Great Barrier Reef dead at 25 million

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Bloodydagger

So the British prisoners killed of the Barrier reef in just a century, amazing..

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: CovertAgenda

It survived for 25MY didnt it?

You sure know how to protect your borders to the outside, maybe its time you looked inwards?

If you find that racist, than i believe you are to privileged..

What kind of an idiot thinks that it's just Aussies warming the entire ocean which has caused the bleaching? You think we are all sitting there boiling our kettles and dumping it into the ocean just to kill off the coral?

Poor form mate. Really poor form. You attempted a cheap shot at us and it failed dismally.

Two words for you, in case you weren't paying attention the last few decades: "CLIMATE CHANGE".

And yes, ignoring the last 200 years of Australian history and claiming us to be "British Prisoners" is an absolute disgrace. Another cheap shot by a filthy troll.

originally posted by: Phage
Coral populations can actually recover quite quickly. But not if the factors which caused the damage are still there.
www.scientificamerican.com...

They can recover from bleaching quickly, not death:

The team has monitored 21 reefs in the Seychelles since 1994, taking a range of measurements that include the total number of plant-eating fish and the amount of nutrients reaching the reefs. The majority of these reefs—12 out of 21—were able to recover after bleaching in warming waters in 1998. The other nine became seaweed-covered ruins.

On the other hand, it's only a matter of time and attrition at the rate this is happening.

I want to note something else: mass bleaching events are a relatively new phenomenon.
They are not documented prior to the 1979, though local bleaching had happened prior to that.

a reply to: Greven

They can recover from bleaching quickly, not death:

Yes, I know.

But I have personal experience with coral reefs which had died. Not due to bleaching but due to siltation and "fertilization" from runoff. It took a couple of decades, but after the pollution had been greatly reduced, the coral has returned.

But what is happening in the Coral Sea and elsewhere is different. The analogy of recovery from a forest fire has been used. The trouble is, this fire is not burning out.

a reply to: Kryties

So point to the direction where i was wrong in my claims and i will say im sorry =)

a reply to: tikbalang

Y'all don't seem to understand that its not Autralians who killed it, it is ALL OF HUMANITY which did it.

a reply to: Noinden

And I repeat: Its a LIE! Fraud!

Less then 25 % of the GBR was bleached during the 2015/2016 El Nino event and only in the northern part of the reef.

climatism.wordpress.com...

www.theaustralian.com.au...

Dr Reichelt said maps accompanying the research had been misleading, exaggerating the ­impact. “I don’t know whether it was a deliberate sleight of hand or lack of geographic knowledge but it certainly suits the purpose of the people who sent it out,” he said. “This is a frightening enough story with the facts, you don’t need to dress them up. We don’t want to be seen as saying there is no ­problem out there but we do want people to understand there is a lot of the reef that is unscathed.” Dr Reichelt said there had been widespread misinterpretation of how much of the reef had died. “We’ve seen headlines stating that 93 per cent of the reef is prac­tic­ally dead,” he said. “We’ve also seen reports that 35 per cent, or even 50 per cent, of the entire reef is now gone. “However, based on our ­combined results so far, the overall mortality rate is 22 per cent — and about 85 per cent of that die-off has occurred in the far north ­between the tip of Cape York and just north of Lizard Island, 250km north of Cairns. Seventy-five per cent of the reef will come out in a few months time as recovered.” Former climate change commissioner Tim Flannery described diving on

You are all mea culping and torturing yourself over something that has NOT HAPPENED.

The Greens just wanted to do some fund raising!!!

Get a grip people

Tired of Control Freaks

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

And you are correct, SNOPES confirms false. I was more challenging that the Australians (of whom most were NOT convicts) are not a major contributor to global climate change. Purely based on population numbers

a reply to: tikbalang

(a) The reef is not yet dead. Dying is not dead.
(b) There is absolutely no evidence that it is Australia alone causing the dying to occur. Most nations can bare the blame.
(c) When you examine (a) and (b), one has to assume you are indeed wrong, and thus you will apologize, unless of course you are indeed trolling

a reply to: Noinden

I need to re-check how i damaged the great barrier reef from Scandinavia..
Maybe the pollution went with the magic currents of make belief and ended up in Aussie

a reply to: Noinden

and Snopes is a realiable source of information? Since when????

Here it is from the mouth of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority. The link I am providing has a link to a map that shows exactly where the damage occurred (north of Cairns) and that it affected about 600 km of the reef (the reef is just under 1500 km).

www.gbrmpa.gov.au...

Just because someone has their hand out for money, does that make them an authority?

Earlier, I supplied links showing this was the result of a Green Peace fund raiser. What more do you need? It must be true because I read it on the internet?

Tired of Control Freaks

a reply to: Noinden

Dr. Druid took a course in philosophy.. Fishing, pollution.. If i take garbage to the forest each day and leave it there.. what happens?

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

You need a prophecy to make it truthful.. otherwise its a conspiracy

a reply to: tikbalang

I don't need anything. Truth stands by itself.

Run along now - you need to go the holy church of pope Al Gore to make penance for killing the Great Barrier Reef. Don't forget your wallet.

Tired of Control Freaks

Perhaps you miss read what I wrote. I said YOU ARE CORRECT. What part of that requires you to argue? Are you perhaps looking for a brawl? If so, please indicate that you are. I am sure some one will join in.

a reply to: Noinden

I have re-read your post. I apologise. I read it wrong the first time. I thought you were saying that Snopes agrees that the reef is dead.

Again, my most sincere apologies.

Tired of Control Freaks

a reply to: tikbalang

Do you understand what sort of scientist I am? No?

You are correct I "took a course in Philosophy" it was called a Doctor of Philosophy in Synthetic Organic Chemistry. As a consequence it means I have a Bachelors of Science with honors in Chemistry (and biochemistry) which includes a number of papers up to and including honors (fourth year) in environmental chemistry.

Thus I understand about pollution, even if it is not my specialist area of Chemistry.

Again, if you'd tracked down the crumbs, you would know who I am

a reply to: Noinden

you would know who I am

DAvid Attenborough?

a reply to: tikbalang

Run along little man. Run along.

a reply to: Noinden

I never met someone who really implies in the words;" Do you know who i am ? " and in ATS..

a reply to: tikbalang

Neighbor, you really don't understand the nuances of English. If you'd followed the crumbs in replies over all these threads. You'd know who I am, and be able to confirm what I say. I'm not going to make it easy for you. Because you are so fun to wind up. Others here have gone and looked, its not that hard.

So lets return to the thread.

You can not prove the Australians killed the Great Barrier Reef. Its not dead. It is dying/very ill, but its not dead yet. You wanted to troll Australians, not make a statement on one of the natural wonders of the world.