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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: StallionDuck

I didn't say "hillbilly" - you said it.

I said "trash". Like, trailer trash. Like the people who go on Jerry Springer and make a trashy spectacle of themselves all for the glory of their "fifteen minutes of fame" --- you know what the Springer show pays them?

The women get a free makeover, and the men get a carton of cigarettes. I called them once just to ask if they were interested in actual actors. They aren't. They want trash who are impressed by a makeover and a carton of cigarettes.

You don't have to believe me if you don't want to. I'm just glad I don't have to hang out with people like you.


Apparently you don't understand metaphors. It's the same thing. White Trash... Hillbilly... Cracker... These are all offensive and mean pretty much the same thing. I take offence to you calling me "trash". ..and not you equate me to a Springer contestant? Where I'm from, you'd get punched in the face for that, be it woman or man. Didn't think a lady spoke like that!


Oh my... The hypocrisy is YUGE with you.




posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Words have never hurt anyone, but those outraged by words have.

This sentence negates itself.
We've discussed this before. WORDS ARE HURTFUL. If they weren't then people wouldn't become enraged (or outraged) and hurt others BECAUSE OF THOSE WORDS.

Your pseudo-intellect leaves a lot to be desired.


Insulting people whilst talking about how we shouldn't insult people.

I can only assume you are being hypocritical to teach us verisimilitude.
That's the problem with this cult of PC, it looks alright on the surface but falls apart quickly.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Thanks. Glad you understand that.
Science has proven that words hurt others.
Forgive me if they are my favorite tools that I wield cautiously and keep under control. I don't have to grab people by their genitalia to make my points.

I know you're jealous, because you try hard to come across as a sage, a philosopher. But your declarations belie your true self. Tell us about you (besides the part that you think you're all that and so superior).



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

I know, it's weird, isn't it?

Experience is the best teacher. I'm just letting it all out here. Without using vulgarities!



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: StallionDuck

And yet I'm not using vulgarities!
You got your feelings hurt?

Sorry. Show me the side of you that I can respect, please.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: StallionDuck

Got your chain yanked, did ya?

Soft spoken, are ya?

If it quacks like a duck and all that....stop quacking. You're embarrassing yourself.


Highly unlikely. I see why you're trying to do there. Not you're just being childish.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Necrobile

Thanks you've answered my question, unfortunately it IS locker room banter for some.

Still does not make it ok.

Scary



Men do say all kinds of things about what they'd like to do to women.

The difference between real "locker room talk" and what Trump said are:

1) He revealed a real-world attempt to wreck a married woman's home
2) His talk about using his power to intrude upon the personal space of women in general is consistent with the public record





Now see... THIS, this right here makes more sense. WAY more sense than what the OP was pointing out. This I will agree with.

Still... These conversations happen and it's no uncommon. Do I agree with them? No. But &*^% happens. Personally I don't feel it affects his ability to be PoTUS.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: StallionDuck

I've made my point, haven't I?
Words. Words.

Language is the one thing humans have that has allowed us to build this circus we call a 'civilization.' Without language, we would be living more like our cousin primates do.

Don't ever think that words don't hurt. There's a time and place for them. This is the time and place. I'm making a point.

edit on 10/13/2016 by BuzzyWigs because: grammar



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

How I come off to you is no concern to me.

Science has proven nothing of the sort.

You're a self-proclaimed English expert; since when has anyone admitted guilt in the second-person narrative?



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
Oh my! We just don't talk like that!

Positively White Victorian.

I guess no one has ever heard a rap gangsta tune.







Does that make Rappers 'Trailer Trash'...or 'Hillbillies'?


I choked on my coffee a little!!!



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: IAMTAT

Commonly known as Ghetto Trash.



Now THAT's racist.

What about those true colors again?


This is your open mic. Busted!



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
I know, it's weird, isn't it?

Experience is the best teacher. I'm just letting it all out here. Without using vulgarities!


A lot of what you said has been very vulgar.

Of course that's probably just because I find self-righteousness a little on the nose. But I support your right to say anything, even if it is just to say how sophisticated you are.

To misquote Margaret Thatcher, "Being Sophisticated is a lot like being a lady, if you have to tell people you are, you aren't"



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: IAMTAT

LOL!! I'm being more myself than I ever have been on here, as a matter of fact.

I'm an elitist intellectual snob, who is offended by crass and low-life behavior or talk. I prefer intelligent, thoughtful discourse, and I write in an academic style when I'm actually "writing".

On here I try to meet you all where you are, and get along. Or at least let you all know what I find to be ridiculous, offensive, and banal. What comes across as venal or vapid. To point out ill-conceived thinking and erroneous statements like "words never hurt anyone, but those outraged have hurt others."

Thanks for liking me anyway. It's nice.


Of course I still like you...always have.
For better or worse, ALL of us are more than our words on any given day; You, Me,...Even Trump.
BTW: I see you're in mourning. I'm sorry for your loss.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: veracity

People say and do all kinds of things. Personally, I'm not thrilled with his choice of language but it's not a deal breaker, some people speak with more class than others. However, I have to draw the line at bragging about sexual assault. Either he's guilty of it, or he wants to do it and neither is ok. That has nothing to do with his choice of words either, if he was using regular words it would be the same thing. He's bragging about sexually assaulting people, and that goes from locker room talk which generally involves people talking up how desired they are, and discussing consensual actions to him talking about something else entirely.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Psychology Today:
Why Words Can Hurt at Least as Much as Sticks and Stones



With the yin and yang of digital life in mind, it seems relevant to explore what science knows about emotional pain and its connection to the physical kind.

Language has always mirrored the connection between the two; we suffer from "broken hearts" as well as bones, and speak of "bruised feelings" along with toes. This all seems intuitively right because we recognize the common basis of the pain we experience, whether a throbbing headache or the pain of missing someone so much that you ache.


Now, LesMis, read this next part carefully:


Is there anyone out there who actually believes the line, “Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never harm me”? I somehow doubt it, but now science has a bead on the literal harm that words inflict.

This auther in Psychology Today would be amazed that there are people like you who do actually believe the line.

So, here we go:


[point #3 of 6] Words hurt just like sticks and stones.

We all know this, despite the adage. When I was writing Mean Mothers, women who were victims of “just” verbal abuse often commented that they wished they’d been hit so that “their wounds and scars would show.”

In a series of studies, Martin Teicher M.D., Ph.D. and others have shown that there are physical and emotional consequences of “just” verbal abuse. In one study, the researchers found that the effects of parental verbal aggression were comparable to “those associated witnessing domestic violence or nonfamilial sexual abuse.”

In fact, verbal aggression produced larger effects than familial physical abuse. There’s evidence too that exposure to verbal abuse in childhood actually alters the structure of the brain.

That was also borne out in another study by Dr. Teicher and his colleagues called Hurtful Words. What the researchers found was that especially during the middle school years, when the brain is actively developing, exposure to peer bullying and verbal abuse caused changes to the white matter in the brain.

Just because we can’t see the wounds doesn’t mean they aren’t literally and physically there.


Now, since we are all presumably at least adolescents, it is appropriate to be able to talk about this.
I'm done with the condescending words because I don't really want to hurt any of you.

Please make a mental note of how you felt, viscerally felt, when you read my snobbish words. You say it doesn't concern you, but yet you continue to reply with outspoken insistence that it 'doesn't effect you.' Clearly, it does.
Effectively, it does.

And now, I'll leave you all to your unfriendly banter. I've had enough...



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: StallionDuck

And yet I'm not using vulgarities!
You got your feelings hurt?

Sorry. Show me the side of you that I can respect, please.


Don't give yourself credit too quickly... I was being facetious.

You see, hypocrites are the worst kind of person. There is so much wrong with that.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Thanks. And yes, I am mourning. I am mourning the loss of what was once a brilliant country, which is now spiralling into a sad demise.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: IAMTAT

Thanks. And yes, I am mourning. I am mourning the loss of what was once a brilliant country, which is now spiralling into a sad demise.

We can agree. It was a once brilliant country. I see it dying as well...and it hurts to think that our children will never know it as we have.

Perhaps, however, it is stronger than even we believe. Have faith.



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:22 AM
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When people say they have heard much much worse... I wonder what the hell is worse then a guy bragging how he can just grab a girl by her p***y? What are people hearing that's worse than blatant sexual assault privileges?

Billy Bush... what he said is normal for a total douche bag.

Trump... What he said is normal for a rapist.
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posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: veracity




if one of my friends talked like that, I would no longer be thier friend. I've got morals. Also, if I ever overheard that crap at the bar or in the locker room I would call them out. I would call them a jerk. I guess there are many jerks in this world


And apparently some very sheltered, judgmental people. I've heard just as much, if not more "locker room humor" from women as men. It happens and your friends probably don't include you in the banter, because they know you're prudish and overly self righteous.
So, fine, go ahead, judge someone on what they say vs what they have done. Joking around is so much worse than overthrowing countries or smuggling weapons to terrorists, right?
This is why we are in the shape we are. Too many people with their faux outrage, simply over someone's choice of words and completely clueless about the real evil that's been going on.
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