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Trumps sales pitch, why I believe his accusers

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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: tigertatzen

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: ColaTesla

Surprised that hasn't been a thread yet... paparazzi is all anyone really cares about these days, as evidenced across Amerika.


Damned if he/she/it didn't actually turn right around and make a thread about it. Le sigh. Thank you, for contributing to the quality of our forums.


"it" ?

With those eyebrows you are not in a position to be calling people "It".....




posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: ColaTesla

I wouldn't mind looking down on those eyebrows...just sayin.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan




It's possible, he often blusters his way through life inflating his own ego. Of course, his idea of bluster in this case is to brag about sexually assaulting people. Maybe that's all it was and the guy really just doesn't know any better. Actual accusers are starting to show up now though and say that yes, Trump really does these things. That video has nothing to do with why I believe them. I believe them because of what Trump has said in response to their claims.


To flat-out deny them seems to be the only course of action for anyone accused in such a way. According to their own stories, the reason they came forward was because, as they say, Trump lied decades after the fact, and not because he committed any unwanted kissing.

Maybe Trump may have tried to kiss women without their written or verbal consent, but then again, I'm not aware weather or not unwanted kissing is a crime in any state.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

He's a playboy billionaire hustler. No shocker the bulk of this paparazzi stuff.

It's the feigned 'shock' and 'outrage' that is the Big Story:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Oh, part of the Big Story er the Big Show is how the Criminal Media + Political Machinery is all out paparazzi now (which makes the feigned shock even more absurd)...


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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

And you also believe pedo Mohammad is prophet correct?

Very wise.

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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope




Maybe Trump may have tried to kiss women without their written or verbal consent, but then again, I'm not aware weather or not unwanted kissing is a crime in any state.



Sexual assault is any unwanted sexual contact, including unwanted intercourse (rape), unwanted touching, and unwanted kissing. It is a crime of violence, power and control in which sex is used as the weapon. Sexual assault can take the form of rape, child molestation, incest or sexual harassment.
www.wrcnrv.org...



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
To flat-out deny them seems to be the only course of action for anyone accused in such a way. According to their own stories, the reason they came forward was because, as they say, Trump lied decades after the fact, and not because he committed any unwanted kissing.

Maybe Trump may have tried to kiss women without their written or verbal consent, but then again, I'm not aware weather or not unwanted kissing is a crime in any state.


It's not that he's denying it, it's obvious he's going to deny. It's how he's choosing to deny. He's using the same pattern to deny, as he uses for other subjects where we've later learned he was full of # or lying. Trumps speech is fairly simple, he has his marketing speech patterns and his honest patterns. Basically, he's a really really bad liar. He's speaking in the way he does when he's lying, not in the way he does when he's telling the truth.

As far as unwanted kissing goes, I'm pretty sure it qualifies as sexual assault in all 50 states. If you use your tongue and do something like shove it in their mouth, it counts as penetration and is good for a rape charge in some.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan
It really is that simple Aaza. Trump is a carnival barker, a side show huckster aiming at the big time. He will say whatever comes to mind to push his product, himself. Ever see the movie Glengarry Glen Ross? Excellent depiction of hardcore salesmen and the convoluted yarns they will spin to 'sucker' the unwary into buying their product with amazing gifts of gab.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:54 PM
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Trump Accuser Rachel Crooks Is LYING According To Family Friend


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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: Mizgy
a reply to: Aazadan

And you also believe pedo Mohammad is prophet correct?

Very wise.


Hmm? What does my opinion on Islam have to do with anything? But for the record I'm not a Muslim. I'm not anything technically, but I'm closest to Buddhism simply because I like their teachings as a way to live rather than any belief in karma and reincarnation. In short, I don't believe in any prophets.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 03:58 PM
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Thanks for Correcting The Record.

You are doing the ruling elites/globalists a great service.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: gmoneystunt

How does Miss Bumsteen know that Miss Crooks is lying about Mr. Trump, because she knows her family?

Just some Trumpette trying to ride on the coattails of someone else by association.

Political limbo games. Let's see how low Trumpette can go to defend their messiah.


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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: gmoneystunt

How does Miss Bumsteen know that Miss Crooks is lying about Mr. Trump, because she knows her family?

Just some Trumpette trying to ride on the coattails of someone else by association.

Political limbo games. Let's see how low Trumpette can go to defend their messiah.

Try reading the last quote from Burnstein (bottom of second picture). "Her story today doesn't match the same story she told 11 years ago"



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: windword




b)Sexual Assault.—Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) commits a sexual act upon another person by—
(A) threatening or placing that other person in fear;
(B) causing bodily harm to that other person;
(C) making a fraudulent representation that the sexual act serves a professional purpose; or
(D) inducing a belief by any artifice, pretense, or concealment that the person is another person;

(2) commits a sexual act upon another person when the person knows or reasonably should know that the other person is asleep, unconscious, or otherwise unaware that the sexual act is occurring; or

(3) commits a sexual act upon another person when the other person is incapable of consenting to the sexual act due to—
(A) impairment by any drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance, and that condition is known or reasonably should be known by the person; or
(B) a mental disease or defect, or physical disability, and that condition is known or reasonably should be known by the person;
is guilty of sexual assault and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

(c)Aggravated Sexual Contact.—
Any person subject to this chapter who commits or causes sexual contact upon or by another person, if to do so would violate subsection (a) (rape) had the sexual contact been a sexual act, is guilty of aggravated sexual contact and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

(d)Abusive Sexual Contact.—
Any person subject to this chapter who commits or causes sexual contact upon or by another person, if to do so would violate subsection (b) (sexual assault) had the sexual contact been a sexual act, is guilty of abusive sexual contact and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

(e)Proof of Threat.—
In a prosecution under this section, in proving that a person made a threat, it need not be proven that the person actually intended to carry out the threat or had the ability to carry out the threat.

(f)Defenses.—
An accused may raise any applicable defenses available under this chapter or the Rules for Court-Martial. Marriage is not a defense for any conduct in issue in any prosecution under this section.

(g)Definitions.—In this section:
(1)Sexual act.—The term “sexual act” means—
(A) contact between the penis and the vulva or anus or mouth, and for purposes of this subparagraph contact involving the penis occurs upon penetration, however slight; or
(B) the penetration, however slight, of the vulva or anus or mouth, of another by any part of the body or by any object, with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, or degrade any person or to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.
(2)Sexual contact.—The term “sexual contact” means—
(A) touching, or causing another person to touch, either directly or through the clothing, the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person, with an intent to abuse, humiliate, or degrade any person; or
(B) any touching, or causing another person to touch, either directly or through the clothing, any body part of any person, if done with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.
Touching may be accomplished by any part of the body.
(3)Bodily harm.—
The term “bodily harm” means any offensive touching of another, however slight, including any nonconsensual sexual act or nonconsensual sexual contact.
(4)Grievous bodily harm.—
The term “grievous bodily harm” means serious bodily injury. It includes fractured or dislocated bones, deep cuts, torn members of the body, serious damage to internal organs, and other severe bodily injuries. It does not include minor injuries such as a black eye or a bloody nose.
(5)Force.—The term “force” means—
(A) the use of a weapon;
(B) the use of such physical strength or violence as is sufficient to overcome, restrain, or injure a person; or
(C) inflicting physical harm sufficient to coerce or compel submission by the victim.
(6)Unlawful force.—
The term “unlawful force” means an act of force done without legal justification or excuse.
(7)Threatening or placing that other person in fear.—
The term “threatening or placing that other person in fear” means a communication or action that is of sufficient consequence to cause a reasonable fear that non-compliance will result in the victim or another person being subjected to the wrongful action contemplated by the communication or action.

(8)Consent.—
(A) The term “consent” means a freely given agreement to the conduct at issue by a competent person. An expression of lack of consent through words or conduct means there is no consent. Lack of verbal or physical resistance or submission resulting from the use of force, threat of force, or placing another person in fear does not constitute consent. A current or previous dating or social or sexual relationship by itself or the manner of dress of the person involved with the accused in the conduct at issue shall not constitute consent.
(B) A sleeping, unconscious, or incompetent person cannot consent. A person cannot consent to force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm or to being rendered unconscious. A person cannot consent while under threat or in fear or under the circumstances described in subparagraph (C) or (D) of subsection (b)(1).
(C) Lack of consent may be inferred based on the circumstances of the offense. All the surrounding circumstances are to be considered in determining whether a person gave consent, or whether a person did not resist or ceased to resist only because of another person’s actions.


10 U.S. Code § 920 - Art. 120. Rape and sexual assault generally



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: gmoneystunt

Just because she didn't share her sexual assault experience with this, so called family acquatance, doesn't mean that Miss Crook is lying today. Not everyone is comfortable sharing their sexual assault experiences, like Donald Trump is!



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope


(B) any touching, or causing another person to touch, either directly or through the clothing, any body part of any person, if done with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.
Touching may be accomplished by any part of the body.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Just posted that not two above.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: gmoneystunt

Just because she didn't share her sexual assault experience with this, so called family acquatance, doesn't mean that Miss Crook is lying today. Not everyone is comfortable sharing their sexual assault experiences, like Donald Trump is!


What is your point? It also does not mean Miss Crook is telling the truth. Odd timing of these accusers to come out, don't you think?



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

You mean the post I replied to?



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope




b)Sexual Assault.—Any person subject to this chapter who—.......


You failed to define Sexual Assault


Sexual assault refers to an assault of a sexual nature on another person. It can include a wide range of unwanted sexual contact such as rape, forced vaginal, anal or oral penetration, forced sexual intercourse, inappropriate touching, forced kissing, child molestation ,exhibitionism, voyeurism, obscene phone calls torture of a victim in a sexual manner etc. The actor causes submission of the victim by means that is reasonably calculated to cause submission against the victim's will. Definitions of offences are primarily governed by state criminal laws, which vary by state. It is generally a felony.


Sexual Assault Law & Legal Definition

Same legal outlet as your link.....


Forced kissing is a sex crime.




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