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Federal Judge obliterates anti-2A laws. Upholds the Constitution.

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posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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If the 'Board/Bored' allowed members to remove their own posts, I could fix this accidental multipost myself! DAMNED INEFFICIENT!!!!

edit on 10/22/2016 by WAstateMosin because: Can't remove accidental multipost because: Board wants to be 'Mommy and Daddy whom you ask for help'!



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: WAstateMosin
You cannot understand the right to defend oneself, one's family/loved ones, and one's home and property from harm by whatever means necessary? Whose kneeling slave/subject are you???!

Not that, I don't understand the need for guns. IMO it stems from fear, if you aren't using it for hunting or target shooting. That's all.
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posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: superman2012
This is one right that I will never understand. Congrats though?



Its our poor educational system. Its an easy to understand right when we understand the 2nd, in the context of historical justification as examined in the Federalist Papers and as a right then among the others for securing ourselves against the abuse of government, just to name one offender mentioned.

I understand the wording of it, not the use.

When are the populace going to "secure themselves against the abuse of government"? Think you'll win against the government?



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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Do the words 'Live free or die' or the expression 'Give me liberty or give me death' also mean nothing to you? We need to rewrite the Constitution in plain English and CLEARLY spell out our rights with ZERO ambiguity!



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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Aaaaaaaand..........then Hillary got elected.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: superman2012

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: superman2012
This is one right that I will never understand. Congrats though?



Its our poor educational system. Its an easy to understand right when we understand the 2nd, in the context of historical justification as examined in the Federalist Papers and as a right then among the others for securing ourselves against the abuse of government, just to name one offender mentioned.

I understand the wording of it, not the use.

When are the populace going to "secure themselves against the abuse of government"? Think you'll win against the government?



Government? You mean them, not we the people.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: WAstateMosin
If the 'Board/Bored' allowed members to remove their own posts, I could fix this accidental multipost myself! DAMNED INEFFICIENT!!!!


Yes I and I cant remember ever seeing one that bad......but good trigger finger, good trigger finger.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: superman2012

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: superman2012
This is one right that I will never understand. Congrats though?



Its our poor educational system. Its an easy to understand right when we understand the 2nd, in the context of historical justification as examined in the Federalist Papers and as a right then among the others for securing ourselves against the abuse of government, just to name one offender mentioned.

I understand the wording of it, not the use.

When are the populace going to "secure themselves against the abuse of government"? Think you'll win against the government?



Government? You mean them, not we the people.

Maybe I misunderstood you.
Were you saying the right is to "secure ourselves against the abuse of government"?



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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This is one right that I will never understand.


It's a right many people don't understand because Americans have been leading easy and heavily insulated lives from the kind of chaos that is seen around the world.

It's called normalcy bias. It's what causes people to walk around an injured person and not render assistance.

There are thousands of years of philosophical development and understanding that went into the rationale for the second amendment. The founders didn't simply say "we like guns, make it a right".

Further, you've asked if we think we can beat the government in a war. YES is the answer to that.

Take it from me. The government spent a lot of time and money to teach me counterinsurgency and combat tactics, and I'm not even a special troop. Just a Blackhawk crew chief and door gunner. Imagine what they teach EOD techs, SF soldiers, and others.

The military is a cross section of the population, albeit a small one, but many of the same sentiments you find here from people like me are mirrored in the military. At least half would not fight, or even defect to the side of revolutionaries and bring all their toys with them.

Besides, I spent the better part of a year watching the US get muddled down by illiterate savages with beat up AKs and home made explosives in Afghanistan.

An American insurgency would be the deadliest and most sophisticated insurgency ever seen anywhere, ever.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: WAstateMosin
a reply to: superman2012

Do the words 'Live free or die' or the expression 'Give me liberty or give me death' also mean nothing to you? We need to rewrite the Constitution in plain English and CLEARLY spell out our rights with ZERO ambiguity!

You think you're free!?!??

How would you rewrite the Constitution? What exactly needs clarification in it, in your mind?

My post was merely saying that I don't understand why people feel they need guns. That's all.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: WAstateMosin
a reply to: superman2012

Do the words 'Live free or die' or the expression 'Give me liberty or give me death' also mean nothing to you? We need to rewrite the Constitution in plain English and CLEARLY spell out our rights with ZERO ambiguity!


Only the control freaks ever had an ambiguity issue. The constitution already read nearly like a Bill of Rights for Dumbass. That makes sense as it was written for the government to read and control its actions.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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Well, I'm using my no-hdd tower, running Lubuntu 16.10 64-bit from a 32GB USB drive, ISP is DSL. With all that, it's easy to get stuck on 'full auto'.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: superman2012




This is one right that I will never understand.


It's a right many people don't understand because Americans have been leading easy and heavily insulated lives from the kind of chaos that is seen around the world.

It's called normalcy bias. It's what causes people to walk around an injured person and not render assistance.

There are thousands of years of philosophical development and understanding that went into the rationale for the second amendment. The founders didn't simply say "we like guns, make it a right".

Further, you've asked if we think we can beat the government in a war. YES is the answer to that.

Take it from me. The government spent a lot of time and money to teach me counterinsurgency and combat tactics, and I'm not even a special troop. Just a Blackhawk crew chief and door gunner. Imagine what they teach EOD techs, SF soldiers, and others.

The military is a cross section of the population, albeit a small one, but many of the same sentiments you find here from people like me are mirrored in the military. At least half would not fight, or even defect to the side of revolutionaries and bring all their toys with them.

Besides, I spent the better part of a year watching the US get muddled down by illiterate savages with beat up AKs and home made explosives in Afghanistan.

An American insurgency would be the deadliest and most sophisticated insurgency ever seen anywhere, ever.

That's where we differ. I don't believe a man, or a group of people, would have much of a chance against the US military. You're going to shoot at a an Apache or a Cobra attack helicopter with an AR-15?

Yes, the military would take many casualties, but the rebellion would take way more.

All they have to do is brand you and your rebel group as domestic terrorists and your neighbors and fellow military personnel would turn against you.

As for the 2nd, I don't understand how a population can get so up in arms (pun intended
) over this, when the country is falling apart. There are far more important issues facing the US (IMO) than the 2nd.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: superman2012

The people need guns for the reasons Madison, for one, laid out in the Federalist Papers and then were put down in the main in the 2nd amendment. Are you sure you really know this issue?




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