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Vatican knowledge of ET revealed in Podesta emails

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posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 07:21 AM
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Aliens want to help mankind but fear our violent tendencies, according to an email exchange revealed by Wikileaks. Mails sent by astronaut Edgar Mitchell to John Podesta cite an impending space war and the Vatican’s knowledge of alien life. www.rt.com...


I start this thread with the intention to discuss once again the Vatican - ET connection, not so much the Wikileaks release itself, and certainly not any political implication of them, discussed elsewhere.

John Podesta was serving as counselor to President Barack Obama during the exchange.

In addition to that release, we have a number of other testimonies, including cmd sgt Bob Dean, the secret meetings of pope John 23rd, and more recently, the statements of the Jesuit astronomers Consolmagno and Funes


edit on 17-10-2016 by 2012newstart because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart


Yep! Even the Catholic Church can take the news of ETs out there if not here.


Try telling that news to some of the terrorists groups and then ask if they want to set around a campfire and sing "Kumbaya."



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 09:02 AM
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apparently none of us knows everything, and it would be stupid to put aside any bit of vital info. If Rome can help, why not to help all of us? And why we don't want to listen something that is important? Pope Francis already said he would baptize Martians.
The film E.T. phrase "ET phone home" may turn to be "ET phone Rome"



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 09:27 AM
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Was there an actual "exchange" of emails or was this just Mitchell emailing Podesta?



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 09:53 AM
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Seems a bit odd that the Vatican has actually dug itself to hell because i actually assumed that they were real men who would one day, have the courage to admit all truths.

However with Luke 8:17
"For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and nothing concealed that will not be known and illuminated."

...it seems that the truth has only been made available via Wikileaks.

No one can trust the entire Vatican now.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

Here is the text of the email from Former Astronaut/Psychonaut Edgar Mitchell:


From:terribillionairs@aol.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2015-08-18 10:30 Subject: email for John Podesta c/o Eryn re Space Treaty (attached)

Dear John, Because the War in Space race is heating up, I felt you should be aware of several factors as you and I schedule our Skype talk. Remember, our nonviolent ETI from the contiguous universe are helping us bring zero point energy to Earth. They will not tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space.

The following information in italics was shared with me by my colleague Carol Rosin, who worked closely for several years with Wernher von Braun before his death. Carol and I have worked on the Treaty on the Prevention of the Placement of Weapons in Outer Space, attached for your convenience.

NEW GREAT NEWS: Federal Minister for Planning, Development and Reforms Ahsan Iqbal proposed cooperation in space technology between Pakistan and China as part of the historic declaration, saying it will take the Pak-China relations to new heights. tribune.com.pk... A consortium of 35 Chinese companies was also formed that will invest in Pakistan: Pakistan and China on Wednesday signed 20 memoranda of understanding (MoU) worth $2 billion...emphasis on sustainability ________________________________________________________________

The Cosmic Consequences of Space Weapons: Why they Must be Banned to Preserve our Future FULL ARTICLE: consciousreporter.com...
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WAR IN SPACE... War in space isn't considered fantasy anymore www.aol.com...
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PREPARING FOR WAR IN SPACE (articles below): www.outerplaces.com... - Satellite Missiles and International Tensions See US, China and Russia Preparing for War in Space
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www.scientificamerican.com...?ftcamp=crm/email//nbe/FirstFTEurope/product War in Space May Be Closer Than Ever China, Russia and the U.S. are developing and testing controversial new capabilities to wage war in space despite their denial of such work By Lee Billings | August 10, 2015
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www.express.co.uk... World War Three in SPACE? Fears over rise in anti-satellite weapons created by Russia A HUGE rise in anti-satellite weapons being developed by world powers has sparked fears the West could soon be embroiled in a fully-fledged war with Russia and China in outer space. ____________________________________________________________
War in space isn't considered fantasy anymore www.aol.com... We're arguably closer than ever to war in space. Most satellites orbiting Earth belong to the U.S., China and Russia. And recent tests of anti-satellite weapons don't exactly ease the scare factor. It sounds like science fiction, but the potential for real-life star wars is real enough. It's just not new. Fears of battles in space go back to the Cold War and several initiatives, like President Reagan's "Star Wars" missile-defense system. Deputy Defense Secretary Robert Work spoke to Congress in June about the threat. He said during a speech the technology the U.S. developed during the Cold War allows it "to project more power, more precisely, more swiftly, at less cost." Take a moment to think about everything satellites do. GPS, surveillance and communications all depend on them. And the Scientific American notes you can disable satellites without missiles. Simply spray-painting lenses or breaking antennas is enough. President Obama requested $5 billion for space defense in the 2016 fiscal budget. And a former Air Force officer told the Scientific American most of the United States' capabilities in space have been declassified to send a clear message: There are no rules for war in space. Best regards, Edgar Edgar D. Mitchell, ScD Apollo 14 astronaut 6th man to walk on the Moon Zero Point Energy Consultant


Pretty sure this email is the result of his experiments with '___' back in the day.

ETA: I don't see anything about the Vatican here. Leave it to RT to make a true story into a lie.

edit on 17-10-2016 by DJW001 because: Edit to render readable.

edit on 17-10-2016 by DJW001 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart


In addition to that release, we have a number of other testimonies, including cmd sgt Bob Dean, the secret meetings of pope John 23rd, and more recently, the statements of the Jesuit astronomers Consolmagno and Funes


I know Brother Guy Consolmagno He has a great sense of humor. When a reporter asked him if he would baptize an ET, he replied "only if she wanted." The Vatican has no direct knowledge of extraterrestrial life, but it has accepted the possibility in its dogma since the late Middle Ages.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

Come on, man. Wikileaks isn't going to release info via YouTube or RT. This is one of the many hoaxes that RT has peddled.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: _BoneZ_

RT is quite credible. Putin guarantees it



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

thanks for the entire text.
Podesta said when he left the admin, his biggest failure was he couldn't achieve UFO disclosure



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

Then there's this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Biased reporting. Hoax reporting. One should never use RT or YouTube as a source for anything that requires credibility.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 11:02 AM
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From the email:

"They will not tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space. "

Guess they don't pay attention very much, cause forms of military violence are all over Earth.

Btw this has all been discussed before, many think it's some kind of spam email claiming to be Mitchell, because the email address isn't what you'd expect him to be using.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Rapha




No one can trust the entire Vatican now.


Now? The Vatican has not changed. Your view of it has. Welcome to truth!



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: _BoneZ_


One should never use RT or YouTube as a source for anything that requires credibility.



As far as YouTube goes, there are researchers, gov. officials etc. actual words being broadcast (in the flesh a lot of times) so should we just discard that too? We shouldn't shoot the messenger.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
ETA: I don't see anything about the Vatican here. Leave it to RT to make a true story into a lie.


It's not RT's fault if you just can't copy/paste the right email ...



Attending the meeting with Dr. Mitchell will be the following:
Mr. Dan Hill, Catholic philanthropist
Dr. Michael Mansfield, Catholic retired Air Force Colonel
Mrs. Terri Mansfield, Catholic consultant replacing Dr. Rebecca Wright for Dr. Mitchell in this matter.

Because of his own background as a Catholic, we feel it is imperative that John be aware of the Vatican’s interest in ETI, Extraterrestrial Intelligence, and in sustainability for our planet. The Vatican has hosted global seminars on the repercussions of humans interacting with ETI, and how this will affect religion and consciousness.

The Vatican’s Observatory is located here in Arizona, and its top astronomers including Father Jose Funes and Brother Guy Consolmagno, who have met with Pope Francis, have publicly stated that God’s creation could very well include OTHER intelligent life, and that would mean they are our “brothers”. We work with specific ETI from a contiguous universe. They are nonviolent and in complete obedience to God.

Source : /podesta-emails/emailid/12127



posted on Oct, 18 2016 @ 12:25 AM
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I agree RT does not give all of it. But it breaks the news into the MSM among its hundred thousands subscribers. And whoever wants more he will find and read what you just posted


The Vatican’s Observatory is located here in Arizona, and its top astronomers including Father Jose Funes and Brother Guy Consolmagno, who have met with Pope Francis, have publicly stated that God’s creation could very well include OTHER intelligent life, and that would mean they are our “brothers”. We work with specific ETI from a contiguous universe. They are nonviolent and in complete obedience to God.


We are going towards disclosure, it might be partial IDK. It would be good to happen before the presidential elections.



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