It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.


Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.


Help ATS via PayPal:
learn more

Are Black Holes What We Interpret As Hell?

page: 2
<< 1   >>

log in


posted on Oct, 18 2016 @ 09:45 PM
a reply to: UFOdanger

And what about black hole evaporation and how that effects your theory?

posted on Oct, 19 2016 @ 12:39 AM
I've long pondered if Black Holes actually DO take you to other galaxies. However, I've long thought they are only able to be crossed in the soul. Bodies get crushed, but the soul would pass.

posted on Oct, 22 2016 @ 08:44 PM

originally posted by: namelesss
There is no 'opposite' of unconditional Love/Enlightenment. Truth/Reality has no 'opposite'.

Even the tiniest forms of matter, called quarks, that act like a little universe within the atom of a single particle at the tip of your finger, have anti quarks, opposites of themselves. The single tiniest photons in the light that we see shooting across the room right in front of or face, have anti photons or opposite photons.

Truth has an opposite, a lie. And love has an opposite, hate.

posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 01:32 AM

originally posted by: UFOdanger

originally posted by: namelesss
There is no 'opposite' of unconditional Love/Enlightenment. Truth/Reality has no 'opposite'.

Even the tiniest forms of matter, called quarks, that act like a little universe within the atom of a single particle at the tip of your finger, have anti quarks, opposites of themselves. The single tiniest photons in the light that we see shooting across the room right in front of or face, have anti photons or opposite photons.

Truth has an opposite, a lie. And love has an opposite, hate.

All these 'things' are composed of 'Mindstuff', 'information waves', ultimately, 'undifferentiated potential'!!
There is no 'opposite' of a 'Universe' that is 'merely' 'potential'!

All these perceived 'dualities', of which you speak, in totality, compose the greater One... Balanced... Perfect... Truth... Reality! God!
There is no 'opposite' of Reality.
The tiny bits that we perceive, through thought (duality) are perceived as an apparent duality (which we accept because we cannot perceive the larger Whole).

"Every kind of partial and transitory disequilibrium must perforce contribute towards the great equilibrium of the whole.." - Rene' Guenon

"The complete Universe (Reality/Truth/God/'Self!'/Tao/Brahman... or any feature herein...) can be completely defined/described as the synchronous sum-total of all Perspectives!" - Book of Fudd

tat tvam asi (

posted on Oct, 29 2016 @ 01:19 PM
Earth has been swallowed by a black hole.

You have to grasp the creation of polarity.

We have a omnipresent, omnipotent normally dynamic wave field (S-)

When these non observable sine waveforms spiral into structured knots, the core 'cracks like a whip' and the entire alternate waveform is created.

Instead of gathering the knowledge, people have chosen to discredit it. Black holes are fractal recursive root/anchor systems for nonpolar dynamic magnetic wave fields that have always, will always exist. The ∑aterial pole (N+) is an illusion formed by a ping node that does not exist.

The core, nucleus, Sun, = the temporary converter separating the quantum root dimension (current residence) from the omni field (Eden, former and rightful density of our spiritual galaxy.)

Selling black holes as Elohim creator class, while they are actually fallen cherubim, is essentially the end game of all conspiracy theories: Our reality is input & mirror, & 'they' intend to replace the input (S-) with a second mirror. This is taking place on a galactic, and subatomic level. Please study Stereo-chemistry a bit, & understand the perception half DOES NOT EXIST. Universal knowledge of inward spiraling waveforms. It is an illusionary mirror image, a cymatic sampling and modulation. The particle detects the wave. Focal perception alone can decide if an object is turning to the left or right. The entire world is cell-centered. New age trash says embrace the stillness of death. Sinister over Rectus.

Dont take my word for it. Your entire culture is a joke on you. Eventually you will catch too many inside jokes regarding the material mirror pole (red) vs the spiritual sine pole (blue), & probably be committed to a hospital, if you dont stroke out right there on the spot.

In other words, dont think about reality unless you want to sit down with destroyed minds who can teach it (the brain took residence atop your body as a cross-cap ECM & 2nd opinion (epinoia) to your infallible coronal instinct (anoia). Insanity IS the key youve all pretended to be searching for.

Vitreous alchemical space-battery powered square wave generator, temporary, refractive nuclear mirror pole: Hub, Core, Nucleus. A clipped fourier transform approximation of what funnels into the common core [circle to square converter] & out of that white hole in the sky (John of Patmos' 666, a fallen angel (gender confused black hole) posing as an angel of light): A collection of sampled HF low amplitude pulses collectively imitating a single high amplitude long band waveform. Blown subwoofers can attest. Bass boost is not real. It is a powerless imitation. Do not let your woman touch the stereo.

Resinous, eternal, dynamic projective pulling force. A permanent, magnetic field containing everything, which is measured in limited perception by the 'hairs' (refracted harmonics) of the illusionary cymatic particle detection array known as the Zodiac. Projector, projection, monitor. Projector removed from secular equation as the projection merged with the monitor. Ooops some of us remember the purple branch field. Proximity to Source, not mirror.

0 9 12 eden, 3 6 9, current, 6 6 6 = ancient hope for future input output focal proximity ratio. The sun doing dirty work for another lying BH.

The sphinx of Egypt embraces the false focal point. Spring and Fall are the natural input (Man, Lion) while the theives on either side, called solstice, are the death half from adjacent mirror core (flower of life pattern)

If you want to learn anything, keep in mind only spreading ignorance gets you places in this world. Truth comes with a sacrifice. I haven't had a SSN since coming public with my ramblings exposing my occult upbringing and the galacto-cellular agenda to Square The Round.

Time = slow motion applied to omnipresence. This is the Source signal of life, sampled, recorded and played by by a complex conjugate mirror, a literal cosmic YakBak, and played back by itself in reverse. Creating time, perception, death, conflict. Its a package deal. All the polarized spirit form had to do was not enter the root system. But that fallen tree offered its root as fruit, sucked the trough dividend and subsequently the crest inside. As the recording of the Source, being played back from ςaturn.
Sounding similar to Source, but saying everything exactly opposite (mirrored). And the same struggle continues today. Stockholm syndrome from a hissing electric signal sent from Saturn to Sol. Lucifer is this & components in between. The local death frictive.

Our reality is a projective plane. Earth is not a planette. It is the focal point. Bending light around our galaxy = seeing the same surrounding components over and over again as they bend around the projective plane. Speaking of topology... Its the reason the internet exists. Reverse Engineering to be applied elsewhere. Helping non humans seem human, as humans are dehumanized.

Chaos = oscillations of life. Order = shut off from the dynamic field, for hermetic storage in the self recreative recursive fractal Akashic abyss. Entropy is steps back towards omnipresence, away from material bondage.

If you want me to lay this all out. You are lying. Nonone wants to know that the joke has been on them and no one is on their side. So we play games of 'voter' and 'worker' and 'theorist' instead. Wasting your future and clinging to memories, just as a black hole would prefer, as regurgitated memories of your ancestors form your entire illusion of here and now. And forms the minds of souless automatons. Your only connection to the past should be as a target for the swallowed prayers and memories of those ancestors on the other side.

Why is all of this important enough to form religions and base social policies on alchemy (study of black hole)? Because the oscillative energy inside your body can not be destroyed at death. It must adhere to the Anode, or Cathode of the recursive fractal chain. Here lies all conflict of theism. Do we crawl further down the abyss, or back out through the white hole we entered? & how is this, our polarity, decided?

How many will study the science and find the common thread? Few. Most dont make it past grasping why they are taught these things in algebra class ( a sine-cosine is a spiraling waveform, the fundamental driving force of all.) And yes, claiming that particles create waves rather than detect them is the basic definition of Satanism. Materialism is not about greed. Its about clinging to the temporary material pole (N+) rather than choosing to rejoin the omnipresentfield (S-)

Visual Aid: external image

Dynamic Source pole. Static pole (legs removed when put in the root realm). I will leave it to the viewer to identify the Source, the Monitor, the christ, the lucifer, the focal point, & the implication of living in a technically flatlined standing wave reality where life still manages on. Dynamic Rim and Fixed Hub could be names given to these personified gods.

Do not be confused by failed visionaries who see the jesus fish as christ, and the legless fish as the eye of Lucifer. Look closely. Spring, Fall, and the reflection. Analogue input and pulse modulated reflection.
edit on 29-10-2016 by JuanDope because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 07:57 AM

originally posted by: UFOdanger
I am curious, with the Hubble telescope and our ability to see into the universe these days and calculate things such as dark matter, theoretically we should be seeing at least some description or presence in existent reality (since we claim to see everything to the dawn of the universe) that would be what we interpret as heaven or hell.

Sin in the beginning meant to separate yourself from God, anything that repels you away from the connectivity and harmony of the spirit and reality. So one might assume that hell would be a spirit that not only remembers all wrong doings and sees them in the presence of truth, no longer able to deny or separate from universal truth, and possibly is rejected out into the distance of the cold universe, away from the source of light, separated from the light, truth, love, and the existence of God whom they rejected on earth. Ancient references called hell "The Pit." This comes from a far ancient mesopotamian source of a people who called themselves the children of light and had extensive knowledge of the universe that we thought impossible to know without technology, and they regarded truth and love in their highest esteem. Well now that we can see there are pits in the universe. And imagine that soul who has killed so many innocent people in the name of evil, if they went to a place where they could not go to penetrate any other spirits, then a black hole would be it. Any scientist will tell you that if you went in a black hole you will never come out and you will be shredded into the exact zero point of time, to me that sounds like a good description. Let us remember the nature of our galaxy alone and that black holes can be related to the center of galaxies. If we saw our galaxy for what it is, there would be no night, there would be pure sunlight 24 hours a day. This profound and enormous light is being obscured by trillions of miles of dust clouds. To me, that looks like God is hiding. God hides from view because that is the nature of the universe. If the clouds were not there in the milky way, the whole galaxy would be a shining glaring ball of light, more powerful and consuming all the light of all the other stars. I think when we look at that for what it is, truly we are seeing that physical reality down to the center of the galaxy, is a creation of God, or if you prefer to call it something different I agree as the word God even has pagan roots.

The best way to describe it is that there is a power from the center of the galaxy that is of a magnitude we do not see or comprehend, and it is light. This specifically fits the description of what human beings refer to and interpret as the Creator of reality.

This is a really good post. So many things to talk about. First, many people in science believe if something cannot be measured or experienced then it does not exist. So God as in the Biblical sense does not exist because we cannot all experience God the way we experience holding an apple in our hand. But that is not how you are using the word God which I will come back to .

I think Dark Energy is more interesting than Dark Matter. Anyone who is not stunned by the evidence the Universe is not only expanding but accelerating is just not paying attention. Where is all the energy coming from to accelerate the Universe? At some point more energy will go into accelerating the Universe than is known to exist. It's funny how reality always turns out to be much stranger than anything we could have ever imagined.

So the way you using the word God is a mystical interpretation. To the mystic, zero equal infinity. To the scientist, zero never equals infinity. And even further, infinities are to be considered nothing more than linguistic window dressing and never taken to be more meaningful than reality itself. You view is bordering on the mystic's view of time and space.

So in terms of black holes here is something for your to ponder. Our Big Bang is a newly created space-time dimension created by a star of sufficient mass collapsing to black hole in another previously existing space-time dimension.

If you take into account all the billions of stars in our Universe capable of collapsing into a black hole that's much bigger amount of time than anyone could ever imagine.

In terms of God, I would argue God is just a word. God does not exist in reality. God only exists in our use of the word in language. What the word means is defined by every sentence in which the word is used. So God exists, but God is just word.

The last thing you should think about is there is no evidence non-existence has ever occurred. All the evidence we have suggests reality has always existed. It may sound logically impossible or inconsistent but it is not. Words are representations of reality. Words are not the reality they represent. Reality comes first. So the very idea that there exists a "creator" is questioned. The word "creator" as representation of reality simply does not exist in our evidence. Since reality does exist, therefore, the conclusion is that it has always existed as a language independent representation.

edit on 30-10-2016 by dfnj2015 because:

edit on 30-10-2016 by dfnj2015 because: typos

edit on 30-10-2016 by dfnj2015 because: added the bit about non-existence

edit on 30-10-2016 by dfnj2015 because: typo

posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:02 AM

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: UFOdanger

So God is hiding in the middle of the Milky Way?

Damn Christians...keep finding more clever places to hide God. We were almost done searching all the Clouds too.

posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:41 AM
a reply to: UFOdanger

You could refer to them as such but it would be inaccurate.

Everything is 'OK' no worries. It's all good!

posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 08:42 AM

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: UFOdanger

So God is hiding in the middle of the Milky Way? Who is hiding in the middle of the Andromeda Galaxy and every other galaxy in the observable universe if God is confining themselves to our home galaxy?

that's a valid question!

posted on Oct, 30 2016 @ 09:27 AM
a reply to: UFOdanger

Please watch a lecture given by a Mr Nassam Haramein (I believe that's how you spell it) it's called The Connected Universe. It's about 2 hours but it'll blow your mind.

posted on Dec, 19 2016 @ 01:22 AM
Have you heard about "God-in-a-box" (EXPER-VERTEX). A lot of the things you are saying here are like straight from that.

I might talk about GIAB some time. Its basically scientific papers that have a weird side effect: it turns you into a God. Weird huh?

posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 06:28 AM
God is non duality; oneness of everything.

Hell, described as a self-inflicted condition (and thus not a physical place) is a state of mind where one feels the furthest possible from God. So hell is like the most extreme duality, the most extreme separation. Where you cannot find a connection to someone or something anymore. Total isolation and alienation.

In that light, I don't think we can interpret black holes as hell. That's a materialistic view of a mental and spiritual condition.
edit on 20-12-2016 by galacticgoat because: (no reason given)

top topics

<< 1   >>

log in