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Top British General Warns of Nuclear War With Russia

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posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 03:55 AM
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Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania have been members of NATO since 2004 and are therefore protected under Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, the founding document of NATO, which states that an attack on one is an attack on all. A Russian attack on the Baltic states puts America at war with Russia -- meaning nuclear war, because Russia integrates nuclear weapons into every aspect of its military doctrine.

And don't think Russia would limit itself to the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. Any form of nuclear release by the Russians would almost certainly precipitate nuclear retaliation by the United States, and the dreadful reality of mutually assured destruction and the end of life as we know it would follow.
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These are not the words of a two-bit conspiracy theorist. This is not "saber-rattling" by the United States. This is not "saber-rattling" by Russia.

This is a warning by a concerned third party who is an expert on these matters. This could be the most important article we've had on this forum concerning the current problems between the U.S. and Russia.

It's easy to discount this type of warning when comes from a non-expert such as Jill Stein. The article linked below is close to as significant a warning in my opinion.

US and Russia 'will go to war' unless proxy Syria conflict resolved, Turkey warns

I don't think the Turkish Deputy Prime Minister has the clout of a top British general. Also, the Turkish Deputy Prime Minister apparently never warned about the possibility of nuclear war.
edit on 22-10-2016 by Profusion because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:11 AM
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Just more bs and fear mongering.. keeps the population in check and easy to control.. from both sides.
There will be no nuclear war I can assure you of that.. those in power have to much to lose..



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:13 AM
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a reply to: Misterlondon

Nope, not BS i'm afraid, you see, the Armada are coming to stop all nuclear threats on earth.


Proof

See !!



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:20 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

I keep hearing this crap about Russia attacking the Baltic states...I wonder what's the basis for that claim.

Oh look...he took Crimea...now...he's going for the World. First the Baltics, then he's gonna do Germany, then France, then Britain, and then...the USA...omg !!!!!!!! Putin is obviously craaaaazy. We must stop him on this ludicrous campaign of evil.

Best preemptively nuke him...



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 04:21 AM
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More BS


already in the Northsea

www.nzherald.co.nz... 20

And decoding Nato transponders :

www.dw.com... g-civilian-targets-in-syria/a-36110281

So let's get...



Still people that cant see whats going on Sorry I'm loosing it ... what's next.

Directed EMF attacks on Trunklines ??

edit on 10222016 by frenchfries because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:06 AM
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I suggest people pay attention to the actions and not the talk. Well what actions have been taken.
A: russia opted out of nuke weapons pact
B: they set up air defensive system on the outskirts of syria.
C: moved their ship fleet in preparation for war
D: had a massive bomb drill with its citizens.
E: opted out of a cease-fire in syria.

But you know its all just talk to make hillary clinton look bad. I personal think this isnt normal bs like the hilldogs and obamabots will make you believe. Normally saber rattles are just tough guy talk and a small show of force before negotiations this is well past that point.

negotiations have failed ie cease fire agreement pulled off the table.

Opting out of the nuclear weapons pact=Big deal
Russia broke the line in the sand obama drew.
Already there have been losses on bothsides aka not proxy fighters which is syrian army and the rebels but americans and russians.

Obama was pussy footing around acting like a big shot and didnt think russia would respond back but they did in syria. Ps this isnt only a syria issue with hillary she plans on going after Iran once she is in office. She is serously threatening two russian alliance members. Which is like russia saying its going to attack Israel and england.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:09 AM
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originally posted by: Misterlondon
Just more bs and fear mongering.. keeps the population in check and easy to control.. from both sides.
There will be no nuclear war I can assure you of that.. those in power have to much to lose..


Sorry, but..

You can't assure anyone of anything. No one can predict if and/or when a major war with Russia will occur, or not.


Has nothing to do with fear mongering. In fact, stating this article/post is BS is the pot calling the kettle black.




posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:12 AM
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originally posted by: Profusion

Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania have been members of NATO since 2004 and are therefore protected under Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, the founding document of NATO, which states that an attack on one is an attack on all. A Russian attack on the Baltic states puts America at war with Russia -- meaning nuclear war, because Russia integrates nuclear weapons into every aspect of its military doctrine.

And don't think Russia would limit itself to the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. Any form of nuclear release by the Russians would almost certainly precipitate nuclear retaliation by the United States, and the dreadful reality of mutually assured destruction and the end of life as we know it would follow.
SOURCE


These are not the words of a two-bit conspiracy theorist. This is not "saber-rattling" by the United States. This is not "saber-rattling" by Russia.

This is


Saber rattling by America's little lap dog!

Seriously, it's the UK, the 51st state, your "special" friend. I hate the fact that if the US goes to war so does the UK...



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: Profusion

Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania have been members of NATO since 2004 and are therefore protected under Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, the founding document of NATO, which states that an attack on one is an attack on all. A Russian attack on the Baltic states puts America at war with Russia -- meaning nuclear war, because Russia integrates nuclear weapons into every aspect of its military doctrine.

And don't think Russia would limit itself to the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. Any form of nuclear release by the Russians would almost certainly precipitate nuclear retaliation by the United States, and the dreadful reality of mutually assured destruction and the end of life as we know it would follow.
SOURCE


These are not the words of a two-bit conspiracy theorist. This is not "saber-rattling" by the United States. This is not "saber-rattling" by Russia.

This is a warning by a concerned third party who is an expert on these matters. This could be the most important article we've had on this forum concerning the current problems between the U.S. and Russia.

It's easy to discount this type of warning when comes from a non-expert such as Jill Stein. The article linked below is close to as significant a warning in my opinion.

US and Russia 'will go to war' unless proxy Syria conflict resolved, Turkey warns

I don't think the Turkish Deputy Prime Minister has the clout of a top British general. Also, the Turkish Deputy Prime Minister apparently never warned about the possibility of nuclear war.


lol just propaganda bs by russian media

putins gonna bankrupt russia in 6 months, its why he is stuping to the low level of thinking his fear propaganda is gonna work lol.

all they gotta do is wait or increase sanctions on russia which they are already talking about, in 22 days the elected president will increase sanctions cuz of election interference.

fed will hike rates also dropping commodity prices and emerging markets

so putins scared of hillary.

cuz she will not hesitate to raise sanctions in 22 days.

and the way puting burning through his gold reserves to prop up the falling russian economy and currency, they estimate he has about 6 months left.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:13 AM
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To be honest, those baltic states cause a lot of the trouble, with big brother USA and the NATO behind them. Now they feel like they could take revenge on russia, for what happened in history. Now these miniature states feel like they are big and powerful, because they are protected by the USA and the NATO.

But hey are only used for the NATO eastward enlargement, that causes most of the trouble. As base for the US/NATO "Anti-Rocket-Shield" at the borders of russia.

What would happen if russia would build an anti-rocket-shield in canada, mexico, cuba? (Sure, "only for self defense, like "we" do...)

Every average earth citizen that isn´t completely controlled by western mass media can see and feel who is the aggressor this time. It´s not russia that expanded with an west-enlargement to the borders of the USA. It´s not russia, for example, that is storing nuclear weapons in germany, that we even aren´t allowed to own. But if the owner is the USA, it´s ok... It´s not russia that destabilizes whole regions on earth, only for profits(oil) of some billionaires and multinational corporations.

There is a very good thread today, relating to this issue:
Clinton / Soros Operative paid million$ to agitate war with Russia

The axis of evil nowadays seems to be the US/UK axis. It´s the axis of evil that steals our freedoms, our liberty, with the cheap excuse to save our liberty and freedoms, from being destroyed by terrorists. Terrorists that are funded and supported by the west, as the world knows now. What a coincidence, isn´t it? "Our" secret services, politicians, "our" western system is doing the work for the terrorists that they created. Sure, that is just a coincidence...

I am afraid of "our" western, neo-conservative hardliners, falcons. Of "our" politician puppets and their surveillance systems to control the people(like China or North Corea), the citizens of the western states. I am afraid of "our" military "experts" that "warn" us because of "russian aggressions", to legitimate a maybe coming war with russia. Itßs too transparent that the western people should be made "ready for war", slowly and secretly, by propaganda and agitation.

All that happens for the profits of rich people, for billionaires, it´s their kind of a chess game. They are bored, have everything, too much of it. The only thing those individuals hunt for is more power, more and more power. To rule the world from behind the curtains, with their "NGO´s", their philanthropy, their economic hitmen etc. With their surveilance suystems to observe the people, to maybe suppress any protest or revolts, riots, before they even can start.

Why should russia nuke europe, right in front of it´s own doors? And wasn´t it the plan of the US, in the first cold war, to nuke germany, europe, if the russians would overrun "our" ridiculous Bundeswehr in... what was it, 23, 26 minutes or whatever short amount of time? The only one that has fear to be nuked by russia is the US (shadow) government(and maybe really germany, because we have to store the US nukes here, who knows). Like they are in fear that north corea could make it to the US with it´s missiles, in near future. Or iran, or whoever. In the end it´s all about the US, and the other nations of the western world are just dumb but willing followers. Ruled by the US. We all know it, living in this western states. We all know and see the propaganda, we are not that dumb anymore, we are not being reliant anymore of only tv and mass medias news papers for our informations.

Today the people know who is playing foul. And how. And very often, as we had to learn, it´s "us", "our" western rulers that are the foul players. There is no more trust in any "rulers" and their stories. Not even if are "good" western rulers and their stories. And not only the "bad" rulers, that are only bad because they don´t accept anything the US dictates to the rest of the world.

If any western "experts" tell me that the russians want tonuke us all, i know that this is part of the western aggression, the anti-russia propaganda. Because it´s the west that adds fuel to the fire, the whole time. If western, in addition to that MILITARY "experts" like UK generals tell me that russia wants to nuke the west, i know that in reality it´s the west that wants to nuke russia.

Because, in the western world nowadays war is peace, slavery is freedom, total observation is liberty, good is evil and evil is good!



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: bluerabbit7788

no one cares about syria, syria has been russias puppet for decades, its why they got a miltary port there.

they just securing borders so the mess in syria stays in syria.

its a civil war in syria, russians gonna be bogged down in syria for decades when the guerilla war starts.

its called blow back in miltary terms.

kill millions of civilians, destroy infrastructure, eliminate any prospects of jobs, lotta angry relatives and people of those that were killed.

also kids growing up in the environment, they hang out with and idolize the guys with guns who are rebels, so kids grow up with that as well.

russians gonna be mired in that guerilla civil war for a while.

they just dont want that spreading across the borders freely so they securing iraqs borders.

that instability there the arab states will fund the civil war its gonna go on or decades cuz they dont like assad.

and saudi arabia does not like iran, they have a war going on to make sure yemen doesnt become irans puppet beside saudi arabia disrupting their oil transport.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:19 AM
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a reply to: digital01anarchy

negotiations in syria peace deal failed because russia was trying to link sanctions being lifted on russia.

europeans and americans said no.

russia will be bankrupt in 6 months

putin knows this, thats why he is scared in 22 days when hillary takes office.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:23 AM
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originally posted by: frenchfries
More BS


already in the Northsea

www.nzherald.co.nz... 20

And decoding Nato transponders :

www.dw.com... g-civilian-targets-in-syria/a-36110281

So let's get...



Still people that cant see whats going on Sorry I'm loosing it ... what's next.

Directed EMF attacks on Trunklines ??


6 ships including russias only aircraft carrier lol

russia has 1 aircraft carrier.

japan has 3 aircraft carriers lol

americans have 20 aircraft carriers.

american defence budget 596 billion a year.

russian defence budget 40-60 billion a year depending on whose numbers you use lol.

if there is a naval battle it will be a short one.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:25 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

no need russia will be bankrupt in 6 months.

all they gotta do is keep dropping oil prices

increase sanctions.

russia burning through their gold reserves to prop up their falling economy and currency.

putin has 6 months of gold left.

so no need for war, just wait it out.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:27 AM
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Daily Mail

If you want to survive then leave all major European cities, get out of the UK NOW. Your only hope for survival is to go to some remote island far away from any place that will be attacked.

Below is an esoteric image that was posted on the Daily Mail (British newspaper) website. It is to tell the ones in the know; Its time to pack up and leave.

Note the last part on the plane says Cleaning Up…

As long as 22 Everest’s end to end: The staggering size of a plane big enough to carry all the people flying RIGHT NOW



edit on 22-10-2016 by ImLeon because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

The reason and the only reason that this scenario has escalated to this point is because of the complete scum in the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton's influence to blame every kind of debauchery happening to her on Russia, rather than any of these homicidal human rejects taking even an ounce of responsibility for their own actions and the real reason they are being judged and slowly bled out in the public's complete view, and these things altogether show us that these people would rather let the world burn down all around us and them, rather than be able to personally account for their own actions. This is something truly showing just how rotten our worthless so called leaders are, and with people this far gone into the maw of damnation there is nothing that can be done unless they come clean and confess EVERYTHING they have done in front of the entire world.



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:33 AM
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originally posted by: frenchfries
More BS


already in the Northsea




The Russian Aircraft Carrier? Yeah, it's heading for a final assault on Aleppo, it let the UK know and, as always, it got an escort through UK waters...



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 05:33 AM
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a reply to: bluerabbit7788




no need russia will be bankrupt in 6 months.

all they gotta do is keep dropping oil prices

increase sanctions.


Just keep dropping prices eh ?...




posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

This has been told many times before,and makes me mad how ignorant some are to the facts with their"saber rattling" remarks,I think those days are over,US hellbound for destruction,and for the ones saying how superior our army is,get real we would get our asses handed to us,we need to do something fast,or it will be too late



posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: Oldtimer2

thats as delusional as putin wanting trump to win the election.

trumps in trouble he cant even win utah which has been republican for over 50 years.

because of trump, the independent candidate is leading over the republican candidate.

if trump cant take utah which is the reddest state in the union, hillary is going to win by a landslide.




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