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WTF Do These Wikileaks Numbers Mean?---BREAKING

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posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: GreenGunther



Looks like a hash value used to determine file integrity


SHA256SUM - exact character match




posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: SudoNim
Phew! As long as it's your understanding then ipso facto they must be false. I guess if he didn't break the law he wouldn't be on the run, oh wait, its for his own protection, convenient.


No, I never claimed that the charges were true, or false.

The point was that your sensationalist use of the phrase "rape charges" is misleading at best, and dishonest at worst.

He was never charged with "rape". He was charged with "lesser-degree rape" which has nothing to to do with non-consensual acts, and is very different than what we in the west define as "rape" (the term you wrongly attributed in your original post).

edit on 10/17/16 by redmage because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: ObjectZero
a reply to: MamaJ

Al ready seeing a few reports that he's alive. But nothing with any good backing.

Anonymous Julian Assange dead or alive ? WE HAVE THE ANSWER !

Maybe we'll see a few more soon with better details and backing. Like talking to him directly.


He's alive and well is what they say.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 12:45 PM
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For anyone just joining the thread. Wikileaks tweeted some apparent keys to twitter, no-one's been able to work out anything but don't worry this thread is full of experts re-posting the same "knowledge" that they read from 4chan and reddit on here.

Assange may or not be dead, which is the same question you face everyday when not in the immediate presence of someone.

Wikileaks also said someone has cut Assange off from the internet, which is a both a ridiculous and pointless thing to claim.

Despite this Verizon did jump on twitter to offer its support..



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: SudoNim
Phew! As long as it's your understanding then ipso facto they must be false. I guess if he didn't break the law he wouldn't be on the run, oh wait, its for his own protection, convenient.


No, I never claimed that the charges were true, or false.

The point was that your sensationalist use of the phrase "rape charges" is misleading at best, and dishonest at worst.

He was never charged with "rape". He was charged with "lesser-degree rape" which has nothing to to do with non-consensual acts, and is very different than what we in the west define as "rape" (the term you wrongly attributed in your original post).


Where did I use the phrase "rape charge".

If you are going to claim that my points are sensationalised then at least get your facts straight.

What's misleading and dishonest is you misquoting me to make your own point.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: SwagLord
regarding "they" "cutting off his internet"

as an IT specialist I find this pretty strange


he is housed at the embassy of equador correct? so was it the equador government who cut it off? it almost had to be.

also, doesnt mr assange have a couple of dummy phones with 3g/4g access ? how could they shut that off.

and if equador embassy still has internet, and they are not responsible for cutting out his internet, then why dont he just surf on their internet.

like i said, i find it really strange.
its not like anyone know who is using the internet if you are using anonymous computers with for example tails OS on it and never use camera, voice, or personal information on it.


There are a few reports of Kerry demanding the Ecuadorian government terminate his connexions with the outside world and seize his mobile phones. The veracity of the claims is anyone's guess, but the only other option to explain Assange's disconnexion with the world would be that the UK cut off the internet, telephone, and wifi connectivity of the Ecuadorian Embassy.
edit on 17/10/2016 by Kapriti because: spelling



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: SudoNim
Phew! As long as it's your understanding then ipso facto they must be false. I guess if he didn't break the law he wouldn't be on the run, oh wait, its for his own protection, convenient.


No, I never claimed that the charges were true, or false.

The point was that your sensationalist use of the phrase "rape charges" is misleading at best, and dishonest at worst.

He was never charged with "rape". He was charged with "lesser-degree rape" which has nothing to to do with non-consensual acts, and is very different than what we in the west define as "rape" (the term you wrongly attributed in your original post).


I have apparently misunderstood the charges against JA, this entire time believing he was charged with non-consensual sexual contact.

Please explain what is lesser-degree-rape or post a link which details what you are saying.

Edit: I am American so I think of 'rape' in the way that most Americans do.
edit on 10/17/16 by Ameilia because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: SudoNim
Where did I use the phrase "rape charge".


My mistake, here's your exact quote.


originally posted by: SudoNim
Yup he has them by the balls as he cowers inside the Ecuadorean embassy hiding from rape allegations.


So you said "allegations" instead of "charges"; however, even with my paraphrasing the point still stands.

There was no "rape allegation". There was a charge of "lesser-degree rape" which has nothing to to do with non-consensual acts, and is very different than what we in the west define as "rape".

Your sensationalist shortening of "lesser-degree rape" to simply being "rape" is misleading at best, and dishonest at worst.
edit on 10/17/16 by redmage because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Kapriti

the first one is just practically impossible these days and the second would be an act of war

both are really unplausible



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: SudoNim
Where did I use the phrase "rape charge".


My mistake, here's your exact quote.


originally posted by: SudoNim
Yup he has them by the balls as he cowers inside the Ecuadorean embassy hiding from rape allegations.


So you said "allegations" instead of "charges"; however, even with my paraphrasing the point still stands.

There was no "rape allegation". There was a charge of "lesser-degree rape" which has nothing to to do with non-consensual acts, and is very different than what we in the west define as "rape".

Your sensationalist shortening of "lesser-degree rape" to simply being "rape" is misleading at best, and dishonest at worst.


Except its not sensationalist as he is wanted over rape allegations. It's not sensationalist to call lesser-degree rape... rape. It is a form of rape.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: DocScurlock1774
can anyone do an explanation of whats going on here for the people that dont want to read 20 pages?

So far i got that some file encryption codes were released, but i dont know for what and how do they effect the world and what kind of files?


basically its Assange again keeping attention on him and desperately trying to stay a relevant vigilante information hijacker, by strategically and timely releasing tabloid tidbits for suspenseful build up to mediocrity.

-more not so secret information, or non-provocative information people with common sense already figured out..
nolt much will come of this.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:53 PM
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Do you know EXACTLY what the accusation is? It appears you think he raped them, which in fact he did not. Both women have admitted the initial act of sex, however after the fact they realized they had been lied to about his sexual history and intentions. Under the law of the land this counts as coercion and lesser degree rape as they may not have agreed to consensual sex otherwise.

The initial investigation found:


The arrest warrant is withdrawn. "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," says one of Stockholm's chief prosecutors, Eva Finne.


It was not until some months later due to political pressure that the charge was re-opened for investigation.
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posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:53 PM
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basically its Assange again keeping attention on him and desperately trying to stay a relevant vigilante information hijacker, by strategically and timely releasing tabloid tidbits for suspenseful build up to mediocrity.

-more not so secret information, or non-provocative information people with common sense already figured out..
nolt much will come of this.


Bingo. It's like Snowden's twitter post a while back back or Assange's 10 year anniversary announcement. Assange is trying the milk the attention he is getting from the US elections. In the end nothing will come out of this. People are desperate enough to fall for his tricks time and time again though.

I actually followed Assange and Snowden closely before but this year they've proven to me they're in it for the attention. Not good.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:57 PM
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Here: Source

Basically he had sex with two women within a few days of each other, women he met on the same night at the same event, and a condom broke while having sex with one of them and he did not stop, and the woman did not realize it broke until they were done. Apparently he did not disclose to the two women that he had slept with the other. That qualifies as "lesser degree rape" because the women feel like they were lied to which resulted in consensual sex and the one woman felt he should have known the condom broke.
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posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: SudoNim
It's not sensationalist to call lesser-degree rape... rape. It is a form of rape.


Only if you believe that non-consensual and consensual intercourse are one and the same.

Personally, I think there is a HUGE difference between the two.
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posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 01:59 PM
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I find this odd, especially their internet link tweet.

Yesterday, some time before those tweets I think, I saw an image of a 4chan post where someone was asking what was going on at "Hans Crescent" (turns out that's embassy that Assange was/is in). The post was talking about police confiscating peoples phones and deleting photos/videos. Many started to speculate that Assange was killed or something.
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posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: SudoNim
It's not sensationalist to call lesser-degree rape... rape. It is a form of rape.


Only if you believe that consensual and non-consensual intercourse are one and the same.

Personally, I think there is a HUGE difference between the two.


If only it was what YOU believed that was the law and not what the country decided.

How is it sensationalist, other than you not agreeing with it? Or was this just your BS way of trying to down-play the laws of another country.

God-forbid someone has a go at America for downgrading their definition of violent crime compared to the rest of the western world.
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posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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Do you realize that you're implying consensual intercourse is the same as non-consensual intercourse?

Get help.



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: SudoNim

Do you know EXACTLY what the accusation is? It appears you think he raped them, which in fact he did not. Both women have admitted the initial act of sex, however after the fact they realized they had been lied to about his sexual history and intentions. Under the law of the land this counts as coercion and lesser degree rape as they may not have agreed to consensual sex otherwise.

The intiial investigation found:


The arrest warrant is withdrawn. "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," says one of Stockholm's chief prosecutors, Eva Finne.


It was not until some months later due to political pressure that the charge was re-opened for investigation.


How does it appear that I think he raped them? Please show me. Or are you just making it up so that you can try and argue against it.

What I said about him being wanted regarding rape allegations is fact, please explain how you derived my opinion of his guilt from this?



posted on Oct, 17 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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I don't understand this logic. So far nothing that they've released has had any affect on her numbers. The only numbers affected have been Trumps blood pressure as he tries to wring something incriminating from the releases. While trying to fight off the women he has assaulted over the years as they come out of hiding. Octopus is an apt description.




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