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Donald Trump denounces Obamacare, while touting his golf course in Florida

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posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 11:35 AM
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CBS/AP October 25, 2016, 11:35 AM
Donald Trump denounces Obamacare, while touting his golf course in Florida
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Last Updated Oct 25, 2016 11:42 AM EDT

Flanked by dozens of his employees at Trump National Doral golf course in Florida, the Republican nominee seized on Monday’s announcement that Obamacare premiums would increase by double digits.

“This election is going to be about Obamacare -- it’s going to be about jobs; it’s going to be about a lot of things,” Trump said. “But Obamacare is just blowing up, and even the White House, our president, announced 25 or 26 percent. That number is so wrong. That is such a phony number. You’re talking about 60,70, 80 percent in increases, not 25 percent.”

The federal government announced Monday that the average premium increase would be 25 percent for plans across the 39 states that are run by the federal government.

“The numbers came out in Texas where it’s 60 percent increases, and other places, other states,” Trump declared. “One state is going to be 92 percent I understand. So I think that they wanted to put out—pretty sad when you put out a 25 or 26 percent increase, and that’s supposed to be to keep it down.” Trump promised to repeal and replace it with a plan that would be “something much less expensive for the people.”

CNN news report


He apparently hasn't been keeping up with things.

Here in Texas, our Dear Governor refused to implement Obamacare. As a result, our premiums are much higher because the insurance companies can offer lower rates elsewhere by sticking us with the bill.

He's also out of touch with what his own company is doing

After the event, asked by reporters whether he provided health insurance for all of his employees (he claimed during his remarks that there are at least 1,200 employed at Doral), he said, “Yeah, I do.”

Then, another reporter followed up and asked, “So none of them are on Obamacare?” he first said “No,” and then added, “Well, some of them are, but most of them, no.”


Florida, by the way, is another state that hasn't implemented full Obamacare

But there's more to come, it seems -- he'll be back on Wednesday with another opening of one of his businesses (a hotel) that he's going to turn into a campaign speech.


Trump has frequently mixed his campaign and business interests as he touts his ability to create jobs. On Wednesday, he has a similar dual-purpose event planned -- the official opening of his new hotel in Washington, which had a soft launch in September.


It's like the Republicans are funding his own personal ad campaign for his hotels and golf resorts and the presidency is sort of an afterthought.
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posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: Byrd

What did he say that was wrong? Or was it the fact the golf course was part of the equation?

Seems like he is right, O-care is bad, by design by the republicans and the dems. Remember how long both parties argued about the super-duper healthcare bill. Both dems and reps made a crap health care bill but the dems were the only party dumb enough to vote for it.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: Byrd

Okay, what is wrong with golf?

Did I miss something?!



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posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: Byrd


Are you talking about Trumps golf course in Florida that he caught hell for allowing Black people to join, at the despair of the wealthy elite in the area?



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 11:56 AM
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Are the green fees going up like Obama.Care rates are?




posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: Byrd


Here in Texas, our Dear Governor refused to implement Obamacare. As a result, our premiums are much higher because the insurance companies can offer lower rates elsewhere by sticking us with the bill.



Well that's interesting.

Maybe the intellectuals can give us a state by state comparison with details of rates and increases.




posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 12:05 PM
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It is pretty clear he is trying to milk this for all it is worth before the end of election. He has made a fortune off the run. His chances at the presidency are done even LA times show him losing and that is a first. So he will hold more functions at his resorts and other spots while overcharging for everything since it is all on the GOPs dime.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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Ummm...


The roughly 1.3 million Texans who bought health insurance under the Affordable Care Act will likely have fewer, more expensive coverage options in 2017, as health plans continue to announce they will no longer sell their products in Texas.


Source

CNN bust in a lie. Gee, go figure.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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What did he say that was wrong?


This


"I can say that all of my employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare,"


Here's why:


Trump's comments sparked questions about whether his employees receive insurance through the health insurance exchanges set up under Obama's signature law, which would mean he does not offer private health insurance to those employees.

Asked by a reporter after the event whether his employees have health care coverage through Obamacare, Trump replied: "Some of them. Most of them, no."

Clarifying Trump's remarks, the general manager of Trump's property in Doral, David Feder, said "99% of our employees are insured through our hotel." "Over 90%, without a doubt," he added.

Feder said all of his employees who work more than 30 hours a week are eligible for the company's private health insurance coverage and that he presumed only part-time or seasonal workers would have to go through Obamacare exchanges. He said the company "picks up 70% of premiums."
www.cnn.com...


At least 90% of the workers Trump claimed were having "tremendous health care problems" are insured through Trump's business, NOT "Obamacare"!

Donald Trump is either the most ignorant fool ever to run for president, or a flat out deceitful liar.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 12:22 PM
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At least 90% of the workers Trump claimed were having "tremendous health care problems" are insured through Trump's business, NOT "Obamacare"!


The new normal, if it has tires or it you have health insurance, you are going to have problems with it .

Ocare has made a failing health care system go on the fast track. It didn't address the cost. It's like yelling at the (min wage) gas station cashier about the price of gas. Our country (US) pays the most $ for health care and gets 37th in performance.

The dems and repubs debated this bill for months, and they came up with this goat scr#w, then the dems were the ONLY party dumb enough to vote for it?.

www.nejm.org...
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posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 12:43 PM
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I have no idea what you're on about! 90% of Trumps workers aren't on "Obamacare", they're using Trump's insurance.
"TrumpCo" is paying 70% of the premium cost, so his employees aren't having "Obamacare problems" or any major premium problems. Trump misled/lied to the public and the press in his speech today.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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First day back from the mighty Congo where there is no news/internet?

Ocare has screwed ALL insurance policies up. The new normal is high monthly payments with high deductibles. Paying medical insurance is like paying for a mortgage for a super duper nice house, but no house (and really no insurance).
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posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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Perhaps you've forgoten how premiums were soaring unchecked, before the ACA, or how women paid extra, or how if someone had a precondition they couldn't find coverage; babies with prenatal conditions for example, or how there were lifetime caps on insurance coverage.......



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 12:54 PM
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wait, are you in some ultra strange dimension way trying to blame Trump for the AMAZING FAILURE of the Obama Legacy?

This is beyond comical.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: seasonal

Perhaps you've forgoten how premiums were soaring unchecked, before the ACA, or how women paid extra, or how if someone had a precondition they couldn't find coverage; babies with prenatal conditions for example, or how there were lifetime caps on insurance coverage.......


perhaps you were living on another planet (which seems much more likely due to your lack of knowledge) but before Obama care, insurance for a single person, good health, in their early 30's was about ...........$180 a month, now that same person must pay about $400 or better.

These are things that can be verified, proven, and solidified, so spin whatever crap you like, but lies will only make you look idiotic.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

I can't wait until this election is over and the ACA is fixed. I think both Clinton and Trump will make it single payer, and it's long overdue.

Today on the radio I was listening to Rush Limbaugh go on and on about death panels, and how Hillary is going to let government bureaucrats decide when you die. Such a ridiculous, made up issue.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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We're much better off now with the ACA, as a whole, than we were before. Too bad Obama didn't get what he proposed, in the first place, single payer. And, too bad the Republicans had to screw everything up, to give us what we have today!


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posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
perhaps you were living on another planet (which seems much more likely due to your lack of knowledge) but before Obama care, insurance for a single person, good health, in their early 30's was about ...........$180 a month, now that same person must pay about $400 or better.


In good health is the key phrase. Sick people need insurance too. Also, coverage caps were a very real thing. If you got cancer, you would almost certainly pass the cap and go bankrupt with medical bills despite the fact you had insurance.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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Try to complain about 1 item at a time, it gets difficult to school the unwilling when they f-wail and change the subject all the time.


Perhaps you've forgoten how premiums were soaring unchecked




I have no idea what you're on about! 90% of Trumps workers aren't on "Obamacare", they're using Trump's insurance.


25%-75% increases are a new and improved health insurance item that is now normal. Hey the system is broken, it will crash. It isn't Obama's, Hillary's, Pelosi's, Bush's, Repubs or the dems fault alone. It's all their fault. They didn't address the COST, this is where competition is supposed to come in. But it wasn't allowed. They sided with pharma and huge hospital corps that I image give heavily to their re-election campaigns.

Medical care is a non-elastic cost. Meaning you need it and will pay whatever it costs, and that needs to be regulated from the 500% per pill over night increase phama crooks to the $2500 for a 30 min MRI thieves.


The reason heath insurance is expensive is because hospitals charge so much. Seems simple, but many many people don't get it.



posted on Oct, 25 2016 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

Notice how you took the real scandal, rising Obamacare premiums ( when the opposite was promise) and somehow made this about Trump. It has nothing to do with Trump, or ANY Republican for that matter. Are you paid to make these posts? Your avatar is the height of irony.



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