a reply to: lostgirl
When you think of Revelation or Apocalypse you think of destruction, death, angel armies maybe etc. And to be fair that is the outward bent of much
of Apocalyptic literature. It is a style of literature that came into form in the 150 BC's IIRC. The Apocalypse of John that is part of the bible is
one of many at the time. The books of Enoch are probably the most popular otherwise.
But that is not the meaning of those books (IMO). The concept of allegory and symbolism has been lost on our modern mind. There is a quote that says
something along the lines of "the modern man is foolish enough to believe that the ancients believed what they were writing was literal history".
There is an acronym PaRDeS used in jewish study. It is for the different levels the texts are speaking to. The S stands for Sod, which is the
highest level. It is the mystical or esoteric level. Eso=internal IN YOU. AND ME. This applies to the spiritual enlightenment of humanity.
Lets start with the opening line of Revelation which lays out what the whole book is about.
The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel
to his servant John,
The word Revelation means unveiling, or uncovering. So read the unveiling of Jesus the Christ. What would be unveiled? Think of an unveiling now.
I know it doesn't happen as much as it used to, but new cars, or products, or works of art would have an unveiling. After something had been
carefully crafted and refined, then ready to show the world.
Here are a few other uses of the word "Revelation/Unveiling" [G602 apokalypsis]
a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and for glory to your people Israel.”
In this passage it is about Simeon who "Came in the Spirit into the temple" and blessed the baby Jesus (Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s
day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet 11saying)
I highlight this passage because first Revelation is not something bad or scary here, and in fact never means that except to those who are afraid of
the light (certain politicians who don't like their deeds being exposed). The unveiling is of the light. Or the Spirit. What spirit? The breath of
God that is the animating force, the life of men. For many this light is covered over, or veiled. Veiled by what? We will get to that, lets look
more at the Revelation.
Rom 16:25 Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the
mystery that was kept secret for long ages
Gal 1:12 For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of
Eph 3:3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation
All of these speak of an event that changed Paul's theology
2 co 2
2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven
—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God
knows. 3And I know that this man was caught up into paradise—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— 4and he heard things
that cannot be told, which man may not utter.
The third heaven is the highest heaven (its the same as the 7th heaven in other apocalyptic literature) It is also known as the Lord's day, as in the
same day as John the Revelatory was caught into in the Spirit. This day is not a day but refers to being outside of time (in the true Holy of
Holies), where the entire history of creation is laid out to see (this is shown in the books of Enoch). This Lord's day concept is written about by
the highly respected Old Testament scholar.
So Pauls revelation involved going up in the Spirit into the heavens to learn unspeakable things, things that man can't handle. John's revelation
involves the same, as he is told to eat the scroll. Jesus said to his disciples "I have many more things to tell you, but you can't handle them now".
Why is that? because their minds are not ready. The veil remains. They had not received the tongues of fire on their heads in the upper room
(signifying a place of elevation, being brought up into the heavens). This was foreshadowed in the Moses story when he comes down from the mountain
(the elevated place) after having received the laws of God (the untold things, the secrets of the universe). The Israelites couldn't handle the glory
that was coming off of moses so the veil had to remain on his head.
2 Co 3 3And you show that you are a letter from Christ delivered by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of
stone but on tablets of human hearts. 6who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the
letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. (this is one of the major cyphers for understanding the symbolic or allegorical model.
Letter=Flesh=Death=Law of Moses=Earth=Adam=blood these contrast to Spirit=Life=Law of Christ=Heavens)
7Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses’ face because of its
glory, which was being brought to an end, 8will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory?
12Since we have such a hope, we are very bold, 13not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the
outcome of what was being brought to an end. 14But their minds were hardened. For to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains
unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away. 15Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. 16But when onec turns
to the Lord, the veil is removed. 17Now the Lordd is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18And we all, with unveiled
face, beholding the glory of the Lord,e are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another.f For this comes from the Lord
who is the Spirit.
Edit: I was going to continue another post but my daughter just woke up so I've got to get her. I'll continue later.
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