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At charity roast, Donald Trump delivered what might as well be a campaign eulogy

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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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Yesterday seems to have been a bad day for Trump, topped off by an audience that did not find his attempted humor to be clever or funny. He's not winning over any more people and may be losing ground among those with lukewarm support and seems both bewildered and down over the whole thing.

Earlier in the day he spoke briefly at a rally of only 1500 people - down from the crowds he'd come to expect. And he walked away from two interviews when reporters asked him questions he didn't like. There was no fight or defense; only a retreat.

But he couldn't retreat at the Alfred E. Smith dinner - a white-tie dinner and fundraiser for Catholic charities in New York City. This wasn't Trump's usual crowd, and he started it off with what sounded like a snark against the people there.


“A special hello to all of you in this room who have known and loved me for many, many years. It's true,” Trump said as he took command of the dais at the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner on Thursday evening, wearing a white tie and a black tuxedo coat that he kept tugging at.

“The politicians,” he continued. “They've had me to their homes, they've introduced me to their children, I've become their best friends in many instances. They've asked for my endorsement, and they always wanted my money. And even called me really a dear, dear friend. But then suddenly, decided when I ran for president as a Republican, that I've always been a no-good, rotten, disgusting scoundrel. And they totally forgot about me.”

I don't know who crafted or approved that line, but that's one of the worst openings I've ever read. The audience didn't like it, either. It sounded bitter and accusatory in the same breath.

And then he dug himself in deeper. This is a crowd that reads a lot and keeps up with many news sources.


“Hillary is so corrupt, she got kicked off the Watergate Commission,” Trump said, citing a false Internet rumor as the crowd turned on him and started to boo, something that simply doesn't happen at lavish charity dinners at the Waldorf Astoria hotel.


And he couldn't stop digging the hole deeper. Remember that he's speaking with Catholics...


Trump would go on to accuse Clinton of “pretending not to hate Catholics” and mock the Clinton Foundation's work in Haiti. At one point, he wondered aloud if the crowd was booing him or Clinton, to which someone in the crowd answered: “You!”


I don't know who wrote the speech (perhaps Donald himself) but they certainly hadn't done any homework on the Alfred Smith charities. The Clinton Foundation (unlike the Trump Foundation) worked with the Smith charity and funded some of their Haiti efforts. So in essence, it was a slam against the people who had invited him.

After that performance, Clinton's remarks were probably taken a LOT better than they would have been if she spoke first (the article has transcribed some of the REAL zingers she made)

One interesting exchange was this:


And she gave a shout-out to Trump's campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, saying: “She's working day and night for Donald and because she's a contractor, he's probably not even going to pay her.” Conway, who has become subtly critical of her boss, quoted Clinton in a tweet and wrote: “A shout out from @HillaryClinton at #AlSmithDinner.”


The past two weeks have seen people leaving his staff and campaign.

It may be an eulogy (unintended. I think Trump will still go around swinging, reciting the same lines from BeforeItsNews and so forth (sites that are banned on ATS because they're full of hoaxed information)

But the word picture of Trump at the Columbus airport, provided by the reporter, I think shows that he's realizing that he's come to the end of the ride.


Soon after, he was back at the Columbus airport, slowly climbing the steps to his personal jet. He was alone, holding a black umbrella as a light rain fell. There was a heaviness to his ascent.


The article about the dinner and Trump's Thursday at the Washington Post



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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:41 PM
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Why don't you post the video?

Donald Trump dominated that speech and everyone else in that room. It was a pleasure to watch. What an amazing man


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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:43 PM
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Sounds like clever wording to make you believe that. The media has such a way with words as to feed you or people with opinions.


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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: Nikola014
Why don't you post the video?

Donald Trump dominated that speech and everyone else in that room. It was a pleasure to watch. What an amazing man

a) I don't watch videos. I don't have time. I do read transcripts, however, and news articles.
b) not everyone on ATS has the time or bandwidth or devices to watch videos. Many browse during lunch or quick moments when they can. A video blaring out sound can be risky if they're at work.
c) How is it dominating when you alienate your audience (who might have contributed to your campaign) and they start booing you?


(post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

So are you thinking the people at the dinner didnt find his joke funny or were they just booing him because they didnt like him.

When I heard the joke it wasnt funny.

This could be off topic but South Park had the best episode two days ago that captures exactly what your saying.



posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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Another Trump Euology...ha. he always resurrects to be even stronger than before.


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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

So, why do you make a thread about something you know NOTHING about?

Seems a little silly if you ask me. Trump said it himself. Hillary's team was in that crowd. Including the head of CNN, ABC, CBC...etc. Donald Trump dominating that speech.

Again, it was a pleasure to listen to him


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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

It was a very uncomfortable event.

What was supposed to be a light-hearted event where the two could take small jabs at each other, turned in to another stump speech by Trump.

I don't know if he didn't understand what the event was, or if he just didn't have the humor in him to pull it off.


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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: Nikola014

Anyone that would say that is a bigger fool then Trump himself.


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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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Donald Trump was booed in a room full of liberals when he made jokes about their leader?

That never should have been a headline.

Donald Trump saying "Lotsa luck. Good job Hillary" came across as, "you win, but the country will suffer for it".



posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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I'm not trump Fan but to me he was calling out a room of plutocrats and elitists.

Of course they booed him.
I'll never vote for him but I thought he did good for being in a room of people that hate him.

Like you say, his remarks made Hrc look calm collected and not so funny. Probbaly on purpose, being the Clinton shill he is.


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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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Trump destroyed everyone in that room, and stood up for everyone outside of it.



posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

A) Then you lose the humanity of the situation, the facial expressions, the inflections and tone of voice at delivery, etc. You are doing yourself a disservice not watching videos (and if you have time to author threads, you have time to watch at least SOME of the video that your thread references)

B) But many, if not most, do. Videos don't automatically start playing at top volume when included in threads.

C) I did see some of the video, and it was pretty bad, but I haven't watched it in its entirety yet to get the full picture, as apparently you have not either. Again, it might be something worth doing if you're going to author a thread on the matter.

 


ETA: I watched the whole of the video, and most of the speech/jokes went over rather well, but when he started talking a few things that are controversial (her hating Catholics, being the main one), the crowd got a little less endearing toward him. The majority of it went over fine, though. This article in you OP mischaracterizes the bulk of it. It also doesn't help that he has TERRIBLE timing with his jokes.

There were a couple "boos" when he closed the speech, but most was just simple applause.
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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

Complete nonsense of an OP - what we've come to expect with these anti-Trump posts perpetuating media rubbish.
Both Trump and Hillary had digs at each other and Trump actually got more laughs.

It should also be noted that the before the dinner Cardinal Nolan slated Hillary Clinton and called on her to apologise for her words against Catholics. As for walking away from questions - Clinton did the same yesterday when she refused to answer why her campaign was secretly inciting violence.

You've been reading too much of the NYT.

Here are the two speeches.





The videos should have been in the op, but I guess the lies are not as effective if people can easily see the content.
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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:58 PM
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It's funny how the media talks about the boos, but they never discredit the leaks he's referencing. The boos are the least important thing. The boos came from the media corespondents in the audience. they can boos facts all they want.

This is one time where I will say donald is 100% right. It wasn't funny, there was no punchlines, but they are facts.


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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Nikola014
Why don't you post the video?

Donald Trump dominated that speech and everyone else in that room. It was a pleasure to watch. What an amazing man


Dominated????!!!

He looked and sounded like a 9 yr old w social anxiety and marginal reading ability, trying to publicly present a book report on "war and peace"

He was awful
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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:59 PM
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Hillary stumbling was a surprise...but nobody there laughed.



posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: Nikola014



Why don't you post the video?





Donald Trump Loudly Booed at the Al Smith Dinner



K~
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posted on Oct, 21 2016 @ 12:59 PM
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There is at least one thing that Trump said during his speech at this function that is completely true. It was when he said that this election has seen the most media biased ever. It is truly disgusting to watch a nation that has given so much for freedom become a Banana Republic. Founders and patriots past are crying out in despair for what has been so horribly squandered for the sake of the power hungry elite and their treacherous open border globalist complicity.
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