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Lets Get Ready to Rumble!!!! (Trump Vs Clinton) Tonight 9pm ET FINAL DEBATE

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posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 04:46 AM
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a reply to: AnkhMorpork

I stopped reading your post right when you erroneously assumed I bet on any of the horses in this circus sideshow.

Check your own judgmental thoughts at the ATS login screen, then come back.





posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 04:52 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
She gets stuff done. She's a change maker, and yeah, she's made a few or more than a few mistakes along the way, but at least with her you have someone for whom it might be at least possible that she's capable of learning from those mistakes.


I've got a joke for you...

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton walk into a bar.
Donald leans over, and with a smile on his face, says,
"The media is really tearing you apart for that Scandal."
Hillary: "You mean my lying about Benghazi?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean the massive voter fraud?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean the military not getting their votes counted?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Using my secret private server with classified material to Hide my Activities?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything Else?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, Hiring Cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean the drones being operated in our own country without The Benefit of the law?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it Declared Bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Turning Libya into chaos?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Being the mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the "moderate" terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya?
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII?"
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Leaving Iraq in chaos? "
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The DOJ spying on the press?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The NSA monitoring citizens' ?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Threats to all of Bill's former mistresses to keep them quiet?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean the INSIDER TRADING of the Tyson chicken deal I did where I invested $1,000 and the next year I got $100,000?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean when Bill met with Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, just before my hearing with the FBI to cut a deal?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: " You mean the one where my IT guy at Platte River Networks asked Reddit for help to alter emails?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean where the former Haitian Senate President accused me and my foundation of asking him for bribes?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean that old video of me laughing as I explain how I got the charges against that child rapist dropped by blaming the young girl for liking older men and fantasizing about them. Even though I knew the guy was guilty?
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean that video of me coughing up a giant green lunger into my drinking glass then drinking it back down?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean that video of me passing out on the curb and losing my shoe?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean when I robbed Bernie Sanders of the Democratic Party Nomination by having the DNC rig the nomination process so that I would win?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "You mean how so many people that oppose me have died in mysterious was?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Travel Gate? When seven employees of the White House Travel Office were fired so that friends of Bill and mine could take over the travel business? And when I lied under oath during the investigation by the FBI, the Department of Justice, the White House itself, the General Accounting Office, the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, and the Whitewater Independent Counsel?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "The scandal where, (while I was Secretary if State), the State Department signed off on a deal to sell 20% of the USA's uranium to a Canadian corporation that the Russians bought, netting a $145 million donation from Russia to the Clinton Foundation and a $500,000 speaking gig for Bill from the Russian Investment Bank that set up the corporate buyout?. That scandal?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "That time I lied when I said I was under sniper fire when I got off the plane in Bosnia?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "That time when after I became the First Lady, I improperly requested a bunch of FBI files so I could look for blackmail material on government insiders?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "That time when Bill nominated Zoe Baird as Attorney General, even though we knew she hired illegal immigrants and didn't pay payroll taxes on them?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "When I got Nigeria exempted from foreign aid transparency guidelines despite evidence of corruption because they gave Bill a $700,000 in speaking fees?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "Giving Saudi Arabia billions of dollars worth of fighter jets knowing full well they fund ISIS?"
Trump: "No, the other one".
Hillary: "Taking 10 to 25 million dollars worth of donations for my campaign from Saudi Arabia, whom supports gender segregation, homosexual hate, and allows forced marriage of 12 year old girls?".
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "That time in 2009 when Honduran military forces allied with rightist lawmakers ousted democratically elected President Manuel Zelaya, and I as then-Secretary of State sided with the armed forces and fought global pressure to reinstate him?"
Trump: "No, the other one."
Hillary: "I give up! ... Oh wait, I think I've got it! When I stole the White House furniture, silverware, when Bill left Office?"
Trump: "THAT'S IT! I almost forgot about that one".
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posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 05:19 AM
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Don the con doesn't want to be president, it's too hard. He's turned the democratic process into just another of his depraved scams. No worries, you'll have Trump TV to keep you occupied with paranoid delusions slapping your palette 24/7.



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 05:35 AM
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I read through this debate thread, being careful to ignore two posters that have become a joke, and having now watched the debate the summary seems pretty fair.

I thought Trump nailed the first 30 minutes of the debate and then it slipped more into a back and forth insult show. Neither candidate from that point did themselves any favours.

Trump would have won the debate without the comment that he would keep the suspense as to whether he would accept the election result. Because he made that comment, I would call this a draw. Trump, very good and very bad, in the same debate nullified himself. Hillary had almost nothing to offer the whole way through, which seems par for the course. She just wafted through the debate with a few lies and deflections.

I don't think either, net, will have picked up voters or lost voters.
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posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 05:56 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Why are Republicans held to a different standard than democrats? For 8 years of bush even the media cast doubt on his legitimacy all through his presidency.



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 05:58 AM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Grambler

I voted Hillary and I agree with you on the rigging aspect.

What makes Trump horrible is not so much that he says its rigged-- it's that he's willing to tear the country apart over it.


And yet it was completely mainstream to suggest the bush somehow stole the election for eight years of his presidency. I swear the media just makes up these standards and the people who believe and listen to them just accept it. Did you just start feeling this way about tearing the country apart? Did you feel this way during the bush years?



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 05:58 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
a reply to: UKTruth

Why are Republicans held to a different standard than democrats? For 8 years of bush even the media cast doubt on his legitimacy all through his presidency.


Because the media is biased. We all know that.
You have to ignore them.
That said, my view that Trump's comments about the 'suspense' on whether he would accept the result is not based on anything the media say (they are overplaying it), it's more to do with how the people will react to it.
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posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 06:08 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Trump nailed two very critical points.
2nd Amendment
Roe vs Wade

How anyone could support someone that will rip a baby out of the womb in the 9th month is baffling to me.
It tells me that -
A. These Hillary supporter's aren't and have never been parent's.
B. Paid to post.

Everyone can think what they wish but that first 30 mins sealed the deal. Hillary's inner evil came out when she wants to protect toddlers from guns in Washington DC but then wants to rip babies out of the womb in the 9th month denying the right to life cause as she said " the baby has no constitutional rights".

So you Hillary freaks support that, such a shame.



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 06:14 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
a reply to: UKTruth

Why are Republicans held to a different standard than democrats? For 8 years of bush even the media cast doubt on his legitimacy all through his presidency.


Apparently you live in a different media universe. There was never an accusation that Bush "stole" the election, or that it was "rigged," or that his presidency was illegitimate. There was some controversy over the Supreme Court settling the matter, but Al Gore proved himself to be a statesman by promptly conceding defeat, and, outside of some debates around constitutional law by the talking heads, that was that.

What Trump is doing is furthering the Russian agenda of undercutting the people's faith in liberal democracy, as he has been doing in Europe by supporting extremist groups.



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: TheBulk

The Florida recount and the necessity of the Supreme Court to make the call on the GW Bush presidency did damage our nation's unity, but nothing was more damaging than the de-legitimization of Barack Obama's presidency. That was a Republican thing.



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: Floridagoat

Could you please post a video of Hillary saying that she would allow a woman simply to rip a baby out of the womb? I seem to recall her saying that abortion was a complicated, deeply personal issue. Why do some people think the government has no right to tell people what they can do with weapons designed to kill, but have every right to tell women what they can do with their bodies?



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 06:43 AM
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a reply to: Floridagoat

Good Lord, we aren't talking about a woman just changing her mind about having a baby in her 9th month. We are talking about extremely rare circumstances where the mother's life is in immediate danger, or the baby has something horribly wrong with it.

So, you don't want to protect toddlers from guns?



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: Floridagoat

Women and doctors don't rip babies out of the womb. Don't you think that would kill both for sure? It is a serious life threatening issue for the mother when that happens that late. The government has no business making decisions like that for a woman. Trump has lost the women's vote.



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 07:41 AM
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How anyone could support someone that will rip a baby out of the womb in the 9th month is baffling to me.


Why do you think any woman would want to that, and more importantly, why do you think any doctor would agree do such a thing?



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Floridagoat

Women and doctors don't rip babies out of the womb. Don't you think that would kill both for sure? It is a serious life threatening issue for the mother when that happens that late. The government has no business making decisions like that for a woman. Trump has lost the women's vote.



He knows that no self respecting woman is going to vote for him, so he is doubling down in the hopes of getting the Fundamentalist vote.



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 07:58 AM
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I really can't wait for this election to be over with.

Never in the history of the US has a husband and wife been the first married presidents impeached. This will be historic, if the Russian don't attack us before they can impeach her.... either way... it will still be historic.


There is no amount of popcorn that will suffice for this great event.
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posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 08:04 AM
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Speaking of Why Mr. Trump , a Businessman , uses Chinese Steel in some of his Buildings .....



" U.S. steel producers, meanwhile, have accused China of unfairly dumping low-cost steel in the U.S. The U.S. International Trade Commission is expected to rule on those complaints over the next several months. If U.S. regulators impose punitive duties on Chinese steel, that could provide some financial relief for the domestic steel industry. "




In a Bottom Line Business , you go with what is the Most Cost Effective Materials available . American Steel Companies Cannot presently Compete with Cheap Chinese Steel .




www.marketplace.org...
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posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Annee




Hillary actually knows what she's talking about.


No she doesn't.

She's literally talking out of her snip.


You'd say that no matter what she said.


And he would be right



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: interupt42

I'm wondering why they keep referring to Hillary as "Secretary Clinton" when she isn't SOS anymore???



posted on Oct, 20 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: interupt42

I'm wondering why they keep referring to Hillary as "Secretary Clinton" when she isn't SOS anymore???


It's part of that media bias thing, to make her look more legitimate.



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