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Frenzied Donald Trump Fans Are Turning on the Media -- And It's Getting Scary

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posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: JimmyJones63
I for one have no problem with this at all. In fact, I enjoy hearing about it. They deserve everything they get and much, much more. They are complicit in corruption, murder and rape and if they started getting whacked I would lose no sleep.


......you'd welcome members of the print media, who are being shouted at by Trump by - gasp! - daring to point out the gaping holes in his entire platform, his hypocrisy and his blatant sexism (not to mention that he either lies a lot or has a very short memory when it comes to recalling what he said), being murdered by unhinged idiots.
Right.
Fine.
Do you even understand the nature of the First Amendment?
I am a journalist. I know that Hillary Clinton is a flawed candidate. However, I also know (having done my research) that Hillary's flaws are snowflakes compared with the giant iceberg that represents Trump's flaws. I also know that if I was a US political journalist right now I'd be dreading covering his rallies, because sooner or later some deranged nutjob is going to do something very, very stupid.


You don't 'know' - you have an opinion, just like the rest of us. My opinion is that Hillary represents the very worst of humanity, with no equal in her utter disregard for life, liberty or justice.


Absolute rubbish. Are you claiming that Hillary Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Idi Amin? They represent the very worst of humanity. Good grief, are you just demented with hate or something?


Yes - she is worse, though her death count is not quite up there - yet. She'll get there though. My opinion of course.
As for your view of my opinion? Tough.


Given the fact that the list I just gave murdered millions of people, and Hillary Clinton has not, I think that I am correct in my diagnosis. You are demented with hatred for her, to the point where you make nonsensical statements that thoroughly deserve to be laughed at hysterically.


Like I said - tough.
Hillary's death count is already high. I hold her accountable for the deaths in Libya and the subsequent chaos with the refugee crisis. She'll bypass Hitler and Stalin once she has power. She is the very definition of evil.




posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 09:54 AM
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I'm going to quote Thomas Jefferson for reference.



"I deplore... the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed and the malignity, the vulgarity, and mendacious spirit of those who write for them... These ordure’s are rapidly depraving the public taste and lessening its relish for sound food. As vehicles of information and a curb on our functionaries, they have rendered themselves useless by forfeiting all title to belief... This has, in a great degree, been produced by the violence and malignity of party spirit."


He said this in 1814. Thomas Jefferson to Walter Jones, 2 January 1814



"I am... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents."

--Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799.


He said this in 1799.

Read more at Jefferson had Problems with Newspapers

The problem has been with us SINCE THE BEGINNING of this country. And yet, the same man who said these things made it clear that the solution COULD NOT BE to attempt to silence the Press, which of course has evolved into our Media.

Listen to him. Please listen to him.
edit on 16-10-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: JimmyJones63
I for one have no problem with this at all. In fact, I enjoy hearing about it. They deserve everything they get and much, much more. They are complicit in corruption, murder and rape and if they started getting whacked I would lose no sleep.


......you'd welcome members of the print media, who are being shouted at by Trump by - gasp! - daring to point out the gaping holes in his entire platform, his hypocrisy and his blatant sexism (not to mention that he either lies a lot or has a very short memory when it comes to recalling what he said), being murdered by unhinged idiots.
Right.
Fine.
Do you even understand the nature of the First Amendment?
I am a journalist. I know that Hillary Clinton is a flawed candidate. However, I also know (having done my research) that Hillary's flaws are snowflakes compared with the giant iceberg that represents Trump's flaws. I also know that if I was a US political journalist right now I'd be dreading covering his rallies, because sooner or later some deranged nutjob is going to do something very, very stupid.


You don't 'know' - you have an opinion, just like the rest of us. My opinion is that Hillary represents the very worst of humanity, with no equal in her utter disregard for life, liberty or justice.


Absolute rubbish. Are you claiming that Hillary Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Idi Amin? They represent the very worst of humanity. Good grief, are you just demented with hate or something?


Yes - she is worse, though her death count is not quite up there - yet. She'll get there though. My opinion of course.
As for your view of my opinion? Tough.


Given the fact that the list I just gave murdered millions of people, and Hillary Clinton has not, I think that I am correct in my diagnosis. You are demented with hatred for her, to the point where you make nonsensical statements that thoroughly deserve to be laughed at hysterically.


Like I said - tough.
Hillary's death count is already high. I hold her accountable for the deaths in Libya and the subsequent chaos with the refugee crisis. She'll bypass Hitler and Stalin once she has power. She is the very definition of evil.


(Facepalm) Please stop proving me right. All you're doing is making an idiot out of yourself. Oh wait, that ship has long since sailed.
Blame for Libya can be placed on many people, including Ghadaffi himself for acting like a blood-crazed lunatic in cracking down on the rebels. Then there's also Cameron, Obama, Berlusconi, Sarkozy, the rebels themselves... where do you want me to stop?
And no, she's not evil. You're being ridiculous yet again. As I said - par for the course.
edit on 16-10-2016 by AngryCymraeg because: Typo



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

There is not 'silence by force', though.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Gryphon66

There is not 'silence by force', though.


Come again?



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

"Wakka wakka."

(That's about all of a response your garbage post deserves. If you'd like something more thoughtful, post something more meaningful.)



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: JimmyJones63
I for one have no problem with this at all. In fact, I enjoy hearing about it. They deserve everything they get and much, much more. They are complicit in corruption, murder and rape and if they started getting whacked I would lose no sleep.


......you'd welcome members of the print media, who are being shouted at by Trump by - gasp! - daring to point out the gaping holes in his entire platform, his hypocrisy and his blatant sexism (not to mention that he either lies a lot or has a very short memory when it comes to recalling what he said), being murdered by unhinged idiots.
Right.
Fine.
Do you even understand the nature of the First Amendment?
I am a journalist. I know that Hillary Clinton is a flawed candidate. However, I also know (having done my research) that Hillary's flaws are snowflakes compared with the giant iceberg that represents Trump's flaws. I also know that if I was a US political journalist right now I'd be dreading covering his rallies, because sooner or later some deranged nutjob is going to do something very, very stupid.


You don't 'know' - you have an opinion, just like the rest of us. My opinion is that Hillary represents the very worst of humanity, with no equal in her utter disregard for life, liberty or justice.


Absolute rubbish. Are you claiming that Hillary Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Idi Amin? They represent the very worst of humanity. Good grief, are you just demented with hate or something?


Yes - she is worse, though her death count is not quite up there - yet. She'll get there though. My opinion of course.
As for your view of my opinion? Tough.


Given the fact that the list I just gave murdered millions of people, and Hillary Clinton has not, I think that I am correct in my diagnosis. You are demented with hatred for her, to the point where you make nonsensical statements that thoroughly deserve to be laughed at hysterically.


Like I said - tough.
Hillary's death count is already high. I hold her accountable for the deaths in Libya and the subsequent chaos with the refugee crisis. She'll bypass Hitler and Stalin once she has power. She is the very definition of evil.


(Facepalm)Please stop proving me right. All you're doing is making an idiot out of yourself. Oh wait, that ship has long since sailed.
Blame for Libya can be placed on many people, including Ghadaffi himself for acting like a blood-crazed lunatic in cracking down on the rebels. Then there's also Cameron, Obama, Berlusconi, Sarkozy, the rebels themselves... where do you want me to stop?
And no, she's not evil. You're being ridiculous yet again. As I said - par for the course.


I believe she is evil personified and I hold her accountable for the deaths in Libya. Her evil and utterly contemptible glee at her handy work was there for all to see. I can tell you that your opinion is one that I rank lower than most, so we're on opposite sides of world opinion. You'll just have to deal with it



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Gryphon66

There is not 'silence by force', though.


Come again?


The quote you posted:

"I am... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799.


There is no 'silence by force' so I am not sure what you are complaining about. The OP you posted also had no references to any force being used to silence the media.
edit on 16/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: JimmyJones63
I for one have no problem with this at all. In fact, I enjoy hearing about it. They deserve everything they get and much, much more. They are complicit in corruption, murder and rape and if they started getting whacked I would lose no sleep.


......you'd welcome members of the print media, who are being shouted at by Trump by - gasp! - daring to point out the gaping holes in his entire platform, his hypocrisy and his blatant sexism (not to mention that he either lies a lot or has a very short memory when it comes to recalling what he said), being murdered by unhinged idiots.
Right.
Fine.
Do you even understand the nature of the First Amendment?
I am a journalist. I know that Hillary Clinton is a flawed candidate. However, I also know (having done my research) that Hillary's flaws are snowflakes compared with the giant iceberg that represents Trump's flaws. I also know that if I was a US political journalist right now I'd be dreading covering his rallies, because sooner or later some deranged nutjob is going to do something very, very stupid.


You don't 'know' - you have an opinion, just like the rest of us. My opinion is that Hillary represents the very worst of humanity, with no equal in her utter disregard for life, liberty or justice.


Absolute rubbish. Are you claiming that Hillary Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Idi Amin? They represent the very worst of humanity. Good grief, are you just demented with hate or something?


Yes - she is worse, though her death count is not quite up there - yet. She'll get there though. My opinion of course.
As for your view of my opinion? Tough.


Given the fact that the list I just gave murdered millions of people, and Hillary Clinton has not, I think that I am correct in my diagnosis. You are demented with hatred for her, to the point where you make nonsensical statements that thoroughly deserve to be laughed at hysterically.


Like I said - tough.
Hillary's death count is already high. I hold her accountable for the deaths in Libya and the subsequent chaos with the refugee crisis. She'll bypass Hitler and Stalin once she has power. She is the very definition of evil.


(Facepalm)Please stop proving me right. All you're doing is making an idiot out of yourself. Oh wait, that ship has long since sailed.
Blame for Libya can be placed on many people, including Ghadaffi himself for acting like a blood-crazed lunatic in cracking down on the rebels. Then there's also Cameron, Obama, Berlusconi, Sarkozy, the rebels themselves... where do you want me to stop?
And no, she's not evil. You're being ridiculous yet again. As I said - par for the course.


I believe she is evil personified and I hold her accountable for the deaths in Libya. Her evil and utterly contemptible glee at her handy work was there for all to see. I can tell you that your opinion is one that I rank lower than most, so we're on opposite sides of world opinion. You'll just have to deal with it


Yup. Demented. I find this very hard to understand, still less that you find her worse than the list of scum that I gave. Hillary Clinton is not worse than Hitler. She doesn't come anywhere close to it and the analogy is in itself utterly ridiculous.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

I'm not complaining about anything, I'm pointing out the fact that these trumped up charges against "the media" are at least as old as our country and were called out by the third President of the United States and author of the Declaration of Independence.

Who acknowledged these things and STILL supported the unwavering freedom of the press found in the First Amendment.

The OP I posted demonstrated particularly the urge on the part of Trump and his worshippers to silence the Media by any means necessary. Many of your colleagues have made it VERY CLEAR on this thread that they are VERY HAPPY about the possibility of violence being used against those they perceive as their enemies.

The members of the press were assaulted. The Secret Service protected them until their own security could escort them from the building. You can keep up the deceitful undignified minimization you're attempting to sell, but the other Trump supporters IN THIS THREAD prove that you're full of crap.

As if that needed additional evidence.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Compare what Clinton has said with what Trump has said:



“I would bring back waterboarding and I'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding."

Republican Presidential Debate, ABC News 2016)


I guess Eeevil depends on perspective.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: JimmyJones63
I for one have no problem with this at all. In fact, I enjoy hearing about it. They deserve everything they get and much, much more. They are complicit in corruption, murder and rape and if they started getting whacked I would lose no sleep.


......you'd welcome members of the print media, who are being shouted at by Trump by - gasp! - daring to point out the gaping holes in his entire platform, his hypocrisy and his blatant sexism (not to mention that he either lies a lot or has a very short memory when it comes to recalling what he said), being murdered by unhinged idiots.
Right.
Fine.
Do you even understand the nature of the First Amendment?
I am a journalist. I know that Hillary Clinton is a flawed candidate. However, I also know (having done my research) that Hillary's flaws are snowflakes compared with the giant iceberg that represents Trump's flaws. I also know that if I was a US political journalist right now I'd be dreading covering his rallies, because sooner or later some deranged nutjob is going to do something very, very stupid.


You don't 'know' - you have an opinion, just like the rest of us. My opinion is that Hillary represents the very worst of humanity, with no equal in her utter disregard for life, liberty or justice.


Absolute rubbish. Are you claiming that Hillary Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Idi Amin? They represent the very worst of humanity. Good grief, are you just demented with hate or something?


Yes - she is worse, though her death count is not quite up there - yet. She'll get there though. My opinion of course.
As for your view of my opinion? Tough.


Given the fact that the list I just gave murdered millions of people, and Hillary Clinton has not, I think that I am correct in my diagnosis. You are demented with hatred for her, to the point where you make nonsensical statements that thoroughly deserve to be laughed at hysterically.


Like I said - tough.
Hillary's death count is already high. I hold her accountable for the deaths in Libya and the subsequent chaos with the refugee crisis. She'll bypass Hitler and Stalin once she has power. She is the very definition of evil.


(Facepalm)Please stop proving me right. All you're doing is making an idiot out of yourself. Oh wait, that ship has long since sailed.
Blame for Libya can be placed on many people, including Ghadaffi himself for acting like a blood-crazed lunatic in cracking down on the rebels. Then there's also Cameron, Obama, Berlusconi, Sarkozy, the rebels themselves... where do you want me to stop?
And no, she's not evil. You're being ridiculous yet again. As I said - par for the course.


I believe she is evil personified and I hold her accountable for the deaths in Libya. Her evil and utterly contemptible glee at her handy work was there for all to see. I can tell you that your opinion is one that I rank lower than most, so we're on opposite sides of world opinion. You'll just have to deal with it


Yup. Demented. I find this very hard to understand, still less that you find her worse than the list of scum that I gave. Hillary Clinton is not worse than Hitler. She doesn't come anywhere close to it and the analogy is in itself utterly ridiculous.


Maybe if you hadn't started off with your ridiculous claims of 'knowing' that Clinton is a 'snowflake' compared to Trump I could take you seriously. You know nothing of the sort, you're just providing your opinion.

Now, you're utterly boring (as usual), so i'll move on from your inane drivel.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:21 AM
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I think — I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me.

Republican Debate, CNN, 12/15/15


Nine Terrifying Things Donald Trump has Said



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm not complaining about anything, I'm pointing out the fact that these trumped up charges against "the media" are at least as old as our country and were called out by the third President of the United States and author of the Declaration of Independence.

Who acknowledged these things and STILL supported the unwavering freedom of the press found in the First Amendment.

The OP I posted demonstrated particularly the urge on the part of Trump and his worshippers to silence the Media by any means necessary. Many of your colleagues have made it VERY CLEAR on this thread that they are VERY HAPPY about the possibility of violence being used against those they perceive as their enemies.

The members of the press were assaulted. The Secret Service protected them until their own security could escort them from the building. You can keep up the deceitful undignified minimization you're attempting to sell, but the other Trump supporters IN THIS THREAD prove that you're full of crap.

As if that needed additional evidence.



Where does the OP demonstrate 'particularly' the 'urge on the part of Trump fans and his worshippers to silence the Media by any means necessary' ?

Sounds like more BS to me.
edit on 16/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Read it. Read the linked article. Watch the videos.

Try to comprehend English rather than listening to the voices in your head.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Read it. Read the linked article. Watch the videos.

Try to comprehend English rather than listening to the voices in your head.



I watched the videos - there is no 'any means necessary' or force. Taking that material and applying an 'any means necessary' accusation to 'Trump and his supporters' is dishonest BS.
edit on 16/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Read it. Read the linked article. Watch the videos.

Try to comprehend English rather than listening to the voices in your head.



I watched the videos - there is no 'any means necessary' or force. Taking that material and applying an 'any means necessary' accusation to 'Trump and his supporters' is dishonest BS.


The Secret Service didn't think so.

Neither did the private security in riot gear.

You're the only one trying to float BS here.



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

After reading the article, compare it to what happens when a Trump supporter is at a democrat rally, or what the left DOES to protest Trump rallies.

See for yourself who the violent ones are.

Ugly, bloody scenes in San Jose as protesters attack Trump supporters



The violence at Trump campaign events is only the latest example of what has become the defining feature of left-wing protest.

USA TODAY
edit on 16-10-2016 by GodEmperor because: content



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

What happened in San Jose was deplorable. Violence for political purposes is always wrong.

However ... from your source at WaPo.



Many of the protesters were peaceful. Some waved Mexican flags in an apparent response to Trump calling Mexican immigrants “rapists.” According to the San Jose Mercury News, many of the protesters were Latinos from East San Jose opposed to what they saw as racism from the GOP candidate.


These were a group of Latinos protesting Trump's nonsense. You can classify them as "the left" because most of them will have enough sense to vote against Trump, but their political classification is not the primary reason they were there. (And you know this.)

Now, the question someone looking at the truth has to ask themselves ... what happened prior to the condemnable violence in San Jose and Albuquerque (events which haven't been repeated)?




"I'll beat the crap out of you," he then mouthed. "Part of the problem ... is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore."




They used to treat them very, very rough, and when they protested once, they would not do it again so easily,” he said, before lamenting "we've become weak." "Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."


Source, Mashable, March 2016



"I'd like to punch him in the face," Trump said, remarking that a man disrupting his rally was escorted out with a smile on his face. "He's smiling, having a good time."

"In the old days," Trump added, protesters would be "carried out on stretchers." "We're not allowed to push back anymore," Trump said.


CNN February 23, 2016

And boy, did the Trump supporters "push back" ...


Trump supporters charged with assault for rally attacks - CBS March 21, 2016

Trump Supporters Pepper Spray Non-Violent Protesters - RedState, June 6, 2016

Does that give context for what happened in San Jose and Albuquerque? Nope. Violence for political purposes is always wrong.

Oh, but that was back in the spring and summer right? Right?

Wrong.

Trump Supporter Strikes Protester - NBC SEP 13 2016

Protester Attacked by Trump Supporter at Rally - October 14, 2016

So, GodEmp, stop pretending that the violence is all coming from one side or that Trump and his acolytes are innocent.

Violence for political purposes is always deplorable. I can say that easily.

Why can't you?


edit on 16-10-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted

edit on 16-10-2016 by Gryphon66 because: LInkage



posted on Oct, 16 2016 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Read it. Read the linked article. Watch the videos.

Try to comprehend English rather than listening to the voices in your head.



I watched the videos - there is no 'any means necessary' or force. Taking that material and applying an 'any means necessary' accusation to 'Trump and his supporters' is dishonest BS.


The Secret Service didn't think so.

Neither did the private security in riot gear.

You're the only one trying to float BS here.


Your attempted narrative has been debunked.
There is no evidence you have presented that 'Donald Trump and his fans' want to silence the media by any means necessary. If you actually have any evidence to support that wild conspiracy theory then you should post it, because right now you sound like you are sitting in your basement with a tin foil hat on.
edit on 16/10/2016 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)




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