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originally posted by: Advantage
Erm, stop being so damned sensitive.. this is a message board. No one was bashing you, trust me.
let's say he did grope every one of those women who recently have come forward, is he really that bad of a guy?
originally posted by: scojak
Absolutely. It shouldn't exist for men or woman. But it does, and it really should be taken into consideration in regard to this election and how it will likely hinder women more than help them.
The fact that it's taken this long for a woman to seen as capable of holding the highest office is a disgrace
originally posted by: mOjOm
If anything she is THE most qualified WOMAN to run for President. That doesn't mean she's the best possible Representative of Women, nor is she the best choice for President. However, currently, as in right now at this time, there isn't any other woman I can think of who has the experience of being a politician and knowing how to fight within that arena.
But looking strictly at the question of "Who is the most experienced Woman right now with the Male Dominated arena of Politics??" It would have to be Hillary.
If for no other reason than I can't even think of any other woman who's been as involved as her anywhere in politics.
Hillary's already been fighting this battle for years. To get where she's at now has taken her more work and more sneaky double dealing, back stabbing and double crossing
originally posted by: MOMof3
The President of the United States represents all americans.
So, when Bush crashed the economy, does that mean just men were to blame?
You have really shown the mind of Trump and his supporters about women with that statement. Keep talking til Nov 8.
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
So this depends on if you think sexual assault is really bad or not, right? Of course it is. Of course he is.
As for Hillary ultimately being a giant set back for future female presidents. Isn't that making a hell of a lot of assumptions about her presidential run since it hasn't even started?
originally posted by: mOjOm
What needs to be taken into consideration is the fact that such an idea is BS in the first place and needs to be disregarded as meaningful. We both agree that it's a false concept. A failed idea built upon some double standard that has been ingrained in our culture and has no credibility to it.
If Hillary fails it's because she failed and nothing more. It has nothing to do about being a woman. It doesn't reflect upon women in general at all. Never once has anyone ever suggested that because some other president screwed something up that it was because he was a man and that it should reflect upon other men.
So to entertain such an idea being used against women because of Hillary is nothing more than continuing that same line of incorrect thinking.
I've seen the same kind of thinking being used with Obama too and it's just as bad. Only with him it's because he's Black. So his failures are said to reflect against other Blacks which is false. Obama's failures have nothing to do with him being black any more than they have to do with him being Male. They belong to him alone and don't mean anything at all in regards to Black People, just like it means nothing at all toward all other Males either.
That kind of thinking needs to be thrown out like the garbage that it is.
well, god must be shaking his head in disbelief!
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: scojak
but you are not considering just how far back trump could take women's rights back, with the help of his ultra conservative religious right fanatic as a vp and the republican backing...
like you said, the sexism and stereotypes are real and run rampant. you don't have to tell women that, they know it, they've encountered it, they had their lived made more difficult because of it. they've fought it, our foremothers had eggs thrown at them at they marched to the polling place, they were thrown in jail for trying to vote and trying to teach other women how to avoid pregnancy. for people to just say that even if trump did sexually assault women, it's not that big a deal, or worse, to invoke god's name to convince women to support him, is kind of offensive! and don't go pointing your fingers at poor ole bill! haven't you notice how defeated and brow beaten poor ole bill looks? he's paid his price for his indiscretions while some seem to be saying that they want to reward trump for his when they say things like so what if he did these things, it's nothing!!!