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posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 02:30 AM
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a reply to: kruphix




It's a long held tradition that Presidential candidates release their tax returns. Why do you think Trump is breaking that tradition?


Tradition? Your whole system is a joke!

The 'popular' vote does not matter! The will of 'We The People' does not matter.

This is not a system that can be held high, more like shhhh, let the people think they pick the President.

You need a big reset. You have the assets in place to do this. See the Second Amendment for instructions.

This whole circle jerk would be funny if the US Govt was not massacring innocent people all over the damn world.

It is all going to come crumbling down upon your heads. You used to be the saviors of the free world. When did the country sign the deal with the devil.

This is just beyond belief!

P




posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 02:34 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358




Tradition? Your whole system is a joke!

The 'popular' vote does not matter!


What's your point exactly. The popular vote has never mattered, it's not a secret, it's in our Constitution.

It has worked fine for 200+ years, not sure why you think that means it is going to collapse now.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 04:01 AM
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originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: DocScurlock1774
a reply to: kruphix

why do taxes matter

income tax is illegal anyway


Really?

You can learn a lot about a candidate from their tax returns.

For example.

- How much they pay in taxes
- Real estate holdings and taxes
- What they are invested in
- How much they gave to charity and which charity they gave to
- Who they are in business with
- Who they are in debt to
- Offshore accounts

For the most part, these tax returns for candidates are usually pretty boring. However, the ONE candidate we should all be curious about seeing, an international businessman, and he seems to be refusing to release them.

To me, that says he is hiding something.
Really??? I'll bet you voted for Obama...The person who never did provide a legitimate birth certificate...Who his his college records, who hid his passport, who hid every part of his history that he didn't want us to know...And you're worried about Trump hiding something??? Tsk Tsk Tsk...



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 04:36 AM
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originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: pheonix358




Tradition? Your whole system is a joke!

The 'popular' vote does not matter!


What's your point exactly. The popular vote has never mattered, it's not a secret, it's in our Constitution.

It has worked fine for 200+ years, not sure why you think that means it is going to collapse now.


Who cares about tax returns. I don't. We've got a lying, murdering, sexual assault victim destroyer, as the democrat candidate. All that is required of the republican candidate is a pulse and a shorter rap sheet.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: Indigo5

If true, (his original choice of campaign advisor was interesting) that would suck, because it would mean that Putin already has him in checkmate.

I'd heard that he owes 500 mil to the Chinese.




He also owes several hundred million to Deutsche bank, which is now under heavy investigation by the US gov. for fraudulent activity. The bank is floundering. Deutsche Bank is the only European banker he still has debt with..they were the last one to give him money before the financial collapse. American banks swore off Trump over a decade ago after everyone got screwed repeatedly. That leaves Russian Oligarchs that he has been courting...and unlike more legitimate investors...they (A) Play hardball/corrupt and (B) Demand favors for Putin.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: Indigo5

If true, (his original choice of campaign advisor was interesting) that would suck, because it would mean that Putin already has him in checkmate.

I'd heard that he owes 500 mil to the Chinese.




He also owes several hundred million to Deutsche bank, which is now under heavy investigation by the US gov. for fraudulent activity. The bank is floundering. Deutsche Bank is the only European banker he still has debt with..they were the last one to give him money before the financial collapse. American banks swore off Trump over a decade ago after everyone got screwed repeatedly. That leaves Russian Oligarchs that he has been courting...and unlike more legitimate investors...they (A) Play hardball/corrupt and (B) Demand favors for Putin.



The only proof of deep ties to Russia have been found regarding Clinton.
Podesta linked directly to Joule Unlimited and Clinton writing she was in his 'inner cirle'.
So, for right now, the 'in bed with Russia' claim can only legitimately be laid at the door of Clinton.
edit on 19/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: Iscool

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: DocScurlock1774
a reply to: kruphix

why do taxes matter

income tax is illegal anyway


Really?

You can learn a lot about a candidate from their tax returns.

For example.

- How much they pay in taxes
- Real estate holdings and taxes
- What they are invested in
- How much they gave to charity and which charity they gave to
- Who they are in business with
- Who they are in debt to
- Offshore accounts

For the most part, these tax returns for candidates are usually pretty boring. However, the ONE candidate we should all be curious about seeing, an international businessman, and he seems to be refusing to release them.

To me, that says he is hiding something.
Really??? I'll bet you voted for Obama...The person who never did provide a legitimate birth certificate...Who his his college records, who hid his passport, who hid every part of his history that he didn't want us to know...And you're worried about Trump hiding something??? Tsk Tsk Tsk...


Sure did vote for Obama...twice.

Obama released his tax returns, as is tradition.

Why hasn't Trump?



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: Iscool

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: DocScurlock1774
a reply to: kruphix

why do taxes matter

income tax is illegal anyway


Really?

You can learn a lot about a candidate from their tax returns.

For example.

- How much they pay in taxes
- Real estate holdings and taxes
- What they are invested in
- How much they gave to charity and which charity they gave to
- Who they are in business with
- Who they are in debt to
- Offshore accounts

For the most part, these tax returns for candidates are usually pretty boring. However, the ONE candidate we should all be curious about seeing, an international businessman, and he seems to be refusing to release them.

To me, that says he is hiding something.
Really??? I'll bet you voted for Obama...The person who never did provide a legitimate birth certificate...Who his his college records, who hid his passport, who hid every part of his history that he didn't want us to know...And you're worried about Trump hiding something??? Tsk Tsk Tsk...


Sure did vote for Obama...twice.

Obama released his tax returns, as is tradition.

Why hasn't Trump?


If Trump was elected and continued to do the exact opposite if everything Obama has done then everything will turn out great.
Obama is the worst President in history - worst and weakest leader in any country in fact.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: Iscool

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: DocScurlock1774
a reply to: kruphix

why do taxes matter

income tax is illegal anyway


Really?

You can learn a lot about a candidate from their tax returns.

For example.

- How much they pay in taxes
- Real estate holdings and taxes
- What they are invested in
- How much they gave to charity and which charity they gave to
- Who they are in business with
- Who they are in debt to
- Offshore accounts

For the most part, these tax returns for candidates are usually pretty boring. However, the ONE candidate we should all be curious about seeing, an international businessman, and he seems to be refusing to release them.

To me, that says he is hiding something.
Really??? I'll bet you voted for Obama...The person who never did provide a legitimate birth certificate...Who his his college records, who hid his passport, who hid every part of his history that he didn't want us to know...And you're worried about Trump hiding something??? Tsk Tsk Tsk...


Sure did vote for Obama...twice.

Obama released his tax returns, as is tradition.

Why hasn't Trump?


If Trump was elected and continued to do the exact opposite if everything Obama has done then everything will turn out great.
Obama is the worst President in history - worst and weakest leader in any country in fact.


Facts say otherwise.

- Deficit spending is down under him. ($1.4 trillion in 2009 to $439 billion in 2015)
- Unemployment is down under him (10.1% in October of 2009 to 4.9% currently)
- Currently on a 78 month streak of economic growth, which is a record
- Stock Market is continually setting record highs under Obama
- Government spending has increase at the lowest rate since Eisenhower
- Income taxes are lower for 95% of Americans
- Dependence on foreign oil is down
- Millions of Americans now have health insurance due to ACA
- Healthcare costs are increasing at the lowest rate since the 1960's


Yeah...what a horrible President.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: Iscool

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: DocScurlock1774
a reply to: kruphix

why do taxes matter

income tax is illegal anyway


Really?

You can learn a lot about a candidate from their tax returns.

For example.

- How much they pay in taxes
- Real estate holdings and taxes
- What they are invested in
- How much they gave to charity and which charity they gave to
- Who they are in business with
- Who they are in debt to
- Offshore accounts

For the most part, these tax returns for candidates are usually pretty boring. However, the ONE candidate we should all be curious about seeing, an international businessman, and he seems to be refusing to release them.

To me, that says he is hiding something.
Really??? I'll bet you voted for Obama...The person who never did provide a legitimate birth certificate...Who his his college records, who hid his passport, who hid every part of his history that he didn't want us to know...And you're worried about Trump hiding something??? Tsk Tsk Tsk...


Sure did vote for Obama...twice.

Obama released his tax returns, as is tradition.

Why hasn't Trump?


If Trump was elected and continued to do the exact opposite if everything Obama has done then everything will turn out great.
Obama is the worst President in history - worst and weakest leader in any country in fact.


Facts say otherwise.

- Deficit spending is down under him. ($1.4 trillion in 2009 to $439 billion in 2015)
- Unemployment is down under him (10.1% in October of 2009 to 4.9% currently)
- Currently on a 78 month streak of economic growth, which is a record
- Stock Market is continually setting record highs under Obama
- Government spending has increase at the lowest rate since Eisenhower
- Income taxes are lower for 95% of Americans
- Dependence on foreign oil is down
- Millions of Americans now have health insurance due to ACA
- Healthcare costs are increasing at the lowest rate since the 1960's


Yeah...what a horrible President.


Absolutely hilarious. Obama is weak as p*ss and has delivered nothing other than zero growth and a crappy healthcare system. In every regard he is a disaster and his 'Hope and Change' message will be the stuff of comedy for years to come. What a terrible mistake he was. I understand your need to defend his incompetence on the world stage, but really.. parroting his propaganda is just a little much. I can't stop laughing.
edit on 19/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Numbers don't lie.

If you think they are wrong, go ahead and dispute them.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: UKTruth

Numbers don't lie.

If you think they are wrong, go ahead and dispute them.


I can tell you've not studied economic numbers very much.
To help you, they do lie, often.

Start with Gallup - this article titled 'The Big Lie' and work from there. That is if you are even interested in understanding instead of parroting govt propaganda.
www.gallup.com...

Here is the start of the article - it is written by the Chairman and CEO of Gallup

Here's something that many Americans -- including some of the smartest and most educated among us -- don't know: The official unemployment rate, as reported by the U.S. Department of Labor, is extremely misleading.

Right now, we're hearing much celebrating from the media, the White House and Wall Street about how unemployment is "down" to 5.6%. The cheerleading for this number is deafening. The media loves a comeback story, the White House wants to score political points and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market.

None of them will tell you this: If you, a family member or anyone is unemployed and has subsequently given up on finding a job -- if you are so hopelessly out of work that you've stopped looking over the past four weeks -- the Department of Labor doesn't count you as unemployed. That's right. While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.

There's another reason why the official rate is misleading. Say you're an out-of-work engineer or healthcare worker or construction worker or retail manager: If you perform a minimum of one hour of work in a week and are paid at least $20 -- maybe someone pays you to mow their lawn -- you're not officially counted as unemployed in the much-reported 5.6%. Few Americans know this.

Yet another figure of importance that doesn't get much press: those working part time but wanting full-time work. If you have a degree in chemistry or math and are working 10 hours part time because it is all you can find -- in other words, you are severely underemployed -- the government doesn't count you in the 5.6%. Few Americans know this.

There's no other way to say this. The official unemployment rate, which cruelly overlooks the suffering of the long-term and often permanently unemployed as well as the depressingly underemployed, amounts to a Big Lie.

And it's a lie that has consequences, because the great American dream is to have a good job, and in recent years, America has failed to deliver that dream more than it has at any time in recent memory. A good job is an individual's primary identity, their very self-worth, their dignity -- it establishes the relationship they have with their friends, community and country. When we fail to deliver a good job that fits a citizen's talents, training and experience, we are failing the great American dream.

Gallup defines a good job as 30+ hours per week for an organization that provides a regular paycheck. Right now, the U.S. is delivering at a staggeringly low rate of 44%, which is the number of full-time jobs as a percent of the adult population, 18 years and older. We need that to be 50% and a bare minimum of 10 million new, good jobs to replenish America's middle class.

I hear all the time that "unemployment is greatly reduced, but the people aren't feeling it." When the media, talking heads, the White House and Wall Street start reporting the truth -- the percent of Americans in good jobs; jobs that are full time and real -- then we will quit wondering why Americans aren't "feeling" something that doesn't remotely reflect the reality in their lives. And we will also quit wondering what hollowed out the middle class.


There's no shame in falling for the con Obama is spinning, many have. You just need to do more research and please stop parroting the MSM.
edit on 19/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 12:59 PM
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Oh I know all about the unemployment numbers and rates. The argument of U3 vs U6, and everything that goes along with it.

But the fact remains, the US has ALWAYS used the U3 rate to report the unemployment number. So that is what you have to compare when looking at where unemployment as gone under Obama.

You can't use the U3 rate pre-Obama and compare it to today's U6 number...that is just not valid.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: Iscool

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: DocScurlock1774
a reply to: kruphix

why do taxes matter

income tax is illegal anyway


Really?

You can learn a lot about a candidate from their tax returns.

For example.

- How much they pay in taxes
- Real estate holdings and taxes
- What they are invested in
- How much they gave to charity and which charity they gave to
- Who they are in business with
- Who they are in debt to
- Offshore accounts

For the most part, these tax returns for candidates are usually pretty boring. However, the ONE candidate we should all be curious about seeing, an international businessman, and he seems to be refusing to release them.

To me, that says he is hiding something.
Really??? I'll bet you voted for Obama...The person who never did provide a legitimate birth certificate...Who his his college records, who hid his passport, who hid every part of his history that he didn't want us to know...And you're worried about Trump hiding something??? Tsk Tsk Tsk...


Sure did vote for Obama...twice.

Obama released his tax returns, as is tradition.

Why hasn't Trump?


If Trump was elected and continued to do the exact opposite if everything Obama has done then everything will turn out great.
Obama is the worst President in history - worst and weakest leader in any country in fact.


gees, now you are an presidential historical scholar?.......I wonder how long you stand in front of the mirror waxing poetically regarding your intellectual prowess of American history?...if only there was a tad of credibility for your statement, somebody might care what you said.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: UKTruth

Oh I know all about the unemployment numbers and rates. The argument of U3 vs U6, and everything that goes along with it.

But the fact remains, the US has ALWAYS used the U3 rate to report the unemployment number. So that is what you have to compare when looking at where unemployment as gone under Obama.

You can't use the U3 rate pre-Obama and compare it to today's U6 number...that is just not valid.


Steer clear of any of those metrics, other than inputs. Gallup have done a good job of understanding labour participation rates. They are at 45.8% compared to exactly the same rate in 2012. It got worse from 2012 to 2015 and spiked a bit in 2016 before falling away again.
The economy is stagnant.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: Iscool

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: DocScurlock1774
a reply to: kruphix

why do taxes matter

income tax is illegal anyway


Really?

You can learn a lot about a candidate from their tax returns.

For example.

- How much they pay in taxes
- Real estate holdings and taxes
- What they are invested in
- How much they gave to charity and which charity they gave to
- Who they are in business with
- Who they are in debt to
- Offshore accounts

For the most part, these tax returns for candidates are usually pretty boring. However, the ONE candidate we should all be curious about seeing, an international businessman, and he seems to be refusing to release them.

To me, that says he is hiding something.
Really??? I'll bet you voted for Obama...The person who never did provide a legitimate birth certificate...Who his his college records, who hid his passport, who hid every part of his history that he didn't want us to know...And you're worried about Trump hiding something??? Tsk Tsk Tsk...


Sure did vote for Obama...twice.

Obama released his tax returns, as is tradition.

Why hasn't Trump?


If Trump was elected and continued to do the exact opposite if everything Obama has done then everything will turn out great.
Obama is the worst President in history - worst and weakest leader in any country in fact.


gees, now you are an presidential historical scholar?.......I wonder how long you stand in front of the mirror waxing poetically regarding your intellectual prowess of American history?...if only there was a tad of credibility for your statement, somebody might care what you said.


Have I offended your leader - the totally inept and laughable nutcase?
Sorry pal, he's a dud. To be fair he is an excellent comedian, which is what he should have been doing all along. He's got good timing for a joke, but terrible timing on things that matter.
By the way, they do teach world history over here and it's amazing what you can find out these days... I know America teach world history to their kids too, but maybe you skipped those classes.
edit on 19/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

LOL.

If we were at 45% unemployment, we would still be in a recession.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: UKTruth

LOL.

If we were at 45% unemployment, we would still be in a recession.


Try and read - jeez.
Gallup use a labour participation rate.
/facepalm



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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Where are Trump's tax returns?

Same place yours is, mine is,everyone is.

Talk about a non issue.



posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
Where are Trump's tax returns?

Same place yours is, mine is,everyone is.

Talk about a non issue.


yep.



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