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Is it now time to burn USA to the ground and rebuild it.

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posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 03:34 AM
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I am so sick of the political games in U.S. that I have decided this will be my last time I will watch and follow any U.S political election. From all the hate and lying going on I really do not care who wins. In the eyes around the world, the US government does NOT realize by allowing this "cat and dog fight" on national TV between Hillary and Trump only shows how ignorant the ENTIRE COUNTRY is.

The one thing that this election has shown is how divided the U.S. is and this shows its weakness. USA has not been a super power in over 10 years maybe closer to 20 years...and the enemies of the U.S (which is most of the world) know this as well. To invade USA would be very easy for Russia and China. It would be a walk in the park and I hope one day before I die that I see the White House in flames.

Right now I am concentrating on saving my money so I can pay the required fee (approx. $2500.00) that the US government wants from anyone who no longer wants to be a U.S. citizen. I cannot wait to give up my U.S. citizenship. I remember years ago when it was nothing more than walk into a government building proclaim your disloyalty to the U.S. government and renounce your citizenship, sign a couple of documents and turn in all U.S. identification and off you go......BUT not today.....USA wants to make it hard for anyone to leave the U.S. AND their money. I wonder why? Not too hard to figure out.

A war on U.S soil is coming and the streets will be flowing in American blood...... all because of YOU. Whether it be a civil war or a war with other nations attacking the U.S. The U.S. WILL deploy nuclear strikes on its own soil and its own people and then point to say someone else launched those nukes..... America is weak, lost and confused. It has become corrupt and it now needs to be cleansed and either the people will do it by dragging these criminals out of their office and hanging them on the next tree or another country will do it. How proud the corrupt USA government will be as you hold your blood soaked son or daughter as they lie dying on the streets.

So before it is too late ...... get the hell out of the USA otherwise..... you will be burying your loved ones.

[SNIP]



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posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 03:45 AM
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Why would anyone pay for you to do this? Sounds like a lot of hyperbole. Here's a good way to save money...cancel your cable and Internet so you can ignore the 24 hour political news cycle.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 03:47 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Pay it yourself stop begging.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 04:06 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

I was asked to move abroad once. I had become utterly deflated by my governments unwillingness to bow before the primacy of the peoples will, and a friend asked me to move off this crazy island nation, and live elsewhere. I replied thusly :

"As frustrating as I find the place and its government, I swore I would never leave until I had either fixed the place, or burned it to the ground".

You see, as much as I hate living in an undemocratic democracy, as much as I loathe being on rails I did not lay, people around me being controlled by the machinations of government, big media, and financial power blocs which do not have the will of the people as their guiding influence, I love the place. One does not leave the things one loves. One holds to them, and all the more desperately the worse things get, because for every person of decency, spirit, good nature and firm resolve who leaves, the place becomes even more unbearable than it was before.

Now, I live in the UK, which is a nation with problems, most of which originate within, not without, and with people from here, not those who arrive from other locations on the planet. However, the simple fact is, that I care about it too much to leave. If you care about your country, stay in it for Gods sake. I have never met a problem that could be solved by running away from it, and I believe that is because there are no such problems.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 04:22 AM
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Vote Hillary and it will happen next year !

Wow even Andorra might invade you .

Must be a #e state of affairs when your voting to get attacked ,

Trump = get back on top and get your #e together even tho he's an A-HOLE

HILARY = your screwed , she doesn't care about American people one bit.

But hey your party !
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posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 04:51 AM
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Where would you go that is any better? I'd like to see what people think is a better place to relocate after leaving the U.S.A. If there is such a place, would they want you to be a citizen there?



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 05:01 AM
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“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

Samuel Adams said that and it still holds true today. If you're not going to stay and fight to help us fix it...get the hell out and don't come back.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 05:02 AM
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a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Never been to Yorkshire have you?
Mind you I come from t'other side of the hill it took me 10 years for the Yorkshire folk to accept me.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 05:20 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

Samuel Adams said that and it still holds true today. If you're not going to stay and fight to help us fix it...get the hell out and don't come back.


Samuel ADAMS a slave owner and politician who fought to keep slavery and the original party founder of the Democratic party! Whoever listens to this idiot (Adams) deserves what they have coming!

No worries I will and so are many more leaving. Thank God.

That is one world wide problem that cause division...... BEING A PATRIOT TO A CORRUPT SYSTEM.

You are the problem and you can not see it because you are to close and emotional to the chaos.

I use to think like you, I served in the U.S. military for many years in a COMBAT MOS and until I travelled the world, lived in many countries, and was able to see the truth for what it truly is..... nothing but greed and lies...... that is what U.S.A has become and NOW we get to see its fall.
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posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 05:38 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Since you've decided to give up, I really don't care what excuse you have. I am a patriot to The People, the idea of America, not to a corrupt government. I hate the system as badly as anyone, but I intend to fix it, not run from it.
Please. GO. At least I can say I didn't run away from the problem.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Since you've decided to give up, I really don't care what excuse you have. I am a patriot to The People, the idea of America, not to a corrupt government. I hate the system as badly as anyone, but I intend to fix it, not run from it.
Please. GO. At least I can say I didn't run away from the problem.


A problem YOU can NOT fix. A problem the voters can NOT fix.

A problem the POTUS will never fix ... yet you dream on.

Maybe it is time you step out of dreamland and see USA for what it really is..... a fallen and chaotic country run by evil people (MORE THAN ONE) deeply embedded within our government that will NEVER be overthrown without first overthrowing the entire United States.

You have been hypnotized by US politicians and its leaders. I bet if the U.S. government took your children, home, food, money and put you on the streets you would change your mind in a single heart beat.


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posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64


Well Said!!


If you can not, or will not, help to fix the problems, you are part of the problem. There are times when it does look impossible. Then I recall history when times were darker. My parents lived through just such a time. The Great Depression/WWII/the Cold War. If they can deal with that, I can deal with this.

Yet here we are. ...and tomorrow it'll still be here. Bad times come. Bad time go. As do good times. Bad times? You fix what's broken. If you aren't going to help? Shut the hell up, and stay out of the way, while some of us attempt to fix it. Good times? Keep doing what's working, obviously. But never forget that there might be a better way to make things even better.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 06:18 AM
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I seem to remember that a lot of the founding fathers almost expected a revolution every 20 years or so? was years ago I heard it and i'm from where you don't listen too since 1776


The problem really is that theres monarchy sneaking in through the back door, the kennedys, the bush's, the clintion's all trying to make its way in via the side door even if they can't setup as king and queen they can keep popping new family members on the throne every 2 terms.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

" I have never met a problem that could be solved by running away from it, and I believe that is because there are no such problems" - Said no man ever being chased by a wild animal



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: GreenGunther


Anyone who runs from a wild animal as opposed to fighting it has no wits.

Wild animals, by and large, are much faster than we are. We cannot generally out run them.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

We can run up trees, use obstacles etc.
Yes, it's always better to charge an animal head-on when it starts charging, but when the chase is on, it's on



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: seagull

Exactly. A lot of us don't like our current system, including myself. But I don't want to burn it down; I want to improve it. I don't want to destroy our government; I want it to serve all citizens fairly, be efficient, stop meddling in other countries, and upgrade our infrastructure into a high tech utopia.


No matter how "bad" things appear, I just have to look at my own recent ancestors to see how much worse it once was. Things have been getting better with every generation! It's amazing that we can lounge and talk with complete strangers from all over the world in real time. Our health care is exponentially better than it ever was, we've got rovers on Mars (!!!), and we're probably in the most peaceful period in recorded history. Anyone with an internet connection can instantly take up lessons in most foreign languages, study any religion or philosophy, or even take virtual tours of various landmarks, museums, and more.

I think people complain purely out of pessimism. But anyone with a positive outlook can see that we're living in an amazing era. We can obviously improve things, but there's absolutely no need to burn it down or restart anything.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: Maxatoria
I seem to remember that a lot of the founding fathers almost expected a revolution every 20 years or so?was years ago I heard it and i'm from where you don't listen too since 1776


The problem really is that theres monarchy sneaking in through the back door, the kennedys, the bush's, the clintion's all trying to make its way in via the side door even if they can't setup as king and queen they can keep popping new family members on the throne every 2 terms.

Ummm, does that include the Whiskey Rebellion, the same rebellion that President George Washington violently put down? I find it hard to believe that the Founders wanted more revolutions after the US Constitution was adopted.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

I'd imagine that like most things once you have your feet under the table of power things change a lot.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Where do you get the $$ figure and information from? Just renounce your citizenship and split. Like in the Vietnam war. Send a letter and split!..

But hey...Ill take the $2500! Never in my life have I ever, ever heard of PAYING the US to leave..Well its your rant...but I think your buying some crap from someone....I'd swim to Canada...or walk across at Niagara Falls.

If youre SERIOUS? Just split.....
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