Top British General Warns of Nuclear War With Russia

a reply to: bluerabbit7788

6 ships including russias only aircraft carrier lol

... so America has the biggest whatever again. If aircraft carriers were penises Russians were really FU.

american defence budget 596 billion a year.

The American government ought to be ashamed to spend so much money on 'defence'.

originally posted by: bluerabbit7788
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

no need russia will be bankrupt in 6 months.

all they gotta do is keep dropping oil prices

increase sanctions.

russia burning through their gold reserves to prop up their falling economy and currency.

putin has 6 months of gold left.

so no need for war, just wait it out.

If that's the case then the Russians have nothing to lose, makes a war more possible doesn't it?

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
To be honest, those baltic states cause a lot of the trouble, with big brother USA and the NATO behind them. Now they feel like they could take revenge on russia, for what happened in history. Now these miniature states feel like they are big and powerful, because they are protected by the USA and the NATO.

But hey are only used for the NATO eastward enlargement, that causes most of the trouble. As base for the US/NATO "Anti-Rocket-Shield" at the borders of russia.

What would happen if russia would build an anti-rocket-shield in canada, mexico, cuba? (Sure, "only for self defense, like "we" do...)

Every average earth citizen that isn´t completely controlled by western mass media can see and feel who is the aggressor this time. It´s not russia that expanded with an west-enlargement to the borders of the USA. It´s not russia, for example, that is storing nuclear weapons in germany, that we even aren´t allowed to own. But if the owner is the USA, it´s ok... It´s not russia that destabilizes whole regions on earth, only for profits(oil) of some billionaires and multinational corporations.

There is a very good thread today, relating to this issue:
Clinton / Soros Operative paid million$ to agitate war with Russia

The axis of evil nowadays seems to be the US/UK axis. It´s the axis of evil that steals our freedoms, our liberty, with the cheap excuse to save our liberty and freedoms, from being destroyed by terrorists. Terrorists that are funded and supported by the west, as the world knows now. What a coincidence, isn´t it? "Our" secret services, politicians, "our" western system is doing the work for the terrorists that they created. Sure, that is just a coincidence...

I am afraid of "our" western, neo-conservative hardliners, falcons. Of "our" politician puppets and their surveillance systems to control the people(like China or North Corea), the citizens of the western states. I am afraid of "our" military "experts" that "warn" us because of "russian aggressions", to legitimate a maybe coming war with russia. Itßs too transparent that the western people should be made "ready for war", slowly and secretly, by propaganda and agitation.

All that happens for the profits of rich people, for billionaires, it´s their kind of a chess game. They are bored, have everything, too much of it. The only thing those individuals hunt for is more power, more and more power. To rule the world from behind the curtains, with their "NGO´s", their philanthropy, their economic hitmen etc. With their surveilance suystems to observe the people, to maybe suppress any protest or revolts, riots, before they even can start.

Why should russia nuke europe, right in front of it´s own doors? And wasn´t it the plan of the US, in the first cold war, to nuke germany, europe, if the russians would overrun "our" ridiculous Bundeswehr in... what was it, 23, 26 minutes or whatever short amount of time? The only one that has fear to be nuked by russia is the US (shadow) government(and maybe really germany, because we have to store the US nukes here, who knows). Like they are in fear that north corea could make it to the US with it´s missiles, in near future. Or iran, or whoever. In the end it´s all about the US, and the other nations of the western world are just dumb but willing followers. Ruled by the US. We all know it, living in this western states. We all know and see the propaganda, we are not that dumb anymore, we are not being reliant anymore of only tv and mass medias news papers for our informations.

Today the people know who is playing foul. And how. And very often, as we had to learn, it´s "us", "our" western rulers that are the foul players. There is no more trust in any "rulers" and their stories. Not even if are "good" western rulers and their stories. And not only the "bad" rulers, that are only bad because they don´t accept anything the US dictates to the rest of the world.

If any western "experts" tell me that the russians want tonuke us all, i know that this is part of the western aggression, the anti-russia propaganda. Because it´s the west that adds fuel to the fire, the whole time. If western, in addition to that MILITARY "experts" like UK generals tell me that russia wants to nuke the west, i know that in reality it´s the west that wants to nuke russia.

Because, in the western world nowadays war is peace, slavery is freedom, total observation is liberty, good is evil and evil is good!

I may be talking out my ass here (still a little drunken from last nights shenanigans), and i agree with most of what your saying, but to say Russia has never done these type of things, Cuban Missle Crisis comes to mind no?

originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: Oldtimer2

Your understanding of the US military, and its arsenal. Check out the F-22 most if not all of our enemies won't be able to see it on radar let alone achieve lock on. That's just one fighter. B-2, F-35, LRSB, and the an upgraded F-117 has been seen flying. The F-117 or b-2 has a classified high stealth companion still classified. Deep black projects. The list goes on. Also almost every active duty troop has combat experience. Can't say the same for almost every other country.

But yeah we'll get stomped you sure called it.

* still a little drunken so may be speaking fromy rear but* Stealth doesnt mean invisible to radar or lock, just reduces the signature (some to even the size of a sparrow or small bird) on said systems, as well as when a bomber opens its bay doors it still loghts up like moby dick on a fish finder if my understanding is correct..

Active duty these days is a joke most of the time.. You can claim active duty without even leaving state side.. never have to go to a combat theater to get your "time" in. And lets face it, how battle hardened can one really get in this backwardass America these day, for crist sakes we have a hard enough time figuring out which bathroom to use and which gender we "identify" as.

a reply to: brutus61

lol thats like russia in general living in gulags lol.

american inner cities live better than most russians lol.

russians make 200 dollars a month on average lol

originally posted by: Drkguardian

originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: Oldtimer2

Your understanding of the US military, and its arsenal. Check out the F-22 most if not all of our enemies won't be able to see it on radar let alone achieve lock on. That's just one fighter. B-2, F-35, LRSB, and the an upgraded F-117 has been seen flying. The F-117 or b-2 has a classified high stealth companion still classified. Deep black projects. The list goes on. Also almost every active duty troop has combat experience. Can't say the same for almost every other country.

But yeah we'll get stomped you sure called it.

* still a little drunken so may be speaking fromy rear but* Stealth doesnt mean invisible to radar or lock, just reduces the signature (some to even the size of a sparrow or small bird) on said systems, as well as when a bomber opens its bay doors it still loghts up like moby dick on a fish finder if my understanding is correct..

Active duty these days is a joke most of the time.. You can claim active duty without even leaving state side.. never have to go to a combat theater to get your "time" in. And lets face it, how battle hardened can one really get in this backwardass America these day, for crist sakes we have a hard enough time figuring out which bathroom to use and which gender we "identify" as.

american defence budget 596 billion a year

russian deence budget 40-60 billion a year depending on whose numbers you use lol

originally posted by: bluerabbit7788

originally posted by: Drkguardian

originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: Oldtimer2

Your understanding of the US military, and its arsenal. Check out the F-22 most if not all of our enemies won't be able to see it on radar let alone achieve lock on. That's just one fighter. B-2, F-35, LRSB, and the an upgraded F-117 has been seen flying. The F-117 or b-2 has a classified high stealth companion still classified. Deep black projects. The list goes on. Also almost every active duty troop has combat experience. Can't say the same for almost every other country.

But yeah we'll get stomped you sure called it.

* still a little drunken so may be speaking fromy rear but* Stealth doesnt mean invisible to radar or lock, just reduces the signature (some to even the size of a sparrow or small bird) on said systems, as well as when a bomber opens its bay doors it still loghts up like moby dick on a fish finder if my understanding is correct..

Active duty these days is a joke most of the time.. You can claim active duty without even leaving state side.. never have to go to a combat theater to get your "time" in. And lets face it, how battle hardened can one really get in this backwardass America these day, for crist sakes we have a hard enough time figuring out which bathroom to use and which gender we "identify" as.

american defence budget 596 billion a year

russian deence budget 40-60 billion a year depending on whose numbers you use lol

and?

and btw thats not whats actually spent on our defense. once black budgets, missing funds and over paid assholes are accounted for its much, much less that actually goes into defending us.

originally posted by: Drkguardian

originally posted by: bluerabbit7788

originally posted by: Drkguardian

originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: Oldtimer2

Your understanding of the US military, and its arsenal. Check out the F-22 most if not all of our enemies won't be able to see it on radar let alone achieve lock on. That's just one fighter. B-2, F-35, LRSB, and the an upgraded F-117 has been seen flying. The F-117 or b-2 has a classified high stealth companion still classified. Deep black projects. The list goes on. Also almost every active duty troop has combat experience. Can't say the same for almost every other country.

But yeah we'll get stomped you sure called it.

* still a little drunken so may be speaking fromy rear but* Stealth doesnt mean invisible to radar or lock, just reduces the signature (some to even the size of a sparrow or small bird) on said systems, as well as when a bomber opens its bay doors it still loghts up like moby dick on a fish finder if my understanding is correct..

Active duty these days is a joke most of the time.. You can claim active duty without even leaving state side.. never have to go to a combat theater to get your "time" in. And lets face it, how battle hardened can one really get in this backwardass America these day, for crist sakes we have a hard enough time figuring out which bathroom to use and which gender we "identify" as.

american defence budget 596 billion a year

russian deence budget 40-60 billion a year depending on whose numbers you use lol

and?

and btw thats not whats actually spent on our defense. once black budgets, missing funds and over paid assholes are accounted for its much, much less that actually goes into defending us.

if you include black budget ops spending and stuff its over 1.5 trillion a year on us defence spending

originally posted by: bluerabbit7788
a reply to: brutus61

lol thats like russia in general living in gulags lol.

american inner cities live better than most russians lol.

russians make 200 dollars a month on average lol

Not saying better or worse just expressing my opinion of how the gov. "wants" these areas in America so do very little to nothing at all about it.