumed probabilities, not on evidence, which we still don't have.
No, it's based on evidence.
You can't assume any probabilities if there's no UNDERLYING EVIDENCE!
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
originally posted by: neoholographic
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
originally posted by: neoholographic
Hawking said,"Aliens almost certainly exist." These are conclusions reached based on the evidence not extraordinary claims.
False. That conclusion is based on assumed probabilities, not on evidence, which we still don't have.
No, it's based on evidence.
You can't assume any probabilities if there's no UNDERLYING EVIDENCE!
Please prevent said evidence then.
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: neoholographic
So no evidence. Thanks for confirming.
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: neoholographic
So no evidence. Thanks for confirming.
originally posted by: neoholographic
I'm not going over all of the eveidence. It has been presented thouroughly throughout this forum and others. This isn't a thread about rehashing the same things over and over again. The point is, someone could look at the evidence of exoplanets and come to the conclusion extraterrestrials exist.