a reply to: wmd_2008
Thank you :-)
Very informative. I had a look at the Astrographers thread earlier today, and there sure was some pretty amazing pictures there. I bought a Newtonian
Reflector on a Dobsonian mount about a year ago, and it has provided me with some fantastic experiences. There really is nothing like looking at
Jupiter with it's moons with your own eyes. And "discovering" that Saturn really has rings, and you can see them !
Unfortunately budget constraints ment that I could not afford a tracking mount, so long exposures are difficult to manage. as I would have to track by
I admit that I understand why astrography has such a strong pull, because the first thing I thought when I looked at Jupiter through my telescope was
"I have to get a picture of this so that I can show people what I just saw..".
Well, I could not get it, of course, because I didn't have the equipment.
I understand your point about good quality pictures and video, and how it would convince more people that this phenomenon is real, but I disagree with
what I perceive is your stance, which I believe
to be since there are no good photos, it cannot be real. Correct me if I am wrong.
In the VIetnam "mystery helicopter" case that I referred you to earlier, the US army and Airforce took it very seriously indeed, because they were in
the middle of a war. So they did what they could, scrambling jets and tracking on radar, yet they came away with nothing
. Not even wreckage.
And then they tried to do a comparison of how difficult it would be to capture a real
helicopter, and almost failed... But they still got two
Now, how strange is that?
Could it not be, instead, that due to the characteristics of this phenomenon, whatever is causing it, taking good quality pictures is near impossible?
Instead of saying that all these thousands of people who are seeing some pretty weird things are somehow delusional or outright liars?
I don't have the answers for that, but I am not willing to write off all this "anectdotal evidence" just because the images and movies are
nonexistent, hoaxes and poor...
I am, however, willing to concede that there are a lot of "probable" misidentifaction of things, because I have done it myself once. Some atmospheric
weirdness caused Venus to appear much brighter than usual, and I got all excited and grabbed my decent Nikon and shot nearly half an hour of it. And,
of course, it was crap. How could it be anything else with a handheld DSLR without some serious optics attatched? It's a planet, so it's pretty far
away. I think I added the video, sans my pretty embarrasing commentary, to a thread you made once here on ATS.
But Venus, of course, does not go away, so after a while my excitement waned because it was moving with the rotation of the earth, and finally
Stellarium settled it.
Still, that is a long way away from some of the things you will find in the sightings database this thread is about.
However, I sincerely hope that if you one night get to see something weird in the sky, your telescope will be ready and your camera in hand, and we
will find out if it is possible to get some great photographic eveidence of these kinds of "objects" at all. I could even settle for a quick snapshot
of some secret aircraft or other :-)
And when people call "FAKE" and "CGI", I hereby solemnly promise that I shall not.
Because, I find you credible.