Workers will simply try to survive as tech takes over

originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined

If ever those dystopian futures where corporations take over and employ all, now would be that time we'd see it.

Welcome to Costco, I love you.

It's been happening for a while actually. It's like one long silent corporate power grab and it's been happening everywhere for a long time.

It was even openly admitted to in the movie "Network" back in the 70's for anyone who bothered to listen.

The world is a business, Mr. Beale!

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: kosmicjack

Was it "My Dinner with Andre".

Yeah, that's it.

a reply to: mOjOm

The interest paid to the federal reserve is in turn paid to federal government. It is largely pointless exercise that exists for a number of historical and legal reasons but the government is effectively borrowing from itself to be create money. If it was to change the process and create the money directly via the tresuary the net effect would be pretty much the same.

a reply to: mOjOm
I commented on this long ago:

I would like to throw some ideas out for discussion (argue these, ask questions or bring your own thoughts) The NWO thus far is not complete, therefore the 'promise of' must be enough to lure those who are brought into the circle to entrust their children and children's children into the fold (of safe, secure survival). This would include allowing the brains behind this ingenious plan to give those 'in the loop, but not quite yet secured' to be given notice if something occurs. This is why the gestures (symbols) of others are given in public view...in order that those who are part or contributing TO the group know to ignore or bypass the logic of it all, because it's purpose is not of their purpose but of the 'whole'. Thus, whyele would musicians/movie stars etc even care? considering they have millions and millions, isn't that enough to satisfy them? Obviously not, since they have been told that money isn't they key--money in their hands via the hearts and minds they have distracted, through the hard earned money they took from people who could have otherwise done something more productive, money is the reward for changing a person's mood (up or down) or perhaps even luring their soul's toward a demonic state of being. some key points of the beginning and then the final inclusion (livelihood) of them (including daily life, occupation,economy (free trade system), Medicine/Health, commodities and most importantly how the Law will work (Justice, freedom, sexuality, birth/death): firstly, to those of us not included (and to those that actually survive) will be as the mercy (none will be given unless intense petition is done on behalf of such person by a member) of those that 'own' us. This will be done on a first serve/monetary/stock/power/attention basis. Those that have created wealth (and we know what wealth is, it is merely accumulation of 'something' on the premise of taking time/energy/creativity from others. We all know this is what $$ means. It is the most apt who have the most, by the ability to *destroy yet another generation by building it up. (* to be continued another time). The Life: Life will be spacious. Families will have beyond belief, spread throughout the world (chosen locations) but mostly on a time-share basis. No peoples will actually have a 'homeland' so to speak of, since they will move on a sched. for designated tasks. No actual home base (in premise to keep up creativity and a cleverly timed evolutionary process *planned*). Occupation: No one would have one specialty. Different skills are available in every person therefore they are shifted to remove any instinctual habit forming or stagnancy. One could be a doctor one day, a fisherman the next (who needs a vacation after that??). It is similar to the Scientology (that we are all with, but just using S as an example) method. You go where you are needed and necessary and move on to elsewhere just as necessary. It could be by being in the military and having 3 choice locations, fav. occupations but if life calls those are --so be it. But the three would be highly recommended to keep one happy. Economy: No money, a point system of sorts instead. Each area of the planet is obviously prone to be productive in each of the many means of (food, water, mining, etc). Those areas will be the basis of the rest of us being in existence (slavery). Each occupation may have a point system according to energy spent (physical or mental) but in general most occupations are happily done, if not enjoyed incredibly (especially since one is not done for so long that it becomes dull or monotonous). Medicine: Will be closer to the holistic method again. Actual technology will be used when necessary but less likely to occur because of the cleaner environment, water and ability to aid in genetic regeneration/restoration techniques. Each location has free medical and doctors on-site or within in case of emergency. The cures that have been hidden (cancer etc) soon will not be needed because cells become healthier because of the gene-cleaning due to the lack of toxins and . Law: Law within these boundaries and peoples is simple, based upon the 10 Commandments (lie, steal, cheat, etc) but akin to a tribe-structure in which everyone knows your business...they KNOW your business. All 'crimes' are televised (even petty theft) similarly as Judge Judy and this sort of ideal is enough to prevent anyone from committing a crime (since the family, even friends are also mentioned or shown). Guild or innocence is easily discovered or 'judged', even perhaps by phone vote (American Idol style), all is calculated and the person (his family) is fined points (which they also achieve by being better citizens, not just by the work they do). Worse case --your loved one is so much trouble that they become slave-material or encouraged to death by suicide (for the family's benefit). Families that have been the victim of said crimes will weigh heavily and also be represented (perhaps in person) to aid in the punishment process, if any. Victims (or family) may also be given choice to allow to choose the fate of the guilty party (even if it is expulsion from that 'area' for a lifetime or prison or death--perhaps even servitude to the victim's family). *reminds me of the Seinfeld 'butler' episode: Education will be essential, strict yet creative. Slaves will not be educated, their memories wiped clean of any ideals of a 'constitution' or rights from their parents or other. Education that has been hidden from the masses will now be taught (including the esoteric). Whichever branch of education a person seeks to be interesting and enjoyed will be encouraged but not exclusive or necessary. If one does well in for example 'medicine' they are encouraged but no extra points are deserving because of that, no more than those of a creative (artist) nature and visa versa. Occupation: All areas (farming, cooking, nursing, even prison (slave) guard/medical, technology are given rotation (to those that qualify or request). Every occupation is done for the good of all. Even musicians and artists (actors) they 'sing for their supper' again. No more divas, no more movie stars...it is merely a job. A job as important and equal to the gardener (because he is also an artist who enjoys his work). Economy: All rations are traded. Merely putting in a chit and it arrives. Once given they cannot be traded or bartered for other rations but returned or kept (if ). Accumulation of goods is frowned upon (for it upsets the very system). You get what you need, living well is not difficult, you will have the best of everything. Slaves: Simpletons. Uneducated, unspoken to, to even be able to speak at all (perhaps grown up learning the symbols to know their trade ONLY). Castrated chemically or physically. Those that are not are separated from the opposite sex to avoid the trouble of protection mode therefore disruption. Unable to speak ( disabled *planet of the apes style) or hearing disabled is a given. This avoids the possibility of even translating 'the nwo' language even if they did understand it, they wouldn't be able to speak to teach it to others. Slaves are also used for medical advancements and/or sexual /pets. So, the PROMISE: Clean air, clean food, freedom (from cities,garbage, stress etc). Wouldn't or would YOU keep a secret and want to rid of others that you deem to be 'wasted space/resource sucking parasites' if this is the life of your grandchildren? What other promises do you think they are given to make them want so badly to rid of millions?? *more to follow *also, would like to add that the future generations of these people will be happily by this system, especially if there is a 'historic view' via old movies of us (we watch or hear of our own ancestors and how silly and primitive they seemed to us). Imagine how children 40 years from now will look at old videos of people knocking over for an ipad, or shooting someone else because of the color of their skin. Even imagine the time and resources put into the stupidity of killing millions of trees just for wrapping paper? Imagine anything, and it seems ridiculous when you think of how we live.

a reply to: dianashay

in other words WHY are WE working 8hrs/day to sell product to buy from others that sell product??? Think about it.

WHY? because there is a divide among population to trust others to sell/buy to others for a fair price. In the NWO it is a CALCULATED TRUST.

All family members will work, all created will be traded for FREE.

WE are a joke, for being slaves to buy crap from one another. FOOLS.

Tiny House Nation never looked soo good!

Retrofit that puppy with renewables and learn to deal with a composting toilet, Boom you're all set.

Throw a garden on the sides ( hanging basket pots )

Dunno about you guys, but surviving is the fun part, I love to innovate and repurpose, it's this living in a fixed hellscape full of people that make Trump and Hillary look like geniuses that somehow retain positions of influence that grinds me down.

That coupled with the fact that the total sum of the United States acts like a Strongman that has a horrid self esteem issue and thinks their weak and powerless when the fact is the opposite, we can do much more if we'd only understand that if we stopped buying products for even a few days, we'd shut down the wallets of so many and give our voices a much louder platform for change to take place.

a reply to: dianashay

Yikes. Think you could break that up a little in to some paragraphs or something???

Reading a giant block of unformatted text is not easy on the eyes.

a reply to: mOjOm

Sorry about that MOjOm, it was a copy paste from my previous post that barely made it into a forum post after chopping it.

In other words: accountants will no longer be needed (in the current sense), all goods will be traded (they steal the idea from indigenous/native tribes), all workers will be given benefit to another etc,etc. THAT is the promise anyways.

Yet I have to say it is a good system in my eyes, but it would be uncooperative with such a high population. IE: Your son/daughter may work in a ski chalet for 3 months, the other in a bakery. Then for 5 months work in in finance/distribution, another 11 in tourism/safety @ a national park.etc etc.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Azureblue

Governments already can and do create money,. The fact that they do it through the mechanism of a central bank is a purely operational mechanism, it is still government that creates money.

This however doesn't remove the need to tax in any way. Taxation is required for two essential reasons (plus a couple of discretionary ones). To create a demand for the currency and to create space in the economy for government spending.

It is sadly just fanciful thinking to believe that because governments create money there is no need for taxation.

While private banks do create money in a broad sense in that they create debt/credit that we use every day as money, this is fundamentaly different from the base money that governments create.

The key thing is that govt create 5-10% of all money created. What govt creates is banknotes and coins while banks create the other 90-95 % of all money created. Moreover, there is no law in any country that sets either an upper or lower limit on the amount of money the backs create (think of booms and busts here)

a reply to: Azureblue

Bank notes and coins are largely irrelevant as the amount in circulation is simply the demand for physical rather than electronic currency. What government creates is money in the banks own accounts at the federal reserve. This is the money that banks use to pay each other and to pay taxes.

What we use is generally credits created by the banks themselves on their own accounts. The key thing is that when a bank creates this type of money it creates both an asset and a liability. The money is continually created and destroyed as it is paid back. The amount of this in circulation is determined by the demand for loans and the willingness if banks to lend.

What you are suggesting is that government creates all money without taxation. Effectively trying to create an asset without creating a liability. This wouldn't work for two main reasons.

1. Without taxation there is nothing to give the money value.
2. If people did treat it as having value and the government kept creating without any means to remove from the system it would create massive amounts of inflation.

Government can and do create money. In my view they should create a lot more at the moment to stimulate demand (run a deficit) . This however does not mean they can stop taxation all together.